FF14 director Yoshida asks fans not to “attack” Wuk Lamat actress

What tweets did Susan like?

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Originally Posted by AnimaAnimus

I feel the same way. I hate Graha Tia, with a passion, but that doesn't make me a homophobe. And if it does that would be weird anyway since I am super gay. But even in the lgbtq community it's difficult to criticise something that involves a trans person because you are immediately accused of being a transphobe. It's really frustrating for those of us who have been on the front lines of movements and activism for decades, with many close friends and sometimes family members who are trans, to suddenly be called a transphobe by some, usually straight usually cis, person for not liking a project that involves someone who is trans. While there is transphobia going on here, it's by a minority of ppl talking about her performance.

Sena is just a horrible person and while Yoshida was in the right to say no one should attack her, I think SE needs to put her in check. However, I have seen this many times, and as someone who uses her identity as a shield (to the detriment of her whole community) I am sure she would try to start some sort of campaign against SE. Because she is one of those ppl who cannot take criticism, knows their talent is iffy, is lacking in personal agency and uses every metaphoric weapon in their arsenal they can to feel powerful.

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I mean, you're at least respecting her pronouns, which is more than some of the posters in this thread. So thank you for that.

You can dislike a person and still give them that base level of humanity. You can think someone is a terrible voice actor and still call them by their chosen name. And even if you don't hate Wuk Lamat's character, or recognize that many of the flaws in DT's English acting this go round were due to bad voice direction more than anything else, you can still think the VA is being unreasonable on Xitter and block her.

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Originally Posted by Kusanagi7

What tweets did Susan like?

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I won't link examples and such because I'm afraid of that causing this thread to veer heavily off topic.

Ultimately, she committed the great sin of liking tweets from people that disagree with woke ideology.

Hopefully, that tips you off and answers your question well enough. If not, you can easily find them. Again, I just want to at least try to keep this thread on track.

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Originally Posted by Catwho

I mean, you're at least respecting her pronouns, which is more than some of the posters in this thread. So thank you for that.

You can dislike a person and still give them that base level of humanity. You can think someone is a terrible voice actor and still call them by their chosen name. And even if you don't hate Wuk Lamat's character, or recognize that many of the flaws in DT's English acting this go round were due to bad voice direction more than anything else, you can still think the VA is being unreasonable on Xitter and block her.

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Oh my soyence.

It genuinely blows my mind how Susan was thrown under the bus so easily and readily after being victim to a harassment campaign, all because she liked a few conservative tweets last year. What's worse to me is how she's had her association with Distant World's removed still to this day but for the Rising event in game her vocals were still being used when you visit the Aft Castle in Limsa.

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Originally Posted by CuteBucket

I'm tired of all this culture war nonsense...

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...but then you engage in it?
I mean, I agree with you for the most part, but I also agree with Vensaval above me that this side of the conversation is pointless, off topic and - to add my two cents - dumb.

Neither side's worldviews are gonna magically change by the other side telling them they are wrong on a video game forum. It's not how it works!

If anyone feels someone else has crossed the line - the report button is readily available and mods can decide if lines have been crossed. These threads have been regularly cleaned up, actually.


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Anyways, back on topic, I decided to check out Sena's twitter and recently it's been mostly tame, I guess? Perhaps someone at SE finally had a word with her.

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Originally Posted by Catwho

I mean, you're at least respecting her pronouns, which is more than some of the posters in this thread. So thank you for that.

You can dislike a person and still give them that base level of humanity. You can think someone is a terrible voice actor and still call them by their chosen name. And even if you don't hate Wuk Lamat's character, or recognize that many of the flaws in DT's English acting this go round were due to bad voice direction more than anything else, you can still think the VA is being unreasonable on Xitter and block her.

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Honestly you are deflecting, because like I said, many ppl are respecting her pronouns and calling her by her chosen name and still being lumped with the transphobes for criticising her performance. You even thanked me for using correct pronouns as if I am one of them, completely ignoring absoultey everything else I said so you could say something about treating her with respect and then placing the blame entirely on poor direction. And I do not believe that excuse for a minute. And why do you do that? To feel rightous? To feel like a good person?

And honestly I do not want to just ignore her because she is doing grievious damage to the entire movement with her shocking bad statements. Stop making excuses for bad people and stop telling us we are bad ppl for not doing the same.

If you really care about trans people and the lgbtq+ community, you would hold those of us in lgbtq+ community to the same standards of conduct you do everyone else. Holding someone above criticism due to their identity is just as transphobic, homophobic, sexist, racist, etc as the ppl here misgendering. Full stop.

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Originally Posted by Kusanagi7

What tweets did Susan like?

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She had the audacity of following/liking tweets that weren’t woke enough in this day and age so ofc the woke mob effectively “cancelled” here career. Well it’s kinda sad that this only happens if the person isn’t in a specific save “group” because as we can see from Wuk Lamats VA it’s ok being racist, hating women and being in general a vile piece of scum as long as you are a LGBTQ member. If any non LGBTQ VA had done this I guarantee that the woke mob would be all over this and would demand that heads roll.

I miss the time when any video game related stuff was about passion and joy of creating something people will love and enjoy and not pushing of “The Message” in my hobby that I just wanna use too escape the real life. I’m just too old for this kind of crap every single time the person doing subpar work is LGBTQ and therefore any criticism must be whateverphobic

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Originally Posted by AureliusIX

What's worse to me is how she's had her association with Distant World's removed still to this day but for the Rising event in game her vocals were still being used when you visit the Aft Castle in Limsa.

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Source?

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Originally Posted by Willemdarke

Anyways, back on topic, I decided to check out Sena's twitter and recently it's been mostly tame, I guess? Perhaps someone at SE finally had a word with her.

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Most of the time her tweets are tame. Yes, she has made some silly and bad takes, however that's all that ever gets posted so anyone who doesn't even use Twitter just sees one side of the coin and never the "boring, tame, daily fluff, who cares?" side. Easier to rile people up and spread hate, you know?

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Originally Posted by AnimaAnimus

And honestly I do not want to just ignore her because she is doing grievious damage to the entire movement with her shocking bad statements. Stop making excuses for bad people

If you really care about trans people and the lgbtq+ community, you would hold those of us in lgbtq+ community to the same standards of conduct you do everyone else.

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*Clap* Brilliantly said and this actually echoes something I posted earlier in the thread:

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Originally Posted by Willemdarke

Within our own LGBTQ community we are actually pretty quick to call out problematic people be they artist, drag performers, or other public figures, because:
#1 Within the community, we can't and don't get labeled homo/transphobe, so we don't fear expressing our non-LGBTQ-related values and following a moral code we believe in and
#2 Those bad public apples represent us still and so they bring unneeded negativity to our whole community.

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