Objectively, The Royal Managerie Will Be Nerfed

I dont want it nerfed but I think to prevent it from being nerf the people that want it to remain as is should run trial roulette and stay even if they know it will be terrible. We are only making the likelihood that a fight will be nerfed more likely when people instantly leave, vote abandon after 1 wipe, or prevent entry by wearing gear of an ilvl lower than the trial they are trying to avoid. When a large portion of the players that have and can clear decide to shun the players that cant the only solution is to nerf the fight. We ourselves can do better than this

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Originally Posted by technole

This SB instance is just right. Enough where people can't be dragged to victory. Every mechanic practically comes from everything you seen in the story or earlier normal trials. Diamond Dust? Unless you were asleep during Shiva, I don't know how people mess it up. There is such thing as a Focus Target.

Keep up the good work with story instances SE!

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It's actually very possible to beat Shiva before she can even use the ground freeze ability so it's possible that its their first time seeing the ability.

It's probably the only ability in the fight you really need to watch out for in the fight so I just macro a warning for it.

Short answer: git gud

Long answer: Unless someone has been facerolling their keyboard all the way through ARR and HW and SB then you should already know how to do the mechanics

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Originally Posted by Eshura

It's not just player competence that's the issue here. SE made this guy more like a raid boss than an end-of-story boss.

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Like Niddhog in Final Step of Faith?

Think of it as a test to see if you're ready for the end game.

I wouldn't be terribly surprised if it did get nerfed (although, really, how much of a nerf can it get that won't be taken care of by gear levels outpacing it, anyway?), but I'm genuinely glad that I got to clear it as it is now. I thought it was the fun kind of challenging, not the "oh my god why would they even do this to us" kind. I'm not a stellar player by any means, but there were no mechanics that I couldn't comprehend/adjust to -- and I was pretty sleep-deprived when I ran it.

My experience was Duty Finder group, but three or four tries. We made clear progress with each attempt though -- our last wipe before we succeeded had the boss down to a single-digit health percentage. I'm quite grateful to the group for sticking with it for so long... especially since the sun was starting to come up by the time I went to bed after clearing it. It would have been really frustrating to queue up for it around 3:00 and go to bed close to 5:00 with nothing to show for it, hahaha.

meanwhile .... : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wcPf_t79Z7s

xD ... (OwO)b this fight doesn't need a nerf at all . THE END . >:D

I am a white mage and I cleared this. My fiance and I went in together with a new bard that was waiting for it to pop. We're a tank/healer combo so we help dps ques.

Anyway the game from the start of ARR to the very end of SB is preparing you for this fight, preparing you for the damage increase. As a healer, we feel it when dps is a little low or people are constantly being hit. To Raise alone at that level is 3600 mana so yes, dodging is important.

If you don't know the fight, maybe you're returned or jump potioned so you don't remember or know it... but ask. A lot of us are more than willing to help. It's not hard if you pay attention and learn from your mistakes. Stick with it and you'll get through.

I loved this fight and the difficulty spike, it felt refreshing when you took him down. Don't nerf it, maybe give more incentive for older players to help new to the trial folk. But if you don't know the fight, please speak up. We can't help you out if we don't know that you don't know it.

I just ran this for the first time, I had been putting it off as I suffered from bad latency (AUS player) and a slow responsive laptop and as I'd heard reports about how difficult it was awith all the aoe/mechanics I decided to put it off. I've just bought a brand new gaming laptop and have completed the fight and in all honesty, it's just learning the mechanics, with a DF group and 4 of us completely new to the fight it took us 4 attempts to clear it, I don't think it needs a nerf, it might be a struggle for those with bad latency though and for them I understand the frustration as there is a lot of mechanics to avoid/dodge which I don't think would have been possible on my old laptop.