PSA - Cleric Stance and vote kicking

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Originally Posted by Alysrea

I did say it is fine for a healer to not DPS if their party is okay with it, but if the majority of their group is not okay with it then something needs to change, either their stance on DPS or their position in the party.

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I did miss that, my bad.

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Originally Posted by Aramina

I am beginning to wonder if it is a data center difference.

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It's not a DC difference because I am on his DC and I seen tanks getting bugged for not pulling enough or DPS running ahead to pull more if the tank fails to do so. So he must have somehow not come across this himself? Although I don't know how that is possible...

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Originally Posted by Aramina

I am beginning to wonder if it is a data center difference.

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Apparently there are data centers wherein only healers are persecuted and blamed for everything.

Over here on Aether, I feel like everyone gets shit on pretty equally...

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Originally Posted by Alysrea

Whaaat? people do bitch at tanks to pull more 100% of the time

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i don't, so there goes your 100%.

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Originally Posted by Aramina

You can't possibly be serious. Out of all scenarios: a) Tanks not pulling enough b) DPS being lazy and c) Healers not DPSing, a) happens EXPONENTIALLY more frequently than the other 2 combined.


I am beginning to wonder if it is a data center difference.

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i tank a lot so i guess i have the opportunity to see it less but when i don't tank i don't see anyone complain about small pulls.

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Originally Posted by Thunda_Cat_SMASH

And yet their carrying the DPS can't clear a dps

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Originally Posted by Thunda_Cat_SMASH

when the issue is the dragoon spamming CT combo without putting up HT and ignoring BotD.

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And clearly you are right now berating DPS and citing specific examples of times where DPS have annoyed you, if you are choosing not to speak up at these times that's on you, I have never played with a single person who would let a DPS get away with playing their job completely wrong as they were not meeting DPS checks in a fight.

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Originally Posted by missybee

Apparently there are data centers wherein only healers are persecuted and blamed for everything.

Over here on Aether, I feel like everyone gets shit on pretty equally...

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i'm not implying i see healers get persecuted either, nobody does, most people are pretty cordial and just let people play at their own pace.

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Originally Posted by SendohJin

that also only works if the DPS is bad, your hypothetical is bad. there are actual events that happen that you don't acknowledge, lots of tanks don't use mitigation cooldowns.

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I cannot make sense of what you are even talking about now (because I mentioned cooldowns already) so best to give up because my initial question wasn't even directed at you.

Also the DPS being bad or not has nothing to do with it...the point is you could still do that and hold hate so still would be interesting to see a PLD do nothing but flash and sit there waiting for the mobs to die :/

"DPS are never held accountable!"

So let's have an ingame pars--

"PARSERS WILL MAKE THE COMMUNITY TOXIC"

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Originally Posted by SendohJin

i don't, so there goes your 100%.



i tank a lot so i guess i have the opportunity to see it less but when i don't tank i don't see anyone complain about small pulls.

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Being hyperbolic doesn't make my statement invalid, healers are not the only ones that get bitched at for how they play their job.

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Originally Posted by Alysrea

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I used to, yet whenever I would the other dps and healer/tank would whine at me for not CSing/Nongritting enough, even when I had spent the entire fight outside of the enmity establishing opener in tank stance. o3o People just don't talk about dps.