Eternal Bond - Standard Plan and Gold Plan

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Originally Posted by Starlord

I invented the name about 3ish years ago when playing a game called Suikoden Tiekreis I took the Word Star from " The Mark of the stars" and lord because I was in charge of a castle and made Starlord :).

But now it's the coolest name to have apparently :P.

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Cool! I've never heard of the game. Nice way to come up with a name though. All I have is Zoot Zoot. I got it from the Muppets, the saxophone player. I played the saxophone. For this game I couldn't think of a last name to go with Zoot, especially since my name in FFXI was just Zoot :)

Well, to be fair the Star-Lord Marvel character has existed since 1976, so I think that incarnation has a few years on you ;)

But yes, most people didn't know the character until this year because of the movie, which was awesome.

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Originally Posted by TouchandFeel

Well, to be fair the Star-Lord Marvel character has existed since 1976, so I think that incarnation has a few years on you ;)

But yes, most people didn't know the character until this year because of the movie, which was awesome.

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Much awesome! I actually had Star Lord confused with the Star Jammers, when Guardians was first announced. I must say Guardians are much cooler than the Star Jammers!

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Originally Posted by TouchandFeel

Well, to be fair the Star-Lord Marvel character has existed since 1976, so I think that incarnation has a few years on you ;)

But yes, most people didn't know the character until this year because of the movie, which was awesome.

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Yeah I never knew that...

Okay, I reborn-ed the name! (or maybe redefined it) :P

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Originally Posted by Starlord

Kinda weird You access servers and play games in a F2P MMO and that is free of charge (naturally to make money they have a cash shop). When a P2P game 8-15 bucks a month depending on your plan/legacy uses a cash shop that's completely fine, knowing what F2P games do, it makes F2P games look better if you are comparing models. The more they add to the cash shop the more I will respect F2P despite me never playing them as at least their game is F2P and not charging a Fee to use their severs, heck even some F2P games have decent servers to play on. That is just me though.

PS: No SE, I don't want you to go F2P, I just hope you stop this Cash shop thing before it gets out of hand. Stay Strictly P2P /no cash shop like most of us like. The main reason why most are hear is because there isn't a cash shop.

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Difference being that F2P tend to lock key game progression behind cash shop. Let's take Grand Chase, for example. You get 4 free character slots, and have to pay to unlock any subsequent character after that. you have to pay to unlock skill trees for the characters, pay to be able to upgrade your armor.


Don't like that example? How about this one:

Grand Fantasia. Inventory expansion, items to increase the success of your crafting/upgrading, all vanity options, pets.

There is a world of difference between optional cosmetic options and a F2P's MMO's cash shop locking QoL and inventory space behind their cash shops.

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Originally Posted by Ilitsa

Difference being that F2P tend to lock key game progression behind cash shop. Let's take Grand Chase, for example.

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I don't wanna go off tangent this thread is on but just gotta comment on this. Grand Chase originally wasn't like that. It became like that because the developer killed off 90% of the global player base with bad patches and still wanted to milk the game for all it was worth.

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Originally Posted by Cynric

I don't wanna go off tangent this thread is on but just gotta comment on this. Grand Chase originally wasn't like that. It became like that because the developer killed off 90% of the global player base with bad patches and still wanted to milk the game for all it was worth.

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Be that as it may, it's like that now.

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Originally Posted by Ilitsa

There is a world of difference between optional cosmetic options and a F2P's MMO's cash shop locking QoL and inventory space behind their cash shops.

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Putting a Big feature like Marriage behind a paywall isn't what I call Cosmetic. Please don't give me the "it's free" deal because they are most likely putting the biggest things that every couple in-game would probably want behind a paywall. When it should be in game. Minions? Fine Holiday items? sure Mounts? pushing it a little A Big feature like Marriage.. That's where I cross the line.

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Originally Posted by Starlord

Putting a Big feature like Marriage behind a paywall isn't what I call Cosmetic. Please don't give me the "it's free" deal because they are most likely putting the biggest things that every couple in-game would probably want behind a paywall. When it should be in game. Minions? Fine Holiday items? sure Mounts? pushing it a little A Big feature like Marriage.. That's where I cross the line.

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The marriage isn't behind a paywall. the COSMETIC Mount and minion is.

Tried reading the entire thread. Felt like I was trapped chasing Zeno's turtle and thus skipped... well most of it. Has the information changed? Do we now need to pay to be married? 'Cause when I started readig this thread, we only needed to pay extra to get a mount, a nicer dress, a cake and such.

If things haven't changed, then I'm more upset that they waited so long to tell us on such short notice that they'd have the gold version and whatnot than I am about them charging for it to begin with, though that is just from info I learned reading today. Also that I probably need to be Eternally Bonded at all to get the wedding dress, since I'd rather remain unattatched, but that's my crazy flaring up,