FFXIV 6.0 comes out December 7th. Pre-release is December 3rd

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Originally Posted by Zanarkand-Ronso

If it was just Mild Venting, there would be no issue. Im not attacking people for being upset and disappointed at the Delay itself. Its the people who want to go to the extremes or be unfair about it, just because they are disappointed.
Stuff like the company is unreliable or "this is the Final Straw" and saying never trust a company (paraphrasing) arnt constructive.

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Of which you and I would be of the same opinion here. Those aren’t the comments I’m referring to when I talk about the constructive ones.

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Originally Posted by ForteNightshade

Frankly, the only one sounding triggered right now by my response is you.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWdd6_ZxX8c

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Originally Posted by TaleraRistain

If you want to make THIS argument, their track record was that while they did delay things, they communicated those delays well ahead of the time they planned to release them despite what was going on in the world. It was not unreasonable at all to expect this late in the game that a delay would have already been communicated, since that had been their pattern. And reading through the thread, that's one of the main points of contention.

I will also agree with a lot on this thread about how condescending you're being. I don't work in game development, but I do work in software. And if we don't make our deadline and don't communicate delays in a timely fashion to our customers or shareholders, that is on us and we take our licks for it. The devs don't deserve insults for it but people can be disappointed and even Yoshi-P himself acknowledged that this may have let people down or degraded their confidence in the team.

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LOL if condescending is telling people that had they considered certain things, they may not have been upset. Thats a big oof and yikes. They knew about it 1 week ago that gives everyone here 3 weeks to reschedule. That still isnt enough. Is it?

If having a game delayed 2 weeks, degrades people confidence in the dev team. Thats a yikes. 2 weeks or 3 weeks wouldn't have made a difference to really anyone. So really? What would you rather, them delay it for like 6 weeks til they can allow people to change their schedules.

It's software and things happen. The blowback they wouldve received wouldve been 10 times worse had they just released it broken. Cause you know FF just had big influx of players, and Endwalker is going to be some peoples first impression. They either get it right or get screwed. Not to mention literally what would have happened to their share holders. If

Also Condescending? Welcome to FFXIV Forums. Where people bullied devs into bunny boys. Lmao. Also not alot. Lmao.

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Originally Posted by Vahlnir

I'm kinda thinking that they might add All Saints Wake as scheduled, since they didn't announce any delays to the seasonal events.

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It was scheduled 11/30 right? I couldn't watch the whole live letter. They didn't say anything about the events? it was just the road from 6.0 to 6.05?

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Originally Posted by LisSquid

Just to throw my two cents into this. I have never scheduled time off for expansion launches until now. I have a pretty active social life and a lot of obligations that it made more sense to take time off for other things. However, I have been in lockdown since the start of covid. I live in an area that has a lot of travel, and I work with the public. This has meant that I am just not safe to be around my family (many are older or are in high risk groups) or friends (for the same). It's been rough, and for the first time it felt appropriate to spend those hours on a video game.

It's a really silly opinion to throw around when people keep repeating that their frustration comes from SE waiting to announce the delay on a Live Letter two weeks before the original launch date. At that point it doesn't really matter the ifs and whys when it was just a poor choice on SE's part.

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If your just simply disappointed and upset, there is no harm in that. Heck I expressed earlier in the thread that I myself am disappointed, cause if you knew my IRL, I wouldn't shutup about the 1st EW Teaser before the theme song even had lyrics!
I have no issues with people being upset.
My issue is the people who wanna come at them and say stuff like the Company is unreliable and stuff like that, over a 2 week delay. My opinion doesn't change that I think PTO could/should be spent on something better then a Videogame, but its not like my Opinion carries any weight, and its humorous how people wanna resist and fight an opinion that opposes them.

In all seriousness, Im sorry that Covid has hit you hard in your part of the World. But (And this isn't targeted at you, unless I forgot your post) that doesn't warrant people saying unfair things to the company like threatening to pull support. Just because they used PTO to play a videogame and things didnt go as planned. Like they will never have a chance to play a game again.

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Originally Posted by Anonicat

If having a game delayed 2 weeks, degrades people confidence in the dev team. Thats a yikes.

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Did you even watch the stream? Yoshi-P himself acknowledged that his actions in delaying for (his own admission) of selfish reasons could have degraded trust in the development team and he apologized for it. So you're basically saying that the developer being painfully aware of the results of his own actions and expressing empathy for the position of his consumers is wrong.

I was already seeing tons of DCs (Including multiple on my end) during the early days of the tomestone event, so it seemed pretty clear the servers would need more improvements to ensure things wouldn't go to heck on Endwalker's release.

It is what it is, Getting upset won't help.
Think of this postpone like brewing a wine, more time, better taste.

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Originally Posted by Anonicat

It's software and things happen. The blowback they wouldve received wouldve been 10 times worse had they just released it broken. Cause you know FF just had big influx of players, and Endwalker is going to be some peoples first impression. They either get it right or get screwed. Not to mention literally what would have happened to their share holders.

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I just want to clarify on this part that it was not a software-related reason that the expansion was delayed. Part of it was server stability issues that came up during QA, and they want more time to test the servers. This was stated in the PLL. But another part was Yoshida outright admitting that he was fine-tuning lore details and details “only he would notice”. This changes a lot of things. It wasn’t a software bug that delayed the expansion. And a delay is also likely to have its own set of negative impact on the newbies, in all fairness.

I don’t think EW would have come out as “broken”. At least not to the extent that this game has seen—I do think the devs and SE learned their lesson the very hard way with 1.0, and they would never even announce a release date had EW been in that state. At most, I was kind of expecting SB early acces problems: disconnects, maybe another Raubahn Savage/Pipin EX, Duty Finder crashing from overload/the MSQ having an instance literally 3 quests in. But it was still relatively playable.

I’m as big a nerd as there is, and to say I’ve been looking forward to this release is a huge understatement… that said.. to plan my life around it? Certainly not. This is not to make fun of those who did, I’m just saying for me, the game is going to be there whether I clear it day one or day 100. I’d rather take my limited days off and take the kids camping, or something.

Again, for those of you who did plan so heavily, sorry for that..but at the same time, what’s the rush?