They announced how worlds would be shuffled.

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11-19-2018, 08:50 PM
New_Game_Plus

I'm fine with the DC split.
11-20-2018, 04:16 PM
era1Ne

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Originally Posted by MorfineCeres18

So in EU we have populated world on chaos and dead worlds on light.... rip light data center, they just killed it -.-

This couldn't be further from the truth. The EU split is rather good in terms of overall playerbase and raider on each datacenter. Both will have an active playerbase of almost 60k people, while approximately half of them has done the 4.1 story. As for UwU kills, light actually wins with 270 compared to 238.

Sources:https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme...ally_balanced/

Of course these stats could and probably will change in the future, because many will have to make a decision between their friends, fc and statics, but while i understand the issue, lets not panic and believe one of the datacenter will have a very bad time, without looking at facts. If we just panic, then we will create the issue of an uneven split in EU ourself, since we as an community would create the impression that one of the datacenter is far superior, leading many to leave, because they don't want to be on the "loosing" datacenter.
11-20-2018, 04:51 PM
KisaiTenshi

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Originally Posted by Nalien

So would I be correct in assuming the reason behind this is likely the World-Visit feature? I can see that adding extra stress to the servers that would require such a split... If so... Honestly I can live without that feature, when you spirit away half my friends like this it's already a fairly redundant feature anyway... Delay this whole mess until you can work on a cross-data-center feature that effectively removes the negatives of this change...

It's probably inconsequential to it. Like they're probably aiming for a super-server type of setup where your "home" world no longer is really relevant, only the DC you're in. So those home servers just deal with your home character registration, and you're free to roam to other servers as long as there is space. That saves SE some money if that means they don't have to have a bunch of 2.0 zones on every server running completely devoid of players when 5.0 content comes out.

But I still think the way SE is going about this is going to cost them more in support costs and negative PR when players who were away for this come back and wonder why their FC moved without them.
11-21-2018, 02:57 AM
alimdia

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Originally Posted by DamianFatale

Balmung is fine. Stop acting like it’s horrible to be seen with us.

Balmung's bad rep didn't come out of nowhere.
11-21-2018, 03:09 AM
Roda

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Originally Posted by alimdia

Balmung's bad rep didn't come out of nowhere.

Yeah, it came out of the memes people made about their irrational phobias of people who like to RP.
"RPer is innept when not playing pretend" has been a stereotype since the days of D&D somehow being both a psychotic mental illness and a intricate megalomanical cult....

Honestly the ratio of bad eggs I get in dungeons has been comfortably biased towards non-balmung servers for as far back as I can remember.
(but of course anecdotal, blah blah blah..)
11-21-2018, 03:27 AM
Enla

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Originally Posted by Roda

Yeah, it came out of the memes people made about their irrational phobias of people who like to RP.
"RPer is innept when not playing pretend" has been a stereotype since the days of D&D somehow being both a psychotic mental illness and a intricate megalomanical cult....

Honestly the ratio of bad eggs I get in dungeons has been comfortably biased towards non-balmung servers for as far back as I can remember.
(but of course anecdotal, blah blah blah..)

That's pretty much been my experience as well. Started on Greg, moved to Balmung a little later, but most of the bad eggs I've encountered have been from Jenova or Gilgamesh. /However/ just like the people saying most of the bad eggs they've encountered are from Balmung, my experience is the result of a confirmation bias. I just noticed and remembered more of the incidents with the people from those two servers, when there were hundreds of other incidents with randoms from other places I failed to care enough to remember. Hell I started on Greg, I know it's not a bad server and I even went back recently to play around with a friend on an alt account which I'm even more grateful for now. Yet try as hard as I might I can't /stop/ that confirmation bias from creeping up every once in awhile. Even when a few days ago in PVP I got choked up because someone from Gilgamesh said a heartfelt goodbye to everyone they've met on Balmung.

