Sell Fantasia on the Mogstation

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Originally Posted by Shioban

I think you're making mountains out of a molehill with that statement. But come back when they do this and we'll rue the day, but until then let's not go over-board on the exaggerations.


Me wanting to change from a Female Miqo'te to a Male Miqo'te has nothing to do with purchasing gear. For a development team that are strongly against pay-to-win, people certainly aren't very trusting of them in this thread.

This is a standard MMO service, they rake in the extra dollah, we get an appearance change, we go back to playing the game.


Personally, I don't care if its cash, or in-game currencies. As long as its re-obtainable, but speculating the marketing strategies of a Japanese MMO publisher really isn't something any of us can do effectively.


Drama, Drama.

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Going F2P when it becomes profitable is also another "standard MMO service", do you want SquareEnix to do that to?

As for the gear vs fantasia: you were previously refering to a "it is ok, because it doesn't affect you". I used the same argument to motivate why I should be able to pay 5k dollars to buy i110 gear for my tank. Evidently, your previously provided reason for why you think it is okay to sell Fantasia for $ is not sufficient.

As for "Pay to Win": which competition are we actually winning? There is no PvP and even if there was, the purchasable gear can be designed so that it can't be used in PvP.

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Originally Posted by HurtigeKarl

I will take you seriously the day you allow my tank to pay 5000 dollars to get a full i110 set to faceroll any content; it certainly affects the group of people I choose to play with, but if they are ok and it certainly doesn't affect you, why don't you want me to have that option?

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You are trolling right?

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Originally Posted by HurtigeKarl

I will take you seriously the day you allow my tank to pay 5000 dollars to get a full i110 set to faceroll any content; it certainly affects the group of people I choose to play with, but if they are ok and it certainly doesn't affect you, why don't you want me to have that option?

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This is the most ignorant comment I have read yet... Fantasia is a liquid that lets you change the appearance of your character... It's doesn't add skills or any special effect it lets you change the way your character looks... How can you compare that to gear? And how does that affect you or a group? Thats like saying yeah if you shave your head im gonna be effected... Maybe you should know what your talking about before you start talking...

Changing your appearance doesn't effect playing stats, I don't see the issue for people wanting it or how it gets implemented. In a game where it's geared to play just on the one character something like this should of been available from the start! people love vanity options for their game characters so they don't get bored staring at the same thing for a few years.

Stop humouring the troll please.

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Originally Posted by Ed_N_Ants

This is the most ignorant comment I have read yet... Fantasia is a liquid that lets you change the appearance of your character... It's doesn't add skills or any special effect it lets you change the way your character looks... How can you compare that to gear? And how does that affect you or a group? Thats like saying yeah if you shave your head im gonna be effected... Maybe you should know what your talking about before you start talking...

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How does it affect you that a tank that you never ever will play with, buys a i110 set from the item mall? It is starting to sound like: "Neither things really affect me, but you can't have that but you can have the other thing, simply because I say so, sometimes I will even call you "troll" to prove my point".

And again before someone else points towards the "buuuuut, buuut, thats paytoooowiiiin": which competition would that person be winning? There is no pvp, and even if there was, the item mall set can be made to not be allowed in PvP.

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Originally Posted by Rekujen

You are trolling right?

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I was just coming to this conclusion myself, I've been trying to prepare a response but in the end I gave up. Trolling or quite insane, I'm not sure which.

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Originally Posted by HurtigeKarl

How does it affect you that a tank that you never ever will play with, buys a i110 set from the item mall? It is starting to sound like: "Neither things really affect me, but you can't have that but you can have the other thing, simply because I say so, sometimes I will even call you "troll" to prove my point".

And again before someone else points towards the "buuuuut, buuut, thats paytoooowiiiin": which competition would that person be winning? There is no pvp, and even if there was, the item mall set can be made to not be allowed in PvP.

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Because we could be racing for world/server first. Even if he doesn't care, I might. We are also competing for group spots. You say we might never meet, but there is no way of knowing that at all. That is how it is different, even though this is a PVE game, we are in competition to some degree.

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Originally Posted by hobostew

What game offers a complete recustomization for free? Not talking about just hair/face options here but the whole shabang as in race, gender, etc.

Personally, I'm all for it. SE makes money and I get to essentially remake my character without losing my progress.

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RuneScape. Ok, it costs in game currency, but it still does not cost real life cash.

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Originally Posted by DerpyCubone

Because we could be racing for world/server first. Even if he doesn't care, I might. We are also competing for group spots. You say we might never meet, but there is no way of knowing that at all. That is how it is different, even though this is a PVE game, we are in competition to some degree.

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A fix to deal with racing first, which I find to be a valid concern: SquareEnix could simply state that players who use such gear do not count as server first, or just lock the gear out from content for which there has not been a server first yet.

As for competing for group spots: there is a shortage of tanks, the competition is therefore minimal. If we are going to take consideration to such minimal effect, we may as well take consideration to those who find it immersion-breaking to see people change their entire body. In a FF game, story and immersion should triumph competitiveness in order of importance.

Finally, if people find it important to compete about PvE-related things, then it is very much valid to compete about aesthetics-related things, which is another reason for why neither items that help you in the pve of a game in any form or things that affects the aesthetics of your character or your surroundings should ever be purchasable in an "Item mall".

And if a person finds it ridiculous to compete in aesthetics, then I can simply point to any RL fashion contest. Furthermore, I would also point out that for hardcore PvPers, competing in PvE is laughable :D.