Wow, Wuk Lamat is really single-handedly ruining the DT story...

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Originally Posted by Antharaes

I had to click...and it was horrendous. I never understood why people think, that yelling makes them more right. And that voice....that's still ringing even through my tinnitus...awful.

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It does appear that many FF14 content creators either rely on squeaky baby voices or harangue the audience like they're making a pitch for class president.

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Originally Posted by Antharaes

I had to click...and it was horrendous. I never understood why people think, that yelling makes them more right. And that voice....that's still ringing even through my tinnitus...awful.

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i am less than 3 minutes in, second listening since the first time didn't leave much, in my head, like any robust, well thought-out counter-criticism.
she seems to think that DT criticism is ridiculous, says that too from the get go. so points for announcing her stance loud and clear like that.
uh, i fail to see how VA Z being trans and VA X being gay have anything to do with anything. anything being their acting skill, i suppose.
also, was that, uh, assimilating drag queens and trans women? drag queens and GSRM/LGBT? anyway...

i could go into nitty gritty, but i won't, because i am out of steam...
i don't think wuk lamat is the worst thing in history of everything. i find her woefully uninteresting. anti-je ne sais quoi, unique in ffxiv's cast because no one else, of comparable importance, is as banal as her.
i don't wan't to talk to her.
sometimes, some people, just don't find fictional people interesting and that is ok.
also, maybe better writing could have save wuk lamat. maybe not. it's too late now.

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If authors and screenwriters do their jobs properly you will hate some characters and love others, whilst some will always stay in the grey area that's somewhere in between. It's also 'safe' to wish a fictional character dead, because it might or might not happen and this 'wishing' is mostly meaningless.
- just interesting quote of slight relevance to the discussion at hand i found, from random internet writer

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Originally Posted by Mawlzy

So much of it was incomprehensible.

Potential heirs to continent-spanning monarchies spend most of their childhood being groomed for the role. At the very least, use the fact Wuk Lamat somehow knew nothing ("Papa" was an idiot?) as a plot device. Maybe she spent her childhood batting a ball of yarn around the palace.

The whole ceremony of the reeds thing was equally bizarre. Big Bird scratching his head wondering why the crop was failing, despite the fact that the annual festival spewed aether everywhere feeding the reeds!? A fact iirc that the odd carpenter guy knew perfectly well, but chose not to mention to anyone until after the fact.

Is an executive editor named anywhere in the credits? Or are the writers given a rough idea of the filler required between the dungeons and trials and told to just wing it?

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Last time I checked a lot of the writers had roles in other departments like encounter design and quest design, then there was one who had written some mobile "nurse anime dating games"
But could be just that the IMDB / CV thing wasnt accurate for credits. Most likely victims of the oh so great Japanese system of pushing people into roles they arent supposed to be in.

But its clear the writers at the moment have no place to writing this story, we need nuance, politics/worldbuilding in again. That human touch, character development.

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Originally Posted by danken20

You must have weak ears then

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Ofcourse, it has nothing to do with that godawful screeching voice.
Besides that, it's never a good idea, to voice your opinion in that manner, because that's all it is, an opinion.

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Originally Posted by danken20

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Good God that person was annoying and so completely off the mark on practically everything they were ranting about.

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Originally Posted by Antharaes

I had to click...and it was horrendous. I never understood why people think, that yelling makes them more right. And that voice....that's still ringing even through my tinnitus...awful.

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https://ih1.redbubble.net/image.5282...000,f8f8f8.jpg

that video is literally this

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Originally Posted by danken20

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Suffering through the squeaking and cringe...

Yea it is unfair to compare DT to ARR, doing so is an insult to ARR.
The problem with the voice actor is that they clearly wasn't hired for talent.
I really don't know where the One Piece comparisons come from, and it's hardly Naruto either... Maybe if there was a 4kids Naruto dub.
The Warrior of Light does help people, that's why we helped Ok'Hanu and Mamook and literally no other place in the entire expansion.
Yea there was a candidate who was going to try to go to war with the continent of Eorzea if they won, that was Zoraal, but he was going to literally try to invade across the ocean without a navy.

Zoraal was just fucking stupid.
Stormblood Zenos was just pure evil from the start, he was very much just looking for strong enemies to fight because fighting was literally the only thing he ever cared about in his life, he was treating his territories like shit because he wanted them to rise up against him so he had a justification to beat them up... But then they ruined him by bringing him back.

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Originally Posted by Arohk

there is your problem:

https://i.imgur.com/vr0vJvS.jpeg

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Honestly, none of the problem with DT have to do with DEI. Some part of the anglo-saxon public is up its ass with it that it doesn't even realise that English is not the first version, Japanese is, where WL is voiced by and refered to as a female, and same goes with the french and german versions. I've seen a lot of english content maker reference her as them, because she is voiced by a trans-woman in the english version, and I find that so weird. Why do the V.A. spill over the character?

And in all occurences, the verdict is the same, it's badly written, but this has nothing to do with DEI, with the exact same reason why. The people trying to paint paint DEI as the problem of DT, the people trying to say people don't like the extension because they're racist/transphobe, etc... You're all the same clowns, you deserve each other...

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Originally Posted by danken20

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This is wild... I left after less than a minute, when she says she watched a lot a video a did watch, and the first sentence after that is "Most of the complain is about Wuk Lamat". What? It's not even my native language and I understand that's not the main complaint in those videos. Do you have a reading/listening problem?

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Originally Posted by danken20

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Holy fuck that was cringe and completely misunderstood every complaint

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I watched the whole video. It honestly just comes off as someone who is far too invested in defending Dawntrail because of how much their tie their personal identity to it instead of an actual counter-argument for many of the primary criticisms that have been expounded upon numerous people over the year.