Block first timers from Party Finder!

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Originally Posted by Mychael

And bad players will continue to join open groups, whether they've cleared or not. New ≠ Bad, Experienced ≠ Good.

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Thing is they joining parties without filling the requirements that the PF creater has asked for, it only takes a minute to ask the PF leader and explain there situation and give the party leader the choice of taking them along or not. If they agree and it's a disaster, they went in knowingly. It's polite to ask first, it's not when someone enters a party asking for clear experience and doesn't say anything until the party enters the content and the bonus tomes message shows up. How much of an impression do you tink that will leave when they find out who it is? Not to mention wasting peoples time.

It wont stop run buyers and those who get carried joining, but it would reduce it. Also it may have the knock on benefit of more players joining learning parties if they know they can't sneak into a farm party to get their clear. As I can imagine their thought process of being something like "Why should I spend time wiping on learning the content when I can just sneak into a farm party and get the others to do it for me?"

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Originally Posted by Sapphic

It wont stop run buyers and those who get carried joining, but it would reduce it. Also it may have the knock on benefit or more players joining learning parties if they know they can't sneak into a farm party to get their clear.

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I couldn't agree more. I'm not saying there isn't a problem, just that nothing could be changed in the Party Finder that would actually fix it. Bad players will continue to find ways to sneak into your group.. I see so many 'bad' people in groups and it has nothing to do with the first time clear. A lot of new (to the content) players have studied every guide available and will outperform others.

Don't get me wrong, an "Experienced Players Only" checkbox on the PF could help, but it's <10% of the problem. If only there could be a "Don't Suck" checkbox--but people would ignore it just like they do the current ones.

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Originally Posted by Mychael

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I love the point you brought up about new to content players studying and outperforming "experienced" players here are one examples..

Was having a crappy day farming ravana as the farm parties were worse then learning ones....

I tried one last party which had "Ravana ex farm pt, bonus are welcomed if they know the fight" I thought hmmm might go bad but why not try.....go in 5 of the ppl are bonus, I fear for my life lol but needless to say we killed him 5 consecutive times after clearing him the first time which has completely changed my side of this argument...I prefer the skilled and knowledgeable over just a clear....sorry but the proof is in the horrible farm parties XD

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Originally Posted by Pyroxene

It's established that Duty Finder is a random thing

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Do you know the difference between Duty Finder (not what this thread is about) and Party Finder (what this thread is about)?

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Originally Posted by Moonleg

Do you know the difference between Duty Finder (not what this thread is about) and Party Finder (what this thread is about)?

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Narcissistic comments aside. I misread, my apologies

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Originally Posted by Mychael

And bad players will continue to join open groups, whether they've cleared or not. New ≠ Bad, Experienced ≠ Good.

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Thank you for stating the obvious. But what does your comment have to do with the thread.

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Originally Posted by Sapphic

Tell players if they don't want new players in there party to not use DF and set up a PF party. Yet when they set up a PF party asking for experienced players they are getting new players joining without asking or saying anything.

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You forgot the part where you get accused of being an elitist prick simply because you'd like to farm for awhile. xD

How does this thread get to 32 pages?
As someone has probably said, add a checkbox for when you're creating a PF group that locks out people who haven't cleared the content yet. People who want to farm can check the box, people who want to clear get leave it alone.

We get it, having the clear doesn't always mean the person is any good, but at least this gives you the choice in whether you want to run that risk or not, the only people this change would effect would be those people who jump into farm groups who clearly state no tome bonus, and then watch as the group falls apart because when you go in, someone has a tome bonus and refuses to admit it was them.

Dunno how anyone could be opposed to this, it has zero drawbacks and just lets people control their OWN group a little better.

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Originally Posted by Jamein

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It's literally the only thing that the OP has asked for....

There has been a ton of discussion about how this is somehow elitist or something.

Yeah I don't get it either.

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Originally Posted by Kallera

Ok, I guess the title got to me. I've kinda wondered about preventing this in certain runs, but didn't want to be rude to people in game. I'm sorry to the OP.

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No worries, I completely understand about the title, I've petitioned to have it changed myself, another player also did for me, and I changed it via editing but unfortunately it hasn't changed. The thread itself explains in more detail what I'm asking for :)