RP shout ads are obstructive to chat and gameplay

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Originally Posted by Gordita

Projecting much? You literally have done nothing but mock and slander people with your every comment here. But sure go off... Someone disrespects me and I stand up for myself, now I'm the bad guy? Go back to your cave little troll, come back when you have something to say that isn't slander, thanks

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AlexiaD aka Stormpeaks is a known troll and flame fanner. Just ignore them. They contribute nothing to anything

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Originally Posted by Solakor

AlexiaD aka Stormpeaks is a known troll and flame fanner. Just ignore them. They contribute nothing to anything

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Funny how one person stopped saying "oh the drama" and got banned. Now another has started. Alt account to circumvent a ban to continue the harassment eh. Based. Thanks for the lore lmao

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Originally Posted by Padudu

Bruh she made her point pretty clear, she's saying that shout ads have never drowned out actual gameplay content because actual gameplay content doesn't ever really utilize the shout chat in main cities, making your argument that they drown out any sort of gameplay pointless. The truth is that people don't utilize shout chat other than to use it for ads or banter, so you're really not missing out on anything at all gameplay wise lol. The truth is if you want gameplay, you're going to utilize the dozen and more discords suited for it, not shout chat in the cities.

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Last I checked FFXIV doesn't have discord integration, excusing senseless obstruction and spam based on the suggestion that a user should utilize a second device to play the game isn't valid, sorry. Things still get relayed in the game in linkshells, nn, FC, shout, etc. But if venue ads flood the chat, then these things can be missed. This is common sense. As I said before, I've scrolled up thru these venue ads to see stuff I've missed several times.. missed because of the chat flooding. Or I was informed that something was linked in chat and I missed my chance , despite keeping an eye out, things can still be missed. I mentioned this before and you got mad that you had several people point out several things that were off about the arguments you posted, and you said "poor baby can't scroll up, skill issue" in response to me saying that I scrolled up. Again, this post is aimed at implementing something to make ads easier for viewers and advertisers, not to debate on how much the ads are disruptive. So if you would like to share how qol features being added that benefit all are a BAD idea, I'd love to hear it. If you don't support it or have a valid reason as to why you want to prevent people from having an improved experience, then it's just senseless arguing. I can't make sense of why you would not want people to have a better time in FFXIV. Shouting your opinion louder than other people based on a few small points in a much bigger picture doesn't make you right and other people wrong, nor does it actually cover the topic at hand. So let's try to stay on track here instead of baseless arguments over tiny aspects of a much bigger issue.

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Originally Posted by Gordita

Last I checked FFXIV doesn't have discord integration, excusing senseless obstruction and spam based on the suggestion that a user should utilize a second device to play the game isn't valid, sorry. Things still get relayed in the game in linkshells, nn, FC, shout, etc. But if venue ads flood the chat, then these things can be missed. This is common sense. As I said before, I've scrolled up thru these venuebads to see stuff I've missed several times.. missed because of the chat flooding. Or I was informed that something was linked in chat and I missed my chance , despite keeping an eye out, things can still be missed. I mentioned this before and you got mad that you had several people point out several things that were off about the arguments you posted, and you said "poor baby can't scroll up, skill issue" in response to me saying that I scrolled up. Again, this post is aimed at implementing something to make ads easier for viewers and advertisers, not to debate on how much the ads are disruptive. So if you would like to share how qol features being added that benefit all are a BAD idea, I'd love to hear it. If you don't support it or have a valid reason as to why you want to prevent people from having an improved experience, then it's just senseless arguing. I can't make sense of why you would not want people to have a better time in FFXIV. Shouting your opinion louder than other people based on a few small points in a much bigger picture doesn't make you right and other people wrong, nor does it actually cover the topic at hand. So let's try to stay on track here instead of baseless arguments over tiny aspects of a much bigger issue.

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Shouting your opinion louder than other people based on a few small points in a much bigger picture doesn't make you right and other people wrong

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God can you please for the love of god have a little bit of self awareness ?

