SP nerfed. We were lied to.

just so you guys know you probably won't hear from a comm rep for another 2 days because it is the weekend they have a life and family to keep them occupied outside of work and on a weekend so if you want an answer wait till Monday.

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Originally Posted by Honz

It seems people are underestimating the power of having no surplus.

Before you whiners post do the math first.

Pre-1.18 you got roughly 80k SP per week before rank 1 fatigue (-10%) another 80k till rank 2 (-20%) and so on.

One leve reset in a fully effective r40s leve party will yield around 120k per run (each full run takes about 4 hours) if everyone in the party has 8 leves (only the good ones) to share. Most effective grind parties were round 20-25k sp/hr. Raptor parties were around 30k (45-50k if it was a 3-man party with archer).

In the current system a full set of leves without using GA is around 40k. Dungeons are giving ungodly amounts of sp an hour 35-40k per run if you're just farming SP and treasure (which takes about 35 mins with people of appropriate level).

Pre-1.18 it was roughly 30k/hr failing leves every reset. Not to mention it was a pain to gather people with correct leves unless you were in a static.

Post-1.18 its also roughly 30k/hr, but there is no fatigue.

I'm ranking up an alt now playing as Lnc, already rank 38 since the patch was released.

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I have mentioned this before. I was getting more SP/hour with Behest while fatigued than I do now without fatigue.

Abriael, darling, you don't know anything about me! How could you be so presumptious to make such a wild conclusion? Please, I urge you to go back to school instead of the life you're so eager to brag about.

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Originally Posted by Kensei

I have mentioned this before. I was getting more SP/hour with Behest while fatigued than I do now without fatigue.

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Yeah right.. only content in the Game are Failing Leve-links and Behest. lol

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Who cares about leves. He said ranking up wouldn't be nerfed and then he nerfed it. Thus he lied.

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Mommymommy,
the other kid took my toys away.

Grow up. They can do with this game, your account,
and all your characters what they want, and when they want.

I think an "adjustment" to the leveling speed was absolutely adequate.
And if he "lied" (which he didn't, that's only the way you chose to interprete his words),
this at least spared us the forum drama before the patch.

It's hard enough to stand the drama after.

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Originally Posted by CatchaFire420

Exactly, the only thing that stays the same is change. Deal with it, use your head and for god's sake quit complaining, it would be one thing if someone killed your dog, but they killed your idea of what exploit vs. balanced game play we all used to gain massive SP before was. The SP has merely been redistributed, it's our job to find where.

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Then why did he make a letter saying ranking up would remain unaffected? It is now unquestionably slower so it was nerfed. That's my issue. Had he not went out of his way to lie like that I wouldn't be saying anything.

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Originally Posted by Kensei

I have mentioned this before. I was getting more SP/hour with Behest while fatigued than I do now without fatigue.

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That's why you might want to try doing something ELSE than behest, considering that there are a TON of ways of ranking, and encouraging people to mindlessly do the same thing over and over for hours on end isn't exactly the true definition of quality game development.

Your equation Nerfing behest = nerfing ranking up simply doesn't hold water.

You're the one that refuses doing anything else, hence you're the one that's nerfing his own progression.

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Originally Posted by Kensei

Then why did he make a letter saying ranking up would remain unaffected?

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Because it is. Actually, considering all the new ways to rank up, it's improved.

removing focus from behest =\= nerfing ranking up.

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Then why did he make a letter saying ranking up would remain unaffected? It is now unquestionably slower so it was nerfed. That's my issue. Had he not went out of his way to lie like that I wouldn't be saying anything.

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Perhaps. But then you'd have whined just as much before the patch. -.-/

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Originally Posted by Abriael

That's why you might want to try doing something ELSE than behest, considering that there are a TON of ways of ranking, and encouraging people to mindlessly do the same thing over and over for hours on end isn't exactly the true definition of quality game development.

Your equation Nerfing behest = nerfing ranking up simply doesn't hold water.

You're the one that refuses doing anything else, hence you're the one that's nerfing his own progression.



Because it is. Actually, considering all the new ways to rank up, it's improved.

removing focus from behest =\= nerfing ranking up.

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^ Nothing else i could say. 100% correct.

short history lesson on Behest:
long long time ago it was 18 member partys and was only 1x every hour. Then came the party restructuring where the party sizes were lowered from 18 to 8, with this drastic drop in party size fewer people could participate in camp Behest's. So what did they do to aid in this made it every 30 minutes. So what do the players of Behest do camp the camps for that behest every 30 min those same 8 selfish behest party grinders, leaving the other 20 others in the camp lonely to not be able to participate in Behest. So then came patch 1.18 where they gave players a cooldown timer of 1 hour to do a behest. giving those other lonely souls a chance to get into a behest for once so that those selfish 8 people have to wait for their turn! BUT wait there is more, they added an sp bonus to all camp behest's and the more they are done and won the less that sp bonus will become. So those selfish or lonely behester's start to wander and frequent the less used behest camps, and all is happy, the end!
I really hope people will understand the moral of my story -.-....