Balmung's reputation is mostly born out of a misconception that everyone there is ERPing 24/7 and that we ignore the content and want to be carried. Which given how many people in this very thread are upset they're losing their static members /from/ Balmung should show that while we're not ss big as Greg or the others, we do have a healthy raid community. Coupled with the fact that we coped the blame for SE refusing to close us down to transfers for well over two years, thus putting the data center into a precarious position born from people genuinely trusting SE that it was alright to transfer, and it was another black mark against the server. I'm not trying to invalidate those who have had genuine issues with people from this server, but Balmung's reputation came from essentially being the Data Center's scapegoat.
11-21-2018, 03:59 AM
WaterShield

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Originally Posted by Atlantasia

Just to add, I know absolutely no one who is planning to transfer to a Crystal DC world, only ones from Crystal DC worlds to Aether DC worlds. :/

I'm moving from Siren (Aether) to the Crystal DC, to stay with my raiding static (Mostly Balmung players). This is hurting people from every data center. I've had long time friends flip out on me for leaving the Server (and FC) all because SE forced people to make a choice. It all leaves a bitter taste.

I'm also losing a medium house in Shirogane from this move.

All in all I couldn't be less hyped for Shadowbringers.
11-21-2018, 08:18 AM
SahreeYurblu

If I read one more "Crystal is going to be filthy RPers and the DEAD servers" post, I'm going to start flipping things. Hello from supposedly dead Goblin, where we somehow managed to raid and get all our ponies and birds before cross server PF was a thing. Does this split hurt? Yes. Do I hate that it's happening? Yes. Do I think it's fair? Hell no. Unfortunately, SE has made a choice that now forces those with friends on servers that are being split up to make their own choices. I'll be in the Crystal PFs looking to get stuff done as usual.

All you Balmung folks are welcome to come visit Goblin. We have our own RP community here too. (I would be awful at it, but my friends/FC mates are awesome.) For those that like raiding AND RP, we just request those RPing as Tenzen be able to help kill the fiery bird. lol.

Sorry, I needed a laugh. Bottom line is, this is what it is. It's happening. It sucks, but healers adjust. Also tanks, and dps and crafters and gatherers adjust.
11-21-2018, 08:26 AM
Zsolen

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Originally Posted by WaterShield

I'm moving from Siren (Aether) to the Crystal DC, to stay with my raiding static (Mostly Balmung players). This is hurting people from every data center. I've had long time friends flip out on me for leaving the Server (and FC) all because SE forced people to make a choice. It all leaves a bitter taste.

I'm also losing a medium house in Shirogane from this move.

All in all I couldn't be less hyped for Shadowbringers.

Are you moving to Balmung or another server? I know it would only be anecdotal, but I'm curious where people might move, should they move to Crystal for raiding or other purposes.
11-21-2018, 08:54 AM
Akonyl

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Originally Posted by SahreeYurblu

If I read one more "Crystal is going to be filthy RPers and the DEAD servers" post, I'm going to start flipping things. Hello from supposedly dead Goblin, where we somehow managed to raid and get all our ponies and birds before cross server PF was a thing.

We managed it, but I'd hardly call it healthy for these. My Gordias group was the third group on Goblin to clear the tier and that was a whole week before Midas dropped, because so many other statics died to the infamous A3S staticbreaker, and there simply weren't enough raiders on the server to pull reps from (which then got compounded more when a decent amount of raiders left to raid on Gilg). Even today, Goblin remains one of the lowest servers in terms of raid clear rates, with 1.2% of the active Goblin pop having the o8s mount in a May survey (only beating Famfrit, Louisoix, and Mateus).

If you didn't have a network of people who wanted to farm them, getting birds was pretty painful too, when there was only ever 1-2 groups up in PF for any sort of content at a time, so yeah I would definitely call the raiding/PF scene pre-3.5 dead. Once 3.5 implemented x-server PF, the difference was night and day.

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