Nope you didn't add enough plots SE...

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Originally Posted by Terin

- Let's face it; there IS and WILL ALWAYS BE a "Housing market". So why not give players a "House Deed" as a tradable item, allowing a more legitimized form of selling or even trading houses? If anything, I would love this, as I would LOVE to be able to trade my house for one that is next to my dad's, even if it's in a less-desirable location.

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New job/tradeskill - Eorzean Real Estate Broker.

While this sounds like a good idea this will make the RMT scene even worse than it is.

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Originally Posted by MsMisato

New job/tradeskill - Eorzean Real Estate Broker.

While this sounds like a good idea this will make the RMT scene even worse than it is.

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Worse? Like seriously how worse can it get? I was doing a low level MSQ quest last week. I could not even see Komuxio, was blanked out by all the bots. Lucky they go underground really fast. Also almost no one in the zone so didn't cause a zone lockout. SE is very lax on bots and RMT and allow tonnes of gil into circulation.



I don't think at this point RMT could be used as a legitimate excuse. Housing has way to many other problems though besides RMT.

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Originally Posted by MsMisato

New job/tradeskill - Eorzean Real Estate Broker.

While this sounds like a good idea this will make the RMT scene even worse than it is.

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Problem is, people are clearly circumventing any intention by simply "selling Free Companies with house". For many players, that is their only recourse for actually TRYING to get a house. There's no doubt, the Devs had good intentions, but players who want a house (which is clearly a lot of them, for good reason: FFXIV has a pretty awesome housing system!), they're obviously going to find any sort of workaround they can exploit.

If they wanted to nip it in the bud, then they could at least make my proposed changes to "Free Company housing". That would render it literally impossible to "trade" or "sell" houses. I personally prefer the ability to sell/trade houses, since I recognize I got EXTREMELY lucky to have gotten a house, and were I still without one, I would probably be incredibly frustrated I would have to rely ENTIRELY on luck to acquire one. At least by allowing players to Sell or Trade the deed to a plot, it gives players SOME kind of outlet. Heck, maybe it could include an additional gold-sink (ie. "Transferring ownership of a house incurs an additional 1mil fee from each party" or something like that).

Also, something else I wouldn't mind seeing added:

- Removing the "RANDOM timer" for Players without houses already. It's cool to give Home-owners a little extra priority to Relocate to a new plot, but I feel like it should be a static timer. Whether it's something short like a 2-hour window, or even something crazy like a 24-hour window, I don't think players should be stuck waiting around and clicking on a sign, HOPING to purchase a house for HOURS ON-END. Make it a static timer, and SHOW that timer, so players can actually enjoy their time without stressing out. "Okay, that house isn't going to even be AVAILABLE to purchase for another three hours, I'll just set an alarm and check back like 5 min before the timer expires, and then home for the best".

Frankly, the current system is just incredibly stress-inducing, and I don't see any reason why a static, visible timer would be a bad idea. Although if there is a reason, let me know! I might just not be thinking clearly, haha.

At 25 minutes in, Balmung still had a couple of smalls left in the new wards that took people about an additional 10 minutes or so to distinguish from the ones that already had timers from people moving. I didn't see how long it took for the mediums and larges to go, but I suspect it was within a minute or two.

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Originally Posted by Vickii

Relocating is a huge part of the problem. They opened these for new players, not so you could move house.

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On Balmung, the number of moved houses on Balmung is in the order of roughly 20 or so per housing region. So roughly about 80 or so people moved. Compared to the 720 new plots, moving is not a major contribution to any of this. Particularly when you consider that the plots they moved from become available, albeit with a timer.

Edit: The house next to my FC house came up so I ended up moving to it from the Lavender Beds about an hour ago. It's still just a small, but now I don't have to pick and choose which house to hang out at anymore. I'll miss the Lavender Beds plot, because it was in my top 2 small plots in that district, but I'm happy this go around with being so close to my FC now. People are already camping the spot I left too.

I gave up on it when I first read about how to get one. Besides,the house interiors force my camera up to near first person view, shich causes nausea for me.
If I could just have a plot filled with farm patches, no house, I might be interested.

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Originally Posted by JohnSpawnVFX

The system is here to stay, band-aids are the best you can expect (and the more band-aids they introduce, the farther away a whole new housing system goes anyway) and the only way it's changing is if they decide to do another Realm Reborn or just waiting for the next MMO.

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Truthfully it was time to give up in heavensward. Too many apologists for SE allowing them to run with the system. They could have created an instance system with Shirogane and had it separate from the wards and now we will get another set of wards Ishgard. Again not taking into account the actual amount of subs.

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Originally Posted by Shibi

Honestly, this is the metric that Yoshi will be looking at. Just setting one's sub to not renew - even if you restart it before the month is off - sends a factual message to SE.

They released 720 plots, queues were in the thousands, and thousands unsubbed.

It would get some action.

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Simply don't resub after the month has passed. That speaks louder than crying wolf. Why unsub when you are just going to resub before changes happens?

Removing the random timer is a really bad idea. Then you would just give the resellers back their means of sniping up houses because they could assure someone when it would be available to purchase from them.

They should instead keep the timer and make moving applicable to it like outright buying. It's not right that someone moving a house can bypass all the people who are sitting and waiting for it. I've seen suggestions on here about interacting with the sign putting you into a lottery for the house after a specified time. That way people could go play the game and don't have to sit and try to beat someone to clicking on the sign. If moves were also part of that lottery, then the only option left for resellers would be selling the FC with the house and while that still happens, it's not nearly as common as selling your plot so someone can move to it. If they kill the resell market as much as possible and make them a lot less profitable, then more will become available.

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Originally Posted by Terin

... it is possible for a single player to own TWO HOUSES ON A SINGLE CHARACTER...

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Are you sure? I got this message.

https://i.imgur.com/WJD3CIN.png

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Originally Posted by LalaRu

Are you sure? I got this message.

https://i.imgur.com/WJD3CIN.png

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You used to be able to have a private and an FC but didn't they change that? Now the FC house is assumed to belong to "everyone" since anyone could potentially become the leader. Or they may finally have rescinded that. I know folks were very upset with it.