Ishgardian Restoration world visit.

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Originally Posted by xbahax92

Since it appears to be the case, just wanted to point out one thing:

This content is not meant to be finished within a week. And its good like that. Its nice to do lasting content for once and not content being stale after the grind phase.

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This is why content needs time gates. It's a lethal addiction people get where they're allowed to go all out, then get burnt out because gotta go fast.

I have been aching for Tuesday resets for Kai Shirr's custom deliveries. Because I like him, the story, and want to put him in fishnets gosh darn it. But, if I was allowed to from the get go, I would just be one of the many admiring my work for a whole 5 minutes before moving on to the next theme park attraction.

Thanks Yoshi-P for the explanation

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Originally Posted by JamesF

Yeah, with the difference that on Odin, which is the fastest EU server in this restoration, FEW contributions from A LOT of crafters are gonna get you everything done in a week ^^ On our server, on the other hand, it's gonna take A LOT of contributions from FEW people, which in the long run can become not fun at all and just burn us out. In their post SE even recognized there is a disparity in the number of crafters/gatherers, so why not address that too right away?
But hey, I guess scaling the needed points on the population servers was too much to ask.

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The content won't be done in a week even on larger servers. I'm confused where you got the idea that it would be? The supply bar might fill up faster on the larger worlds, but they still have to wait the 8 hours for their fates to spawn, and make all those changes in increments. And given Yoshi-P's reasoning for not confining it to servers in the first place, you can safely bet they'll keep monitoring things and if there are servers seriously struggling with a step later on they'll do something about it. This is their first attempt at content like this... let's maybe cut them a little slack. They're not going to keep anyone from getting their new housing.

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Originally Posted by Kytrin

What do you want them to do? The people who were afk in there previously and got rewards for the fate aren't any different from people who afk in dungeons or other content. Sure, it sucks that you missed the fate. A lot of us did. But they can't track down everyone and punish them individually for being jerks with this. I doubt they would anyway given their history with situations like this and the sheer amount of manpower involved, assuming that's even possible. Which is highly debatable.

And anyway you still got your rewards for turning in the collectibles, and can participate in the fate going forward. It's only been a couple of days since implementation so there's plenty of time to get all of the sweet exp you could want and the 500+ scrips with it. Personally, I think it's great they reacted as quickly as they did. At worst only 6-8 fates per world were affected, depending on timing, before they realized the situation was globally untenable and fixed it. Considering this is content meant for the remainder of the expansion... I am quite satisfied with that outcome.

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Only the people who contributed in restoration can participate in the fate ;)

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Originally Posted by Kytrin

The content won't be done in a week even on larger servers. I'm confused where you got the idea that it would be? The supply bar might fill up faster on the larger worlds, but they still have to wait the 8 hours for their fates to spawn, and make all those changes in increments. And given Yoshi-P's reasoning for not confining it to servers in the first place, you can safely bet they'll keep monitoring things and if there are servers seriously struggling with a step later on they'll do something about it. This is their first attempt at content like this... let's maybe cut them a little slack. They're not going to keep anyone from getting their new housing.

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It was an example, since the person I was answering to said "it's not content to be finished in a week". I know it won't.
Also, you know that during those 8 hours you can keep doing hand ins and still make the bar fill up for later? The difference is that before, during that time, people from larger servers went to do fates on other servers and help them too, now they are gonna keep focusing on theirs going even faster.
And again, I'm not worried about housing, just about the fact that few people are gonna have to work way more than others just because on a smaller servers. There is other content to do, not only the restoration. But yeah, I'm gonna cut them some slack, differently from all the people that filled posts crying for missing a fate that they could have repeated few minutes later on another server for 500 scrips (farmable in 10 minutes if you're level 80).

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Originally Posted by Missifu

Only the people who contributed in restoration can participate in the fate ;)

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Lol, and what about folks who are trying to power level their crafting to 20 or higher so they can turn in collectibles, or turn them in more easily? Or people who want to level their gatherers so they don't have to drop a couple of hundred thousand on mats? Something some of them may not even have. Or even the people who are in the process of unlocking and are simply there at the right time? Even if they had a way to limit it like that, which I very seriously doubt they do, it seems a bit unnecessarily harsh to me.

Personally, I'm just going to be happy that I can participate now, and not worry about anyone else. If some folks want to contribute only via fate... I say let them. They're still contributing by helping with the fate. And there's only 3 in a 24 hour period anyway, so it's hardly the end of the world.

Glad this was the news I woke up to! Good riddance. Now I can farm as much as I want without worrying about being locked out of my own server's firmament later. The vast majority of wanderers were NOT contributing, just afking and hopping from server to server as the fates came up, so let's not pretend otherwise. For crying out loud, most of the posts here mentioned them mocking server natives for not being able to get into their own firmament. This content wasn't meant to be completed in a few days or even a week, so those of your complaining (probably hoppers yourselves...) calm down and contribute. A server based event should have been locked to begin with.

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Originally Posted by JamesF

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I get what your saying, as i saying before you still get scrips, in fact you be able to farm even more scrips now, what they could do however is set a point multiplier based on server classification (or even further set it based on number of crafters lvl20+ on the server).If your on a low pop server can be 4x points to the stockpile compared to larger server that can have 1x multiplier.Perhaps this may help maybe.. maybe not.

Anyway I just noticed that my server (Spriggan) is the only one among ALL servers of the game that still hasn't filled the 2nd progress bar (https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodes...rogress_report). So I kinda understand why people from all the other servers are fine with this change ;)

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Originally Posted by Chrisnetika

I get what your saying, as i saying before you still get scrips, in fact you be able to farm even more scrips now, what they could do however is set a point multiplier based on server classification (or even further set it based on number of crafters lvl20+ on the server).If your on a low pop server can be 4x points to the stockpile compared to larger server that can have 1x multiplier.Perhaps this may help maybe.. maybe not.

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That's exactly what I've been asking in all my posts, we populated a new server after waiting 4 months for a house (which I want to remind to somebody who answered me above is not new content) and now we have to work so much since only few people can contribute. SE can have all the statistics, but our bar actually slowed down a lot after they put this restriction (We're still at 90%, were at 80% 10 hours ago). Yesterday we were doing better than several US servers, now we're the last ones. That can mean two things: other EU servers were actually helping us or just way less people are crafting. Either way, we've been damaged from this change.

I have to agree with the sentiment that there is no rush on finishing. I would MUCH RATHER lag behind globally than not be able to contribute to the building/participate in the FATE. While I understand that there will always be people who are going to be unhappy, I'm personally happy for this change since the sheer amount of anger, frustration and trolling witnessed in the last 24ish hours plunged the entire playerbase into a toxic mindset and I know we're generally happier than that.

I also have to express my gratitude to SE and the devs for acting this quickly and for responding to our concerns. In about 4 hours-ish they let us know they're aware/listening/monitoring the situation and a little over 24 hours they've taken measures most of us were suggesting. So while the fix might not be the *perfect* solution, it is a far sight better than nothing and I appreciate being taken seriously/listened to as a player.
So, THANK YOU for that.

I'm looking forward to working on this with my server-mates and building an Ishgard on our own time, at our own pace. :)