So, what now? Lotteries with 150+ bids until... when?

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Originally Posted by Oizen

Man thats reaching, Square Enix does NOT need you to simp for them this hard jesus.
Talk to me when the next raid tier has a .3% chance of even being able to enter the instance.

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These are the arguments you can expect from people who got theirs and are just here to troll with third grader logic. The only response is to laugh at them.

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Originally Posted by anguel

i will believe you there xD number is already too high, for me to even comprehend why would anybody keep participating in the lottery !

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Because if people stop participating then SE will think noone else needs a house.

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Originally Posted by ameliaw

Placard clicking didn't suck that much tbh. I got my personal without botting, and honestly there was no need to camp plots for several hours like people say, as long as you were informed enough about it. Sure it was shit, but lottery is worse. Those who REALLY wanted a house and were willing to put some effort had a huge advantage.
There's only one real fix to this now: instanced housing.

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Exactly this. You were rewarded for dedicating, and before anyone riffs on ppl who used scripts to do it, know that these same people ran a risk of being exploited by retainers selling trash goods and ludicrous prices. This new system demands no effort and gives everybody horrendous chances. I called it, I said before it went live that this system would be trash. Everybody who was defending it kinda looks silly now, don't they

Let's just go back to first come first serve, and turn auto demo back on. Houses can be relinquished then bought immediately. Yes it made a grey market, but people are buying them with gil/rmt anyway, difference now is that those houses go unused for longer. At least with the first come, first serve, the phantom guilds with 10 people who are all alts can't get an edge bidding.

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Originally Posted by Arzalis

Pretty much all this.

Housing systems usually come in two flavors:

1) Instanced and everyone gets one, but it's not in the world itself.
2) In the open world, but has a limited supply.

FFXIV combined the two systems, but literally chose the two negatives. FFXIV housing is both instanced and has limited supply.

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Other games have been combining the two better than SE does for over a decade. Their housing is fully instanced but that instance is a copy of a portion of the game world. Sometimes you enter from the same spot within the game world, sometimes you can teleport there from other locations.

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Originally Posted by Aethoren

Let's just go back to first come first serve, and turn auto demo back on. Houses can be relinquished then bought immediately. Yes it made a grey market, but people are buying them with gil/rmt anyway, difference now is that those houses go unused for longer. At least with the first come, first serve, the phantom guilds with 10 people who are all alts can't get an edge bidding.

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Okay, demolition resumes. Your world gets an additional 36 houses going up for sale. They get purchased. There are still 1900 players trying to get a house.

What now?

The point of auto-demolishing isn't to give everyone a house. It's to ensure dead accounts don't sit on a plot that someone who plays could use. It injects open plots on a constant, but not large, basis. The game still needs more to improve the situation but its better than not having it.

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Originally Posted by Droxybrobotnik

Exactly this. You were rewarded for dedicating, and before anyone riffs on ppl who used scripts to do it, know that these same people ran a risk of being exploited by retainers selling trash goods and ludicrous prices. This new system demands no effort and gives everybody horrendous chances. I called it, I said before it went live that this system would be trash. Everybody who was defending it kinda looks silly now, don't they

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I actually won my house through dedication as in I sat there for hours upon hours clicking. Some people won their house by pure chance, and just by casually checking housing openings and clicking.

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Originally Posted by SturmChurro

I actually won my house through dedication as in I sat there for hours upon hours clicking. Some people won their house by pure chance, and just by casually checking housing openings and clicking.

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Spent 4 hours clicking on a placard when I got my plot, which was a small at the time. I don't miss that at all. x_x

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Originally Posted by SturmChurro

I actually won my house through dedication as in I sat there for hours upon hours clicking. Some people won their house by pure chance, and just by casually checking housing openings and clicking.

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This was me. I needed another house like a hole in the head but it was in a beautiful spot, I was amazed nobody was camping it, and curiosity got the better of me. The first one I won after placard camping and I eventually let it go.

SE management: yes, let the hate of the systems drive you, ignore that you would never have either issue if we just fixed the core system.

Arguing over how we want SE take us over their knee and spank us with their inflexible housing.

I prefer the paddle! No I prefer the belt!!

Orz - certainly one of my salty..er topics but Im not sure I can put word to emotions on how much I wish to never see the ward system like this again ...