Can't make a full premade for Crystal Tower...

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Originally Posted by Mirakumi

You'd be surprised how many people pay for a titan win, and that's a waste of time.

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Paying to be carried through Titan for a shiny is not the same as inflicting the Duty Finder on yourself in any capacity.

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Also I did not mean FF11 as the be it all, high and mighty. I played FF11 for a good long time, followed by SW/WoW/Aion/Rift etc. I did not mean anything but simply. Everyday there's numerous of people getting things done and progressing. To think Crystal Towers won't bring any of these people in is silly. If CT offers story - I promise you people will go back from Coil to see it. Or just to say they did it. I know I will be. ^^

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You're missing the point. I don't want to queue with 16 other strangers. I wanted to do this dungeon with friends. Now I can't do that.

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Originally Posted by LiadansWhisper

Paying to be carried through Titan for a shiny is not the same as inflicting the Duty Finder on yourself in any capacity.


I wanted to do this dungeon with friends. Now I can't do that.

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Yes - I know - I want the same. I wanted the same. This morning I was so pissy fit over the changes. My FC over the last week has been recruiting for CT. How are we supposed to tell those people, oh looks like were going to have to split! Yet when you look at it. It's coming in the future. Just have to wait a bit more. I HATE saying that. But its how it is, right now.

And people do tell me all the time in my FC, why do you bother going back to Duty finder with random people / Rather than with people for an instant win ?
I guess because I just think of it as fun. I like to go back and experience it. It helps me be more aware of the situation. I like teaching people. It's so frustrating sometimes, but winning makes it worth it. Idk I'm weird. ;p lol

This is friggin lame.

Basically "Screw all your friends" is what I'm hearing.

It SHOULD work like this:

You can't queue unless you have a full party of 8 (correct jobs) OR a full alliance.

It sounds like a good idea in theory, and I hope for the best, but if people have a lot of friends in this game and want to play with them instead, then you should let them regardless of the content. If I had any RL friends who play this game, or some cool people I've met on my server, then I sure would prefer to play with those people over people i don't know, but again I'm hoping for the best here.

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Originally Posted by Ispen

Vote to kick is coming in 2.1 learn to read please. It's abit silly their doing this, i get they want to promote DF but they shouldn't do it at the expense of FCs that wanna run 24 man groups.

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I'm just curious how it going to work. It obviously looks like it can't be abuse like in games like WoW, but I'm still curious.

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Originally Posted by Verius_Nox

What is wrong with having the option?

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Because you can do any of those dungeons/battles in the Duty Roulette with your friends if you want to. You just don't get the bonuses because you premade your party instead of playing with all randoms.

Ideally playing with friends should allow you to work together, clear the dungeons and earn the rewards faster than you would have by playing with randoms so it's balanced in that regard.

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Originally Posted by Giantbane

Because you can do any of those dungeons/battles in the Duty Roulette with your friends if you want to. You just don't get the bonuses because you premade your party instead of playing with all randoms.

Ideally playing with friends should allow you to work together, clear the dungeons and earn the rewards faster than you would have by playing with randoms so it's balanced in that regard.

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Q36: Can you use with the Duty Roulette with a party of 2-3 people?

A36: This is a feature that can currently only be used solo. We will be updating this in the future to support parties with multiple people.

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The developers see no issue with having the option. They're just failing to implement it in 2.1 with no given reason.

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Originally Posted by Taika

What I expected CT to be was content all our FC members would do. Something that wouldn't require the gear and skill and commitment level Coil does and something that would bring both Coil runners and fresh relic (or even pre-relic) members together. A FC event these members could take part in. These people have already waited for a long time to have any casual endgame raiding content they could do with the FC. Now they get the message they'll be waiting for months more.

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^This, right here. It's beyond disappointing with this game. :\

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Originally Posted by Giantbane

I'm not sure why they *should* make Duty Roulette work with friends. It's a great tool to provide incentive to play and help out random strangers. You don't *NEED* to do the duty roulette to get your weekly myth cap. You can still SR WP with your friends if you like that route. But this gets you helping out others that may need help finding groups for story battles or even just normal dungeon runs.

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So what if you don't need it? Why should one option of content be blocked off from you if you want to play with friends? It shouldn't. This is an MMO. We should not be forced to solo queue for content in an MMO. And yes, the duty roulette is in and of itself content, as it is a new means of obtaining end game tokens. You don't get tokens by doing guildhests or lower level dungeons with your friends, therefore content is blocked from us.

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Originally Posted by DoctorMog

This is friggin lame.

Basically "Screw all your friends" is what I'm hearing.

It SHOULD work like this:

You can't queue unless you have a full party of 8 (correct jobs) OR a full alliance.

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Its suppose to be the casual dungeon they already said this. I don't know why people keep expecting some sort of hardcore must get 24 people to run this. There are a lot of people who aren't in big linkshells that will solo queue for this so it makes no sense to have a minimim requirement to queue for casual endgame content. There is no lockout on this so you can do it as many times as you want.

Wait, they'll implement duty roulette with friends? Wut? To me this sounds like the perfect method to, with some smart programming (Whoops, we're talking SE here) to have high lvls do a daily run in a low lvl dungeon that, at that time, needs people. What the hell is the point when 3/4 spots in said dungeon are taken by high lvls doing the dungeon roulette lol.

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Originally Posted by Zumi

Its suppose to be the casual dungeon they already said this. I don't know why people keep expecting some sort of hardcore must get 24 people to run this. There are a lot of people who aren't in big linkshells that will solo queue for this so it makes no sense to have a minimim requirement to queue for casual endgame content. There is no lockout on this so you can do it as many times as you want.

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It's also supposed to be the big 24 man alliance content. So much for that part huh. It's not must get, it's simply that a lot of FCs had this in mind when they were planning and building and now they suddenly get to hear that part got scratched for now.