New coliseum gear too lewd

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Originally Posted by AsterBarnivere

Long story short, Neomarl is one of those players that are unhappy no matter what SE gives them.
*Bikinis aren't sexist but this armor set clearly is... LOLLOGIC*

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What you just said now was sexist. idk where but I'm sure it is.

Oh wow really sexism because of some skimpy cloth in a game, really? For crying out loud ever went outside in the summer?
Girl's 14-16 in a bra (boobs falling out) and tight shorts with camel toe.
If women want to whine and bitch about sexism and being "used" maybe don't dress like a slut 24/7. Don't go to bars and show some boobs for a free drink or a meal. Seriously what you expect



Feminism is a lost cause and pathetic.

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Originally Posted by Neomarl

For the dozens of you people saying that it's not a big deal because male characters can equip it also; you're wrong. It is not possible to be sexist against men.

And before you think I'm not serious, I assure you I am. How often do you see men offended by other men in skimpy suits? Never.
Now see how often we women get offended by such things, even in video games? Very often, and for good reason. Just look at "Tropes vs. Women" on Kickstarter. She got funded 158k $ because this is a real world problem that needs to stop.
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/...s/posts/242547

And like it or not, there are a lot of us who support such things and won't accept the blatant misogynist characteristics in FFXIV and other video games.

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Forgive my bluntness but...

Are you an idiot?

And in case you aren't aware, stupidity doesn't discriminate with gender.

Thank to Cherelle on Ragnarok server for pointing this out to me, realy interesting that you post about this when you yourself were asking for the swimsuits and here is the link

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...ghlight=bikini

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Originally Posted by mekia

Oh wow really sexism because of some skimpy cloth in a game, really? For crying out loud ever went outside in the summer?
Girl's 14-16 in a bra (boobs falling out) and tight shorts with camel toe.
If women want to whine and bitch about sexism and being "used" maybe don't dress like a slut 24/7. Don't go to bars and show some boobs for a free drink or a meal. Seriously what you expect



Feminism is a lost cause and pathetic.

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You've really been looking at them kiddies haven't you? >.> Dangerous waters.

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Originally Posted by mekia

Oh wow really sexism because of some skimpy cloth in a game, really? For crying out loud ever went outside in the summer?
Girl's 14-16 in a bra (boobs falling out) and tight shorts with camel toe.
If women want to whine and bitch about sexism and being "used" maybe don't dress like a slut 24/7. Don't go to bars and show some boobs for a free drink or a meal. Seriously what you expect



Feminism is a lost cause and pathetic.

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With all due respect, teaching women and girls to loath their bodies and hide them in shame is NOT a feminist idea. Indeed, it is a very classic misogynistic attitude born from the false notion that it is women's fault that men feel attracted to them. Let us also consider that we are not born, nor intended to be clothed by nature.

It is attitude, not attire which denigrates women (or men).

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Originally Posted by AlexNiculaie

With all due respect, teaching women and girls to loath their bodies and hide them in shame is NOT a feminist idea. Indeed, it is a very classic misogynistic attitude born from the false notion that it is women's fault that men feel attracted to them. Let us also consider that we are not born, nor intended to be clothed by nature.

It is attitude, not attire which denigrates women (or men).

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The human form is the most beautiful creation in all of nature. We should not be ashamed of it certainly, but on the other hand, we must not cheapen it by appealing strictly to arousal.

Of course not, but it is pure hyperbole to claim that the developers have done so.

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Originally Posted by AlexNiculaie

With all due respect, teaching women and girls to loath their bodies and hide them in shame is NOT a feminist idea. Indeed, it is a very classic misogynistic attitude born from the false notion that it is women's fault that men feel attracted to them. Let us also consider that we are not born, nor intended to be clothed by nature.

It is attitude, not attire which denigrates women (or men).

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actually with the feminists they are of two minds of it... go figure some oppose it and some don't

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feminist_sex_wars

me the only thing I'm against is if it's not tastefully done which these outfits are fine just could use a bit of tweaking. Though I do like the all black concept. (it at least hides the blood) you would be thinking of a more liberal woman or the "hippy" movements where sex or even the body of any human being wasn't considered a shame but something of beauty like in the
Italian Renaissance time period as well. Or even anything before the middle ages where the concepts of it weren't held in too much of a conservative light even then some cultures still had the belief of conservative women, but I'm talking more of like the greco roman areas and such. Hell during days of the Roman Gladiators sometimes the women even fought topless soooo.....

I consider myself a feminist, but these clothes don't bother me. They're an aesthetic set that you DO NOT HAVE TO WEAR. No one is forcing you to. People can dress this way in real life because they choose to, just as people can dress this way in a video game if they CHOOSE to. This gear set is not something ANYONE will wear in a serious setting. Thus, you will never be pressured to wear it for any reason.