We lost 70% of our player base half a year in

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Originally Posted by DiaDeem

Most people play on Windows Client or PlayStation, jfyi

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As I said earlier, this doesn't discount the data provided by steam. CBU3 would be stupid to just ignore it.

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Originally Posted by Aword3213

yeah the game is dead. Hubs are ghost towns. Jobs are boring to play. No content whatsoever.

Why would any sensible person with decent IQ keep paying subs for this dead game?

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Thats a hard copium inhale right here, when we see the the trend. The question is, do you know why, or dont want to know.

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Originally Posted by Deceptus

As I said earlier, this doesn't discount the data provided by steam. CBU3 would be stupid to just ignore it.

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You can see in this thread, that many people dont understand the word "statistic" and think that for sure, for sure other client users are different.

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Originally Posted by SaltyDaddy

You can see in this thread, that many people dont understand the word "statistic" and think that for sure, for sure other client users are different.

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Statistics don't mean as much when you isolate them for one specific period.
You can go back and look at iyrnthota's comment 2 pages back to see the stats show FFXIV had a better retention % compared to previous expansions (as long as his numbers are right. I didn't fact check it myself)

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Originally Posted by SaltyDaddy

Thats a hard copium inhale right here, when we see the the trend. The question is, do you know why, or dont want to know.

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it's hardly copium. 70% is a huge number. If a game, especially MMO, loses so much 70% of player base, it's very unwise to keep subbing.

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Originally Posted by Thurmnmurmn

Statistics don't mean as much when you isolate them for one specific period.
You can go back and look at iyrnthota's comment 2 pages back to see the stats show FFXIV had a better retention % compared to previous expansions (as long as his numbers are right. I didn't fact check it myself)

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"statistics dont mean much" lmao

How to be clueless 101

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Originally Posted by Stormpeaks

"statistics dont mean much" lmao

How to be clueless 101

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The original quote is "Statistics don't mean as much when you isolate them for one specific period. "

it means a lot different when you read words out of context.

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Originally Posted by Aword3213

The original quote is "Statistics don't mean as much when you isolate them for one specific period. "

it means a lot different when you read words out of context.

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Oh it does, statistics dont mean much to them when it doesnt fit their narrative, better now ?

People like him and the few others that find excuses for this game losing players are on some serious copium, and it might be time to wake up that player retention in FFXIV is absolutely terrible, because the game is boring outside of the 1 week of content every 4 months, but hey, at least they're releasing mount remodels at full price every 2 or 3 weeks right ? And even better, if you want a different color, you pay at full price too now !

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Originally Posted by Stormpeaks

Oh it does, statistics dont mean much to them when it doesnt fit their narrative, better now ?

People like him and the few others that find excuses for this game losing players are on some serious copium, and it might be time to wake up that player retention in FFXIV is absolutely terrible, because the game is boring outside of the 1 week of content every 4 months, but hey, at least they're releasing mount remodels at full price every 2 or 3 weeks right ?

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I guess doomsayers and few others also think statistics don't mean much to them when it doesn't fit their narrative?

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Originally Posted by Iyrnthota

Percentage drop off from Expansion release to 1 month before x.4 release (assuming 6.4 May release):

HW - 43% drop off
ST - 60% drop off
ShB - 42% Drop off
EW - 65% Drop off

Percentage increase in player count between Expansion releases:

HW > StB - 215%
StB > ShB - 161%
ShB > EW - 231%


If you count that summer peak as an "expansion" then the numbers look like this:

ShB > Summer Peak - 163%
Summer Peak > EW - 142%

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OPs statistic might be correct. That's why I think people should stop subbing. 70% is a very serious number. It's beyond salvaton at this point. The game is barely defendable when it start losing 50% of player base. Let alone 70%

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Originally Posted by Stormpeaks

Oh it does, statistics dont mean much to them when it doesnt fit their narrative, better now ?

People like him and the few others that find excuses for this game losing players are on some serious copium, and it might be time to wake up that player retention in FFXIV is absolutely terrible, because the game is boring outside of the 1 week of content every 4 months, but hey, at least they're releasing mount remodels at full price every 2 or 3 weeks right ? And even better, if you want a different color, you pay at full price too now !

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If I recall, in another thread you went on about how you wanted proof about things before you believe it.
In this case, I'm using statistics as well. You are legit using the same argument as you say I am with fitting your narrative. In my case it's looking at the bigger time frame compared to this threads small sample.

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Originally Posted by Thurmnmurmn

If I recall, in another thread you went on about how you wanted proof about things before you believe it.
In this case, I'm using statistics as well. You are legit using the same argument as you say I am with fitting your narrative. In my case it's looking at the bigger time frame compared to this threads small sample.

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No, you are using the statistics to make them fit what you want, a 25% loss is still a 25% loss. Even if lets say the increase at the expansion release (example) was 500%, and then in 3 months the loss is 25%, it's still a 25% loss.

Because the 500% increase exists doesnt mean that losing 25% is all fine and that the game is in full health and is thriving.