Tomestones.. Again.. for a relic..

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Originally Posted by Knot_D

I'm questioning your sanity if you prefer bozja relic because, who in right minds prefer DR than a simple 1.5k tomestones?

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DR was actual content added to the game, so if we could have gotten something like that, I'd rather risk it being unfun than just a basic tome grind. Maybe an unpopular opinion, but I'd rather have something new than just more roulette spam.

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Originally Posted by Tint

I am rather questioning the sanity of people who pay a sub to not play the game...

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This idea of paying to not play has always baffled me. It's so backwards.

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Originally Posted by Knot_D

1.5k is plenty already, for all 19 jobs.

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Well it's actually 3k per weapon for steps 1 and 2 that's not easy peezy if you're doing more than one.

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Originally Posted by Knot_D

It's already comparable with HW relics. Did you forget how much you spent poetics for Anima relics?

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The difference between this and Anima is that there were other options to get drops. Some steps did strictly require poetics but you weren't forced into that if you enjoyed grinding them other ways for most of them. They offered dungeon running options, crafting options, doing weeklies, etc. Those required tomestone steps also weren't back to back like they are with the Manderville relics.

This step could have felt similar to Anima if they provided an alternative method to get the materials required. For example, running Expert roulette gets you one daily...or a weekly quest where you can complete it and get all 3.

Surely they can't add more to it than the first 2 steps right?
Look back at the first 2 steps of any relic, they were also that easy.
Especially for HW if you completed ARR relic before that since it gave you the "skip fate farm for free" card.
Relics are catch up content just like Alliance raid, there's nothing hardcore about relics.
They are literally a time sink for glamour lol

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Originally Posted by IkaraGreydancer

Yet you have to play to amass the 1.5k so this post is off. Yall are talking like you can move your character 3 meters and be done

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Well this is exactly what I did both of these steps because I already had the 1500 tomes. So it was literally zero effort, zero achivement, zero reason to log in the next day or the rest of the month that I subbed for.

And I dont want to get a relic for all 19 jobs. The vast majority of jobs I level to 90 and then don't touch until the next expansion (because theres no max level content to do on them (this is what the relic should be!!) outside of raiding).

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Originally Posted by Knot_D

It's already comparable with HW relics. Did you forget how much you spent poetics for Anima relics?

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HW relic had 5 stages by this point in the patch cycle, and none were an exact copy of the previous stage. So no, they are not comparable.

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Originally Posted by Ajayrious

Well this is exactly what I did both of these steps because I already had the 1500 tomes. So it was literally zero effort, zero achivement, zero reason to log in the next day or the rest of the month that I subbed for.

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Piggybacking off this,

As I said earlier about hunts, you can literally just join a party with a tank, smack the boss once and then afk and get credit. So technically you can do the bare minimum and not even play and get your tomestones.

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Originally Posted by Ruru_Nayu

Surely they can't add more to it than the first 2 steps right?
Look back at the first 2 steps of any relic, they were also that easy.
Especially for HW if you completed ARR relic before that since it gave you the "skip fate farm for free" card.
Relics are catch up content just like Alliance raid, there's nothing hardcore about relics.
They are literally a time sink for glamour lol

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you earned that skip doing Zeta back then they were not as easy
I think most would just rather farm the fates

and yeah first few steps are easy but you at least played the game lol instead of just a hand out.

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Originally Posted by Ajayrious

Well this is exactly what I did both of these steps because I already had the 1500 tomes. So it was literally zero effort, zero achivement, zero reason to log in the next day or the rest of the month that I subbed for.

And I dont want to get a relic for all 19 jobs. The vast majority of jobs I level to 90 and then don't touch until the next expansion (because theres no max level content to do on them (this is what the relic should be!!) outside of raiding).

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Why get a relic at all then?

As a casual player Relics were always my main content. HW had the best method where there were multiple ways to complete most steps. It's been getting worse since then. This time is it extremely lazy and kills off a good section of content that kept a lot of us busy. It seems like each expansion the patches get more bare in general. We've gotten to the point where things are now "give us tomes" and done.