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Originally Posted by Ravenblade1979

Gordita I would also point out that it's the venue owners at large that would need to collectively come to an agreement and enforce it.

As is an example is venues on Aether collectively agreeing to no more the 3 pf's. Then some owners decided to disregard that. Somehow thinking more ads means more people.

When the opposite is true. People avoid those places. There's a fix for pf in the coding that would limit but as for the shout spam.

Not really much can be done unless the owners figure out that 3 paragraphs is going to get their shouter ignored big time. I've seen like one or two venue ads that were 2 sentences.

No one and i do mean no one complained or memed about it in shout. They praised those shoutrunners actually.

It's those fools who think a wall of spam will work when it just annoys people. Then these shoutrunners cry because people are getting mad at them.

I don't know. .maybe figure out how to minimize your ad so you aren't disrupting peoples convos.

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Yeah, shout ads literally do more harm than good. People just end up with a full blacklist, and get annoyed by the spam. It's senseless and ignorant

When people run out of weak arguments they resort to personal attacks and slander. Pretty sad.

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Originally Posted by Gordita

When people run out of weak arguments they resort to personal attacks and slander. Pretty sad.

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Like you calling everyone who disagrees with you a troll? That's all you've done this thread.

I offered an alternative option the other day and you didn't even discuss anything about it. All you said was that your idea was better because it would be easier to implement.
You clearly don't want to have a conversation about a solution. You just want to talk about your solution and nothing else.

And now coming back after the page fell off the front page to respond to a 3 day old comment and provide nothing new from it, yup, clearly you're just bumping the thread.

It's pretty clear that the forums don't want to engage with you on this subject. If all you're getting is "troll responses", why do you keep coming back and responding?

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Originally Posted by Thurmnmurmn

Like you calling everyone who disagrees with you a troll? That's all you've done this thread.

I offered an alternative option the other day and you didn't even discuss anything about it. All you said was that your idea was better because it would be easier to implement.
You clearly don't want to have a conversation about a solution. You just want to talk about your solution and nothing else.

And now coming back after the page fell off the front page to respond to a 3 day old comment and provide nothing new from it, yup, clearly you're just bumping the thread.

It's pretty clear that the forums don't want to engage with you on this subject. If all you're getting is "troll responses", why do you keep coming back and responding?

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I don't call everyone who disagrees with me a troll. someone making up random stuff out of thin air and trying to attack me with it, put words in my mouth, etc, trolling the thread... I have no issue calling a troll a troll. I'm happy to discuss the topic with people who don't come out and attack me or be blatantly rude and disrespectful right off the bat. A filter might be a decent solution , just seems like it might be harder to implement, and I do appreciate the feedback. Really wish there were more people contributing ideas for solutions than people talking crap though

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Originally Posted by Tsurayu

Okay, now you are just grossly exaggerating.

That is not happening in the game and you know it. None of the advertisements in Shout chat explicitly advertise anything of the sort. They are only ever described as +18 venues and often will drop their Carrd so you can learn more. Rarely will they even name drop "courtesans" in the Shout chat.

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Missed this comment. What you're saying is untrue, I see these ads almost every day, and when I do, I see them several times per day. I'm not here to make stuff up, unlike a few in here. Courts are advertised very frequently and it's kinda cringe to see it in shout chat.

That's just really bad bait. Chat filters being turned off aren't a solution, and that's been explained several times. The rest of your post isn't worth responding to, as it's laced with immaturity and disrespect.

I invite you to go count the number of people confirming that shout ads are a problem compared to people who say it's not a problem. Many have acknowledged the problem but said that it doesn't bother them that much. That doesn't mean that they're telling me I'm wrong. More people here have acknowledged the fact that shout spam is a thing and is annoying than people arguing against me. The difference being , the trolls make a lot of noise vs the people who dropped their comment and bounced.

The narcissistic gaslighting in this thread is unreal. Get a grip.