SE's most difinitive statement yet on parsers

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Originally Posted by Gormogon

You can actually see the kind of damage your auto-attacks, dots, and abilities do w/o buffs. You can numbers crunch from there.

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Sorry but i am no cpu that can "crunch numbers" like that on the fly.

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Originally Posted by Gormogon

You can actually see the kind of damage your auto-attacks, dots, and abilities do w/o buffs. You can numbers crunch from there.

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The game doesn't inherently give you any way of telling how much damage your DoT effects do. If you used a parser you would be able to tell though. Why are you even commenting in this thread trying to say content doesn't need it when you don't even do high end content to know whether or not it would be needed? You haven't even beat T6 but you claim to know that people don't need to parse for savage T9? You're basically being an armchair quarterback for a game you have no actual knowledge of (the game being relevant endgame raids.)

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Originally Posted by Appleh4x

The game doesn't inherently give you any way of telling how much damage your DoT effects do. If you used a parser you would be able to tell though.

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This is actually false, all parsers currently have no way of getting DOT damage and instead calculate an estimate, this is the reason people get slightly different results in parses for the same encounter.

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Originally Posted by SongJoohee

This is actually false, all parsers currently have no way of getting DOT damage and instead calculate an estimate, this is the reason people get different results in parses for the same encounter.

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The parser with FFXIV in the name simulates DoTs the one that is three letters actually gets the damage from in game memory. Anyone serious about parsing uses the latter, people only use the former for plugins like that crap radar

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Originally Posted by Buff_Archer

And now that I think of it, why do we even have training dummies but no in game DPS meter, that's like having a car with no speedometer.

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However, I understand the desire to know how much damage you are outputting, and while it will take some time, we’ve been discussing making it so striking dummies measure DPS as well as whether we can add a training activity for new players where you’ll have to deal a certain amount of damage within a certain time. This is how we've decided to address an official DPS meter.

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http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...806-04-2014%29

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Originally Posted by Appleh4x

stuff

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Maybe you should edit it before someone report it.
Praising a not allowed tool and so.

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Originally Posted by Appleh4x

The parser with FFXIV in the name simulates DoTs the one that is three letters actually gets the damage from in game memory. Anyone serious about parsing uses the latter, people only use the former for plugins like that crap radar

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No it doesn't. If you look in-depth into someones parse it even says "Simulated DoTs (Out)", all the dots do the same damage when in-game they have some slight variation like every attack, with adjustments made depending on which buffs and debuffs are up.

Gorgomon trolling another parsing thread when he has zero idea what end game is actually like? Not surprised, It's like I've seen half a dozen threads where he does this.

In each thread it's the same thing. Fight's are just mechanics so it's not that hard and you don't need ridiculous dps! Despite the fact that anyone actually doing end game knows how incorrect such a statement is instantaneously. Seriously guys, stop feeding the troll.

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Originally Posted by SongJoohee

No it doesn't. If you look in-depth into someones parse it even says "Simulated DoTs (Out)", all the dots do the same damage when in-game they have some slight variation like every attack, with adjustments made depending on which buffs and debuffs are up.

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This is a quote from the plugin author on Reddit: " it is real data from the game and not simulated. I did some testing in CT and it performed very well, even with 5+ ground aoes running."

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Originally Posted by Appleh4x

The game doesn't inherently give you any way of telling how much damage your DoT effects do. If you used a parser you would be able to tell though. Why are you even commenting in this thread trying to say content doesn't need it when you don't even do high end content to know whether or not it would be needed? You haven't even beat T6 but you claim to know that people don't need to parse for savage T9? You're basically being an armchair quarterback for a game you have no actual knowledge of (the game being relevant endgame raids.)

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If you can kill a mob fast enough not to wipe, that means DPS is enough, whether some are lower then others isnt important is it not? in a group the collective is important not the individual. One stronger will compensate a weaker, if all are weak it is a fail, and all will know and if you make it well it means that COLLECTIVELY your DPS was enough for it..the one weaker will sooner or later find out if his or her dps is low or not. No need for parsers for it, right ?

The end of the story is...beyond all you say is forbidden, ify ou want to use it and are caught using it and banned dont complain...saying parsers are necessary ..sorry they are not.

Mei

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Originally Posted by Appleh4x

This is a quote from the plugin author on Reddit: " it is real data from the game and not simulated. I did some testing in CT and it performed very well, even with 5+ ground aoes running."

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That was in regards to Flaming Arrow and Shadow Flare ticks.