Materia System

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Originally Posted by Arch_Blegan

I like this idea, not only does it give ways to upgrade our gear but it removes excess raw materials from the market as well as giving us something to spend gil on.

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Can you please explain what you mean by "remove excess raw material" maybe I'm not understanding the system properly.

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Originally Posted by Mack

Can you please explain what you mean by "remove excess raw material" maybe I'm not understanding the system properly.

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Armor and Weapons are Lost in the creation of Materia. Crafters Use Raw Materials to rebuild stock of those lost.


Also has anyone considered that a Peice of Equipment with materia would gain AP as well and that Materia's stats could be included into the materia crafted out of it?

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Originally Posted by Bled

Materia is Latin for "material", so i don't see what the problem is referring it by its correct meaning.

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Actually, that's another thing I don't like about it, I just didn't think it was relevant enough a point to make in my previous post. But since you brought it up...

It doesn't translate well, since the English word is 'material'. Which is simply an item component used in a crafting recipe.

I think it would be confusing.

"Hey, what are the materials needed to make that item?"
"What? You don't need any materia."
"No, materials."

Abbot and Costello 'Who's On First' wackiness ensues.

Materia is just a strange term that doesn't feel right. It's like you tried to say 'material', but you forgot the 'L'.

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Originally Posted by Rowyne

Actually, that's another thing I don't like about it, I just didn't think it was relevant enough a point to make in my previous post. But since you brought it up...

It doesn't translate well, since the English word is 'material'. Which is simply an item component used in a crafting recipe.

I think it would be confusing.

"Hey, what are the materials needed to make that item?"
"What? You don't need any materia."
"No, materials."

Abbot and Costello 'Who's On First' wackiness ensues.

Materia is just a strange term that doesn't feel right. It's like you tried to say 'material', but you forget the 'L'.

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Now your just pulling crap out of the air.

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Originally Posted by Cairdeas

Now your just pulling crap out of the air.

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LOL, no, I've felt that way since I played FFVII back on the original Playstation many moons ago. The term never felt right, and I'd rather leave it back in FFVII where it belongs.

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Originally Posted by Rowyne

Actually, that's another thing I don't like about it, I just didn't think it was relevant enough a point to make in my previous post. But since you brought it up...

It doesn't translate well, since the English word is 'material'. Which is simply an item component used in a crafting recipe.

I think it would be confusing.

"Hey, what are the materials needed to make that item?"
"What? You don't need any materia."
"No, materials."

Abbot and Costello 'Who's On First' wackiness ensues.

Materia is just a strange term that doesn't feel right. It's like you tried to say 'material', but you forgot the 'L'.

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I guess I'm not seeing your point; Materia are materials, in the literary sense. Are you arguing against the word Materia in its entirety being used in any Final Fantasy title?

EDIT: just saw your above post.

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Originally Posted by Rowyne

LOL, no, I've felt that way since I played FFVII back on the original Playstation many moons ago. The term never felt right, and I'd rather leave it back in FFVII where it belongs.

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Materia was the name of one generation of Crystals from FF7, Just like Magicite was the name of the crystals from the 6th entry. Magicite already had its chance to be used heavily a second time. Its time Materia did.

Crystals (Multiple)
Orbs (Multiple)
Magicite (Multiple)
Materia (Twice)

Let Materia have its chance for a third time.

Its just as much a part of Final Fantasy as Crystals, Orbs and Magicite. The same way that Guardian Forces are summons, Edilons, Aeons, Avatars, and Primals are Summons.

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Originally Posted by Cairdeas

Let Materia have its chance for a third time.

Its just as much a part of Final Fantasy as Crystals, Orbs and Magicite. The same way that Guardian Forces are summons, Edilons, Aeons, Avatars, and Primals are Summons.

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I understand the point you're trying to make, but I'm actually saying something similar (just pointing to a different result). Final Fantasy incorporates different names for common elements depending on what's appropriate for the story. We've already laid down the groundwork with the term 'aetheryte'. I just don't think 'materia' fits into this scheme.

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Originally Posted by Rowyne

I understand the point you're trying to make, but I'm actually saying something similar (just pointing to a different result). Final Fantasy incorporates different names for common elements depending on what's appropriate for the story. We've already laid down the groundwork with the term 'aetheryte'. I just don't think 'materia' fits into this scheme.

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In FF 7 Materia was magical orbs that are placed in special slots on weapons and armor, and that sounds an awful lot like what we will be doing. Further in FF7 Materia are small spheres of crystallized energy, i do not see how that dose not fit in to the game. People are just hung up with seeing the name Materia again, when in reality i don't see the problem seeing as every game borrows terms like magic, and skill points. If the word is accurately used to describe something who cares if it was used in a past title.

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Originally Posted by Rowyne

Actually, that's another thing I don't like about it, I just didn't think it was relevant enough a point to make in my previous post. But since you brought it up...

It doesn't translate well, since the English word is 'material'. Which is simply an item component used in a crafting recipe.

I think it would be confusing.

"Hey, what are the materials needed to make that item?"
"What? You don't need any materia."
"No, materials."

Abbot and Costello 'Who's On First' wackiness ensues.

Materia is just a strange term that doesn't feel right. It's like you tried to say 'material', but you forgot the 'L'.

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Yea safe to say you're the only one who is going to have any trouble with this lol.