Lack of End Game Content

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Envoyé par Kaylessa

Welp, it seems someone doxed Scottzone's home address and sent him a death threat also. So for the people who doubted whether Lazy Peon received death threats yes, like most gaming communities, there is a small section of fans who are rabid and outright disgusting in their sick devotion to their favorite video game. This community isn't immune from that.

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Going off-topic, do realize that celebrities and many people who work in public receive death threats.

Like every person on the view has probably received a death threat by now.

I agree that the FF community isn't immune from such behaviour, but Scott and perhaps others need to learn what it means to make yourself a public figure.

A death threat to someone well known is different when sent to someone private that is unknown by the general public - because it means it likely came from someone who knows them personally.

Asmongold, for example, probably has gotten many death threats, and perhaps even Yoshi-P.

We don't hear about it because they know what being a public figure entails and have effectively learned to ignore such things.

Being a celebrity can be very fun on the way up, as you gain followers and non-stop positive.

But it's the ones that can handle the criticism that learn to survive. It requires a very thick skin.

Perhaps for the first time ever, Scott is experiencing a reaction that is more negative than usual. His video even still has more likes than dislikes.

Scott is the person who had decided to focus on the negativity (loss aversion effect), and there's a good chance he will fail in this buisness unless he learns how to move forward.

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Envoyé par Kaylessa

Welp, it seems someone doxed Scottzone's home address and sent him a death threat also. So for the people who doubted whether Lazy Peon received death threats yes, like most gaming communities, there is a small section of fans who are rabid and outright disgusting in their sick devotion to their favorite video game. This community isn't immune from that.

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Who would have thought that this community can't take any criticism toward their beloved game. And I thought FF14 community is the best in regards to being friendly towards new people. A damn shame really.

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Envoyé par Forever_Learning

Going off-topic, do realize that celebrities and many people who work in public receive death threats.

Like every person on the view has probably received a death threat by now.

I agree that the FF community isn't immune from such behaviour, but Scott and perhaps others need to learn what it means to make yourself a public figure.

A death threat to someone well known is different when sent to someone private that is unknown by the general public - because it means it likely came from someone who knows them personally.

Asmongold, for example, probably has gotten many death threats, and perhaps even Yoshi-P.

We don't hear about it because they know what being a public figure entails and have effectively learned to ignore such things.

Being a celebrity can be very fun on the way up, as you gain followers and non-stop positive.

But it's the ones that can handle the criticism that learn to survive. It requires a very thick skin.

Perhaps for the first time ever, Scott is experiencing a reaction that is more negative than usual. His video even still has more likes than dislikes.

Scott is the person who had decided to focus on the negativity (loss aversion effect), and there's a good chance he will fail in this buisness unless he learns how to move forward.

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Its different when you get targeted at your home address and you live with others since you need to worry about their safety too.

Other streamers probably don't have their personal details outlined directly in these threats and if they do I have no idea how they can just continue doing what they do without caring.

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Envoyé par Jojokomoko

Who would have thought that this community can't take any criticism toward their beloved game. And I thought FF14 community is the best in regards to being friendly towards new people. A damn shame really.

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Indeed... A whole lot of people making generalizations here...
"All hardcore raiders are toxic", "casuals should just stfu" and "a handful people doxxing a YouTuber means "Great community btw""

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Envoyé par Jojokomoko

Who would have thought that this community can't take any criticism toward their beloved game. And I thought FF14 community is the best in regards to being friendly towards new people. A damn shame really.

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Excuse me? Where did it say in the contract that I must agree 100% with everything scottzone says?

Where did it say I am no longer allowed to disagree?

The FF14 community isn't a bunch of sheep that blindfully agrees with whatever is stated to them.

People have free will, they have a brain, and when they disagree with something, they have every right to state their disagreement.

If you criticize something, and are then upset when people disagree, it means you can give it, but you can't take it!

FF14 probably has more content than most MMO. The problem is that this content is spread "horizontally" across many different activities, rather than focuses "vertically" on just a few like WoW does.

WoW is/was a great game, but there was never much to do in it beside World Quest/Dailies, dungeons, raiding and PvP.

It is awesome if that is what you enjoy obviously. It sucks if you don't though.

FF14 is different, it's awesome if you enjoy doing all the different activities it offers. In many ways if you like to do a little bit of everything, FF14 has too much content.

