Wow, Wuk Lamat is really single-handedly ruining the DT story...

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Originally Posted by aiqa

What annoys me far more than Wuk... is the constant eating. Ever since 6.x made eating a novelty for Zero, they use food as some sort of pinnacle of story telling.

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Well. I once read someone summaise the whole Comicsgate problem like this:
suddenly superheroes were all about eating food and talking about feelings all the time. Instead whatever is usual superhero stuff. I dunno, I don't read american comics.

Of course ff14 and superhero comics are pretty far from one another. Other than maybe swimming the distant, opposite ends of geekosphere pool.
But the ailment the writing is suffering seems to have coincidental similarities.

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Originally Posted by Burmecia

Of course ff14 and superhero comics are pretty far from one another. Other than maybe swimming the distant, opposite ends of geekosphere pool.
But the ailment the writing is suffering seems to have coincidental similarities.

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They're closer than you think.
Final Fantasy XIV involves super powered individuals, most notably the Warrior of Light.
FF14 is written like a mystery novel, modern tokusatsu, of which Yoshida is a fan of, most notably Kamen Rider, or a Super Sentai series like Kingohger, is written like a mystery novel with superheroes.
Japanese Superheroes makes up the majority of the Tokusatsu genre
FF14 -> Mystery Novels with Superpowers -> Tokusatsu / Japanese Superheroes -> Western Superheroes

Hi, new player here. Wuk is genuinely the worst thing to ever happen to this game. However even without her, the writing is just god awful. Also i can't be the only one who finds Wuk's and Sphene's friendship insanely forced.

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Originally Posted by Broskie

Hi, new player here. Wuk is genuinely the worst thing to ever happen to this game. However even without her, the writing is just god awful. Also i can't be the only one who finds Wuk's and Sphene's friendship insanely forced.

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I call it Wuk no Jutsu. Everyone gets tempered by her and have no opposing views to her, or if they do, they vanish after a bit of a dose of good ol' wuk no jutsu. It causes villains to do 180's, it causes everyone to adore her and forget their own goals and co-exist within her world, even her brothers own passions and goals got erased and devoured by Wuk no jutsu's papa peace project.

DT is the first expansion where I'm 100% certain I won't rewatch the cutscenes. DT is the first expansion that I'm 100% certain I won't play with a second character.

Oh my God this is still going.

I get why, but damn.

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Originally Posted by Basteala

Oh my God this is still going.

I get why, but damn.

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339 pages of complaints about the character that I'm 100% sure has NOTHING to do with her English VA, right? Because I can happily critique questionable VA work, but a 300+ page thread seems kinda... excessive?

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Originally Posted by Basteala

Oh my God this is still going.

I get why, but damn.

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It is still ongoing as of now because, as I have observed, some have yet to complete the story or may have just finished it, and they are posting in this thread to share their opinions.

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Originally Posted by ElysiumDragon

339 pages of complaints about the character that I'm 100% sure has NOTHING to do with her English VA, right? Because I can happily critique questionable VA work, but a 300+ page thread seems kinda... excessive?

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Her omnipresence in the story even when she isn't here, the fact that she didn't just took the light from the WoL like some have but totally overshadowed the importance of the WoL in the whole MSQ, the fact that she is close to the definition of a Mary Sue that don't learn anything but that she was always right and "being a little more confident in herself" that is the same as saying to a recruiter in an interview for you are a "perfectionist" as your "flaw". All that has nothing to do with the VA, that isn't the only dub in FFXIV, with many like myself that played either in VO or VF depending on the character I play.

For some, she is the reason they didn't liked the whole MSQ, which is one of the main point of FFXIV, so while excessive, I think it's quite understandable since it means for them 2 years of boring storyline to follow.

It's not a mystery if many are saying that the 7.2 is in the "right path", with Real Sphene connecting with the WoL rather than with Wuk Lamat, and her being artificially made less relevant, nearly absent of the whole MSQ ("oh, yeah I need to talk to those people about coming to Tuliyollal, I wasn't supposed to be the one Real Sphene would connect to make a parallel with AI Sphene and this wasn't changed at the very last moment because of the MSQ criticisms").

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Originally Posted by TeresaFortell

It is still ongoing as of now because, as I have observed, some have yet to complete the story or may have just finished it, and they are posting in this thread to share their opinions.

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God that's a mood. I can get that, though.