Is dpsing and a healer becoming the standard norm!

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Originally Posted by cgbspender

Ikr, so many "bad" healers on the top 5 world palmares that it's really disturbing. C'mon. Not buying that.

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I didn't say that. You just made it up. I'm explaining that healing is not easy and especially for those who multi task. It require more skills than other jobs. You can complete high level raid by simply healing only, but what about DPS. If you can do both and still keep everyone alive and complete every mechanic. That's when you know you are really good healer. How many players out there play aggresively and manage to do that. Only few people.

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Originally Posted by Melondra

The only reason why healers have the ability to DPS is so they are able to solo content, not to deal DPS in party's. Now if that healer is comfortable and he wishes to do some DPS in there then that's fine he has that ability. But the Healer main job is to heal not to DPS. Did Pre-Alpha/Beata-4 and the reason the job was deigned in this manner was to give the healers the ability to be able to solo content like everyone else. This is why they have the ability to DPS. People really need to stop making jobs into whatever they want and play it as intended.

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If only we hadn't covered this already..

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Originally Posted by Heartley

Here is a screenshot from the Hall of the Novice, Healer section.

http://i.imgur.com/aIAPVbV.png

Did you catch that? Here it is again.

http://i.imgur.com/aIAPVbV.png

One more time!

http://i.imgur.com/aIAPVbV.png

In summary,

http://i.imgur.com/aIAPVbV.png

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It's almost as if...

It's almost as if FF14 as a whole in dungeons, trials, and raids is constructed in such a way that virtually no fight has enough unavoidable damage that a healer should ever be doing nothing but healing unless either they or their party members are screwing up. Thereby making it...more efficient to fill GCDs with DPS abilities in order to clear content faster and more efficiently.

I'm pretty sure if such a crazy idea carried any real weight though that the developers would probably make new players aware in some way though, so I'm probably just day dreaming.

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Originally Posted by Fiaryn

It's almost as if...

It's almost as if FF14 as a whole in dungeons, trials, and raids is constructed in such a way that virtually no fight has enough unavoidable damage that a healer should ever be doing nothing but healing unless either they or their party members are screwing up. Thereby making it...more efficient to fill GCDs with DPS abilities in order to clear content faster and more efficiently.

I'm pretty sure if such a crazy idea carried any real weight though that the developers would probably make new players aware in some way though, so I'm probably just day dreaming.

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Nah, if that were the case they'd probably work it into the story somehow. Maybe give you a class questline entirely about an NPC who only heals and refuses to use offensive spells, and this being a bad and dangerous thing, or something.

Truuuue. Instead we have a story about someone that's killing themselves by using their own aether to cast magic instead of using the aether of the land around them.

It is, in fact, both of those things. To lay it all on the table, if you are unwilling to DPS as a healer you are not good at your job. It has been well known since as far back as 2.0 that healer DPS was not insignificant. There was a time that S-E probably did not realize how significant healer DPS was, but the meta is well recognized at this point and that is reflected in content such as the Hall of the Novice.

Do not waste everyone's time by wasting GCDs when there's no healing to be done.

No, 200 HP shy of full health does not qualify as healing that needs doing.

Except when you're trying to anticipate and time heals that are vital to survival in raids. More often than not back in 2.5 I've had to time heals for T9 just to keep people alive, especially when trying to keep people from getting wrecked by the stack mechanic in Phase 1(and Ravensbeak).

Sure, you can try and help DPS, but you have to know for a fact that your tank will survive the next hit, otherwise they'll use Hello Ground and you know what happens from there. The best way to go about it after doing the raid a couple times(or more in practice) is find safe times to DPS and contribute to the speed of the run, that way you're not creating a dangerous situation for the entire party and have a high potential to wipe. For 4-man, trust your tank. They come in many shapes and sizes but I've seen good tanks ask if they want a big pull or small pull to gauge their healer's preference.

If there is very little damage going out and you are idle for as long as it takes to go into cleric, set up DoTs, then leave cleric, you should have done so.

ABC: Always Be Casting!

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Originally Posted by Thunda_Cat_SMASH

Truuuue. Instead we have a story about someone that's killing themselves by using their own aether to cast magic instead of using the aether of the land around them.

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Her story has elements of her not wanting to use conjury to harm things.

http://imgur.com/oNJDVCH

I wish they made it more obvious. Like:
"HEY, LOOK! NONE OF US ARE GETTING HURT! YOU SHOULD UTILIZE CLERIC STANCE TO IMPROVE YOUR POTENTIAL TO HARM THE ENEMIES OF NATURE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

The healer should not have been raging on the tank but yes if they have time to DPS then they should be rather than waiting to heal and sitting there. Especially in dungeons. Part of healing is finding that time in a fight where they can do some DPS.