Black Mage Sanctuary - A Guide to DPS

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08-05-2015, 09:32 AM
Happosai

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Originally Posted by Garotte14

Get the chest, and if you by chance join a static and get to A2, eat accuracy food. Simple

Thanks! Cheers
08-05-2015, 03:25 PM
AkkoAihara

das

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Originally Posted by Happosai

Hey guys. Curious as to what you all plan to upgrade with eso next? Picked up the ilvl 200 wep today leaving me with i190 all slots but chest and 1xring (ilvl 180 pieces). The somewhat obvious choice for me would be chest next but that would cause my accuracy to drop down to 553. From what I understand our accuracy cap is in the low 600's? With that said I'm not currently in an alexander savage raid group but would like to be if the situation presented itself (not highly likely). What would you pro's do in my situation?

A1Savage no misses with 492/496 Acc
A2Savage no misses with 543 Acc - misses with 496 acc...still testing the acc cap there

your acc is way too high ;
08-05-2015, 03:28 PM
Clarkamite

Has there been any extensive testing done with accuracy in Savage? Planning my build out a little bit and I'm shooting for around 560 as of right now. I haven't heard of much being needed beyond that for A3 at least. Its crazy how much accuracy is saturated on gear right now.

Working on A2 right now and I don't need any accuracy at least until A4 from the sounds of it.
08-05-2015, 06:17 PM
Aikaal

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Originally Posted by OneWingedSora

What min/max range are you getting at the moment with weapon on Fire IV ? Party buff preferably.

Pot, voiced foe, rs, ta I get about 11.1k-11.5k crit highest. It would be slightly more with Battle Litanny but my group isn<t running Dragoon right now. I'm getting about 1150-1180 DPS on enrage wipes of A3S right now.

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Originally Posted by SaucepanKaoz

um, aikaal, you can still swift f3 in ur opener and fit 5 f4s and a proc in ur pot with fey wind. Meanwhile you're letting enochian eat into ur gcd, then you let rs and pot in the same weave eat into ur gcd. You're also wasting 3.5 second of ley lines. The 0.5 second gain from swift f4 (2.5 vs 3) and 189 potency vs whatever the amount of seconds enochian and rs eats into your GCD and 3.5 seconds of ley lines. 6 f4s is sketchy when i do it, sometimes i get instant b4, sometimes not, which would mean a loss in casts.

I don't have any math, I'm just curious if you thought about that. Did you calculate potency per gcd or potency per second? Cause potency per gcd is wrong. The only fight I do swift f3 is a3s anyways, due how it's designed. But that's for another dicussion.

Here's some a3s blm pov if you're interested. My enochians cd was misstimed by 1-2 seconds for some reason, threw me off a bit.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IAVWCeR7MsY

190 weapon, x pots, tarts, lb3 cast, no foe, 195
http://puu.sh/jpKwZ.png

I'm at work so I can't check but I can tell there is zero gain from using swiftcast on the first F3. It's preference and it makes more sense to me to keep it for movement. Hardcast + 2 OGCD is actualyl shorter than Swift F3 + 2 OGCD because you eat the whole global of F3 that is 2.5 seconds. It doesn't take that much time to use 2 OGCD. I also use Swift in A3S during my F3 proc for 4th F4 so I don't lose downtime there. So even if you gain Leylines time, I still feel Swiftcast on F3 is not the best solution.

It's more preference, I'm doing really good the way I open, I do have the Foe edge over you on that fight but my group have overall less DPS than you :( My best attempts has been 1150-1180dps.
08-05-2015, 06:23 PM
HaroldSaxon

I dream of a DRG, NIN, BRD, AST, SCH group
08-05-2015, 06:38 PM
SaucepanKaoz

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Originally Posted by Aikaal

Pot, voiced foe, rs, ta I get about 11.1k-11.5k crit highest. It would be slightly more with Battle Litanny but my group isn<t running Dragoon right now. I'm getting about 1150-1180 DPS on enrage wipes of A3S right now.

I'm at work so I can't check but I can tell there is zero gain from using swiftcast on the first F3. It's preference and it makes more sense to me to keep it for movement. Hardcast + 2 OGCD is actualyl shorter than Swift F3 + 2 OGCD because you eat the whole global of F3 that is 2.5 seconds. It doesn't take that much time to use 2 OGCD. I also use Swift in A3S during my F3 proc for 4th F4 so I don't lose downtime there. So even if you gain Leylines time, I still feel Swiftcast on F3 is not the best solution.

It's more preference, I'm doing really good the way I open, I do have the Foe edge over you on that fight but my group have overall less DPS than you :( My best attempts has been 1150-1180dps.

Mate, you have 2 more weapon damage, FOE, trick, and probably use drac pot. That wasn't close to my best attempt, ur not close to even stepping into my realm C!@0, Kappa
08-05-2015, 08:50 PM
Dervy

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Originally Posted by Garotte14

Get the chest, and if you by chance join a static and get to A2, eat accuracy food. Simple

Source? Maths?
08-05-2015, 09:02 PM
OneWingedSora

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Originally Posted by Aikaal

I'm at work so I can't check but I can tell there is zero gain from using swiftcast on the first F3. It's preference and it makes more sense to me to keep it for movement. Hardcast + 2 OGCD is actualyl shorter than Swift F3 + 2 OGCD because you eat the whole global of F3 that is 2.5 seconds. It doesn't take that much time to use 2 OGCD. I also use Swift in A3S during my F3 proc for 4th F4 so I don't lose downtime there. So even if you gain Leylines time, I still feel Swiftcast on F3 is not the best solution.

I think the reason he swiftcasts F3 at the start of A3S is because he's standing 2 oclock of the boss so he uses it to get there without losing casts. Thankfully, I just stand 6 oclock of the boss so I can just start with my normal opener and save swiftcast incase I get targeted by Protene Wave or Sluice.

Still a very impressive video but there is room to squeeze more DPS, Sharpcast Thunder > Thundercloud on the other hand during P2(I think your group definitely has the DPS to not get negatively affected by that) , flaring the tornado to hit 3+adds, etc. I also don't know what the merit was for using fire 1 > thunder > fire 1 > sharpcast > fire 1 during last phase ? Was this an execution error or is this intentional ?
08-05-2015, 09:16 PM
Waliel

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Originally Posted by Aikaal

It would be slightly more with Battle Litanny but my group isn<t running Dragoon right now.

Does Battle Litany increase your crit damage? I never paid any attention (almost never get to group with a DRG), but I always just assumed it was a flat +15% crit chance aka the most overrated buff in the game.

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Originally Posted by SaucepanKaoz

Mate, you have 2 more weapon damage, FOE, trick, and probably use drac pot. That wasn't close to my best attempt, ur not close to even stepping into my realm C!@0, Kappa

A weapon he could've gotten yesterday at the earliest.

How much extra DPS overall Foe even is nowadays? Last number I heard was around 4%, but that was long ago.
08-05-2015, 09:34 PM
ShinryuReishiki

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Originally Posted by Waliel

Does Battle Litany increase your crit damage? I never paid any attention (almost never get to group with a DRG), but I always just assumed it was a flat +15% crit chance aka the most overrated buff in the game.

It only increases the Critical Rate; Critical Damage is unaffected.

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