So Second Coil has been destroyed

Know what I would like to see in the future? FCoB will inevitably be nerfed. Before patching in the nerf, SE should preserve the original difficulty first. This gets released as another raid. Said raid would have all the current mechanics, no echo, and ilevel sync. They seem to be getting the hang of programming ilevel sync if High Level Roulette is any indication.

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Originally Posted by Nel_Celestine

T minus 5 days until raiders don't give two craps about these nerfs to second coil.

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Personally, I don't even care. I'm just laughing at how (over)nerfed things are. Just think of all the stupid things you can do with the renauds now (great for videos!).

Without these nerfs, a players biggest challenge is not clearing a turn but finding a party with the knowledge of the battle necessary to clear a turn!

Savage coil remains untouched. So if you want a challenge, you'll do these.

Should be fun... though I loved T7 as it was. Lot's of laughs one way or another... someone stones mt at 9% and it's a wipe... the tears and laughter. Good memories. As for T6... I'd prefer T5 to it... prob most annoying of all the fights. Titan ex is easier and more fun.

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Originally Posted by AiChyan

I expected a nerf, but not the severe. I wished I could do through this whole thing in its original state or slight nerf.. but what to do.

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Do Savage :)

goodluck

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Originally Posted by Laraul

Without these nerfs, a players biggest challenge is not clearing a turn but finding a party able to help clear a turn!

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Fancy that, interacting with people in an MMO.

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Originally Posted by Rieze_Xeero

Do Savage :)

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People who say "do savage" obviously haven't set foot in there... probably because you still haven't cleared T9. It's far from the same thing.

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Originally Posted by Ellatrix

Fancy that, interacting with people in an MMO. People who say "do savage" obviously haven't set foot in there... probably because you still haven't cleared T9. It's far from the same thing.

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It's hard as Hell as they say although haven't tried it savage yet but since there is a change I want to try it now, I hope i find a party for it. My FC mate said its harder than fcob. My point if you want challenge there is always that and I'm guessing, when they nerf fcob in the future they will have a savage for fcob too.

Only shows you don't want casuals to have their time for scob lol

People still don't get how things work in mmo business? With the coming of new content old content always gets nerfed in order to make things easier for the new/casual players so they can catch up a bit the the rest. I see no problem with this. The same happened when they nerfed Titan HM with echo ppl came here and cried that now its too easy. Same again with loot in CT and the same with 1st Coil got echo. Stop crying and get over with it. New content = nerfed old content. So move to the new things and let the old outdated dungeons for the new players and casual players.

I personnally think the nerfs are finally tuned. There is not a single solution to please everybody. It is nice that SCoB can open to a more wide population. I clearly understand that it is frustrating to not being able to still enjoy the fights as they were, but savage is still there.

If you compare the state of SCoB as it is now compared to the first coil of bahamut post nerf for the average PF/DF, T6-8 will still be way tougher than what T1-4 was.
At that time:
T1 was already a no brainer, and the feeding mecanics were already nearly ignored by most group.
T2 was enrage method 100% of the time and paralyze was nerfed to hell.
T4 mecanics were also trivialized the dps increase and the nerf to reflected damage.

But you can still mess up with devour in T6, you can still easily wipe the raid in T7 etc... There are still way more punishing mecanics in SCoB, even if the nerf is here and real.

In the end, we need to accept heterogeneous nature of the community and stop being elitist by being less selfish and accept changes.

With a such big major and incredible nerf to scob, I for one doesn't want to see anymore complain-threads in the near future about its difficulty on this forum :mad:

On a side note, I'm not going to cry over the sad fact that the last 6 months of efforts on scob re getting wasted that quickly since, as a raiders, we re but the minority, our money/fidelity doesn't count much it seems :confused: or.... Maybe it actually do? Over the last months, serious threads on both JP and EN forums were talking about the abuse of one-shot mechanics in scob, there :rolleyes:, it's fixed now.