On the other hand, if you just focused on a few activities, or "progression", you're not going to be satisfied as it doesn't have a lot of content.

As someone who enjoys crafting and gathering, I'm highly disappointed that they removed the Job quests and replaced them with the Crystarium Deliveries that consolidate the Job quest in group of 3 or so.

Maybe if the quality were superior to having individual Job quests, I could accept it, but they are not. They are on par, or inferior.

I wish SE had more resources to give everyone more of what they like, but that's not the case. Everyone is getting the short stick here.


The reason a lot of people gets defensive when someone ask for more content in a specific area, is that they are aware that SE isn't going to put more resources into the game and that more content in specific area is going to come at the cost of content somewhere else.

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Envoyé par Losara

Its different when you get targeted at your home address and you live with others since you need to worry about their safety too.

Other streamers probably don't have their personal details outlined directly in these threats and if they do I have no idea how they can just continue doing what they do without caring.

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Yeah, they do. There are even books printed with where celebrities live and everything.

In Miami, there is even a tour that tells you how to go to all the different houses (gated, secluded, but you know the address)

A very determined person, with a few details, could also work it out.

I honestly doubt Scottzone has his home address just posted for everyone; more likely a very determined person worked it out.

How do they continue doing what they do without caring? Because they know it's part of the buisness I assume.

If he were to tell another popular content creator, like thequatering, that he received a death threat, the response would be 'welcome to the club'

In the recent taliesin vs. asmongold debacle, Heelvsbabyface talked about how he gets negative things all the time.

I was honestly unaware, because he basically never discusses it and admitted he just ignores it, meanwhile his subs go up up up.

Heck, asmongold has whole threads just discussing how horrible he is, as well as videos.

Asmongold often ignores it, but is also very smart - he shows it on this stream, they laugh about the people, and he gains 200 more subs.

Ever see those videos with celibrities where they read the mean comments about themselves and laugh - these people get it.

It's not for everyone.

Many people choose to actually avoid such work because they know those are the possible consequences and learned to deal with them.

It's called being the price of a celebrity, the price of fame, as they say. I dislike that people do it, but it's common knowledge that it's commonly done.

How many death threats do you think Trump or Sanders every day? You don't seem them quitting.

Scottzone is entering a level of popularity he's never encountered before (who knew about him a year ago?) and will need to learn to sink or swim.

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Envoyé par Forever_Learning

Excuse me? Where did it say in the contract that I must agree 100% with everything scottzone says?

Where did it say I am no longer allowed to disagree?

The FF14 community isn't a bunch of sheep that blindfully agrees with whatever is stated to them.

People have free will, they have a brain, and when they disagree with something, they have every right to state their disagreement.

If you criticize something, and are then upset when people disagree, it means you can give it, but you can't take it!

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Scottzone didn't get upset when people disagreed, he's fine with discussion.

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Envoyé par Kaylessa

Scottzone didn't get upset when people disagreed, he's fine with discussion.

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He posted an entire video where the entire focus was on the criticism he received during his stream.

Meaning, he had a conversation on stream where he disagreed with people.

Instead of just moving on, he posted a 12 minute video re-hashing the whole argument, along with a complain that people can't take MMO criticism.

Then, he also posts on Twitter about it:
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Despite gushing about Final Fantasy for months, saying I think it does an incredible job at providing large amounts of content for a variety of players. A small criticism on a personal feeling towards packaged raid content and people think I'm asking for WoW 2.0?
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It's now been almost three days, and he hasn't posted a single video, or made a single tweet, and he's streamed less.

To me, these are all signs of someone that got triggered and is having difficulty moving on.

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Envoyé par Forever_Learning

Excuse me? Where did it say in the contract that I must agree 100% with everything scottzone says?

Where did it say I am no longer allowed to disagree?

The FF14 community isn't a bunch of sheep that blindfully agrees with whatever is stated to them.

People have free will, they have a brain, and when they disagree with something, they have every right to state their disagreement.

If you criticize something, and are then upset when people disagree, it means you can give it, but you can't take it!

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I'm sorry if I came off kind of heated, but I just saw him breakdown over at his steam due to a death threat. Disagreement is fine, but when it comes down to sending death threat and calling names (Just look at his Youtube comment on the video), this is where the line should be drawn. "Go play another game" "Go back to WoW" "It's your fault, not the game" "You have no life if you're running out of things to do" Just looking at this thread for crying out loud. People can't even give a legitimate criticism here.