People Enjoy hard Games

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Originally Posted by Supersnow845

ARR alliance raids have 3 instakill mechanics (I’m not counting Cerberus fail condition) and all give you plenty of time and context clues to resolve them

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There are at least three in the Angra Mainyu fight alone, some of which occur multiple times in the single fight (coloured floor alternation, look away from Mortal Gaze, cure doom from failing Mortal Gaze, Lv150 Death). Not necessarily instant-instant but guaranteed sudden death if the player doesn't realise and doesn't take the correct steps to resolve them.

Plus Ancient Flare, Curtain Call, Behemoth meteors, dragonflies, stepping in Cerberus's goo without shrinking first, running away with the scary black circle marker in Xande's fight...

Several of those either happen quickly or do not have an intuitive solution, or at least one that can be worked out in the time you have before it splatters you.

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Originally Posted by VelKallor

You and 23 others who determine if you get past it or not. Or had you forgotten that small fact? I am not saying there should not be a challenge, I am saying that you MUST BALANCE THIS with the fact CT isnt extreme, isnt savage, isnt ultimate, is story content that is and should be able to be cleared by players with varying skill levels.

CT is now mandatory for MSQ and should be treated as such. You just want to make it "harder" for its own sake and have not taken any time to consider other factors that also come into game and encounter design.



FF 16 is single player , is not pay to play, is not an MMO. Apples and oranges.



A healer, heals, and does dps in downtime. A healers primary role is to heal, better more medica 2 than more resurrect. I see zero issue with a healer making sure their entire group stays up for the encounter.

So they overheal. Isnt a player with full health better than one at 10%?

So Supersnow, Ill ask the obvious question "make it harder"...why? To what end?

To achieve what? To accomplish what? To "weed out the unworthy"? "Kick out the bads??"

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What is the exact reason you want this change? What is the purpose and what is the expected result you want?

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No I want the encounter to exist in the form it was designed in, original CT was not hard and it should be preserved in the form that it was originally in, you will never disband on original CT, nobody is going to stop anyone from progressing, you are never going to be hard walled by CT, leaving it in this nerfed to hell state for a weird sense of accessibility Just hurts new players if anything because there is no scale of difficulty in this game

Yes 6 is a single player game, and it expects competency out of you, why does 14 not; what is the difference; is it that in 6 if you refuse to engage with the games systems there isn’t 23 other faceless people to carry you through the content; you paid for your copy of 6, it expects competency out of you, you paid for your access to 14 it expects competency out of you

And like I said CT should exist in the form IT WAS DESIGNED IN, leaving it turbo nerfed leaves a crap first experience for new people and a boring as hell experience on replays, do you really think first time players actually enjoy CT

Let's face it, all kinds of players play this game with varying skill levels. A smart developer will design content to capture the most players. I am not opposed to the making of harder content for those that want to experience it, what I am opposed to is changing content that most people can do to satisify those who want harder content. Personally I think most who say they want harder content really just want to gate others out of it. All the years I have been playing MMOs I have seen these arguments on various forums and it's always the same arguments. Life moves on and this game will not be the focus of the folks who want harder content in a year, some new shiny game will come out that will capture their attention. Gateing players that some deem bad is never a good thing. I am glad the devs don't pay attention to the NA forums much. Sad for us, better for them.

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Originally Posted by VelKallor

You and 23 others who determine if you get past it or not. Or had you forgotten that small fact? I am not saying there should not be a challenge, I am saying that you MUST BALANCE THIS with the fact CT isnt extreme, isnt savage, isnt ultimate, is story content that is and should be able to be cleared by players with varying skill levels.

CT is now mandatory for MSQ and should be treated as such. You just want to make it "harder" for its own sake and have not taken any time to consider other factors that also come into game and encounter design.


FF 16 is single player , is not pay to play, is not an MMO. Apples and oranges.



Yes. You are.



A healer, heals, and does dps in downtime. A healers primary role is to heal, better more medica 2 than more resurrect. I see zero issue with a healer making sure their entire group stays up for the encounter.

So they overheal. Who cares? Isnt a player with full health better than one at 10%? Id say it is.

So Supersnow, Ill ask the obvious question "make it harder"...why? To what end?

To achieve what? To accomplish what? To "weed out the unworthy"? "Kick out the bads??"

In short:

What is the exact reason you want this change? What is the purpose and what is the expected result you want?

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The original crystal tower was never hard. Asking for its original difficulty isn't asking for the game to become an extreme dark souls game and not going to wall people off from completing it. I don't know how asking for its original difficulty and wanting to see all the mechanics again equates to wanting a dark souls game or how it will wall people off from completion when all the mechanics that get skipped were never difficult on release in the first place.

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No I want the encounter to exist in the form it was designed in

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Why? You havent answered this. You want this done for what reason. With what rationale?

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And like I said CT should exist in the form IT WAS DESIGNED IN

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Why? Ill keep asking.You go on and on..and wont say what your reasoning is. What would this accomplish? Why do you want it reverted to an earlier form???

What exactly will this achieve? What purpose will it serve?

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Originally Posted by Nebelheim

The original crystal tower was never hard. Asking for its original difficulty isn't asking for the game to become an extreme dark souls game and not going to wall people off from completing it. I don't know how asking for its original difficulty equates to wanting a dark souls game.

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It was changed for a reason, why do you suppose it got changed? This is a self answering question.

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Originally Posted by Snorky

It was changed for a reason, why do you suppose it got changed? This is a self answering question.

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It was never difficult there was no need to change or nerf crystal tower. It's sad that even now with how easy crystal tower has become even experienced people cause wipes in it because people would rather try to dps down things to try to skip mechanics rather then actually do things.

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Originally Posted by Nebelheim

It was never diffiicult there was no need to change or nerf crystal tower.

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That my friend is an opinion. The developers deemed it necessary so what makes you think they don't know their own game? Why do you want it changed back?

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t. Personally I think most who say they want harder content really just want to gate others out of it

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I remember the day LFR came out for WOW. the kicking and screaming from "leet raiders" who wanted this content kept for themselves would have deafened a 747 at max power.

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Why do you want it changed back?

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Snorky? Notice that not one of them has actually answered this. Odd..innit?

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Like i keep saying it was never difficult to complete and its original difficulty wasn't that much harder then it currently is so why change it to become easier when it was always easy.

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Like I keep asking...to achieve what? To accomplish what?

The one thing is with CT is that its the item lvl. If they fixed that it would be an issue. If memory serve me correctly when they added the iron works at that time it made trivial.

Or they can just get rid of it and just make it a 4 man or something