If I heal a in a dungeon I'm not dpsing unless I feel like it or if its a boss. If 2 dps combined cant make trash go at a decent rate I'm not gonna be turned into a pseudo dps to compensate for a lack thereof as long as you're not dead on the floor and theres no debuffs on you I'm doing my job if they don't like that feel free to kick me and wait on another healer either way no penalty for me. This whole healers have to dps to make runs go faster is ridiculous if it aint an extreme primal or savage I aint doing it end of story. I know a lot of Healers feel the same way.Quote:
Originally Posted by Settiesama
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05-11-2016, 02:20 PMXeonerable_Mizu
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05-11-2016, 02:22 PMXeonerable_Mizuwhoopdee do for youQuote:
Originally Posted by DeeColon
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05-11-2016, 04:07 PMbirdy_reene
I think its funny your pissing and moaning about healers not dpsing, because it costs you an average of 3 minutes.
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05-11-2016, 04:17 PMReynhart
It's funny that, for the sake of proving how healer's DPS is very important, no one pointed out that if your healer is doing 1000 and your DPS are doing 1000...then there is clearly something wrong with your DPS
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05-11-2016, 04:19 PMJustPlainLucasWith all due respect, you should be dpsing when you're not healing. It's really not that hard, and people do appreciate a healer who isn't just slacking off. It's not about you picking up the slack from the DPS. It's about you giving it your all, just as the other three team members are doing. You have Cleric Stance for a reason, not just when you're soloing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Xeonerable_Mizu
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05-11-2016, 04:24 PMJustPlainLucasTake that three minutes and multiply it by, say, four dungeons runs a day (Expert, 60, 50, leveling). You got 12 minutes. Times that by 7 days, you got an hour and 12. Times that by 52 two weeks and you get 97 hours. That's over four DAYS of game time a year shaved off by healers helping with the dps. Yeah, sure, an average of three minutes isn't much, but it definitely adds up when you play daily.Quote:
Originally Posted by birdy_reene
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05-11-2016, 04:25 PMalimdia
All them bad healers, dps and tanks crying in this thread
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05-11-2016, 05:36 PMYasuhiroI tried just healing once. I get bored shitless and start DPSing if there's nothing to heal it's not hard and we're given offensive spells for a reason. Infact just now I had a healer during the last boss of Anti Tower not do crap when Calcabrina cast Dollhouse they just let one DPS do all the work to free me and the other DPS only healing the minimal damage Calcabrina dishes out. Why not try World of Warcraft? I heard the player base gets super pissy if a healer dishes out damage rather than just healing mindlessly. Not to mention since the dawn of the series damage spells have been a part of the healers arsenal. I love it in dungeons when I get the chance to chuck a few Holy spells in before topping up the tank.Quote:
Originally Posted by Xeonerable_Mizu
And before someone says "what works in a single player game doesn't work in a MMO!"
It obviously does in terms of healers giving out damage, god damn, even Hall of the Novice AND the Conjurer questline says healers should DPS during downtime.Quote:
Originally Posted by DeeColon
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05-11-2016, 08:35 PMKallera
This is why I generally dont go into how I play. People end up trying to run others out of the game because they don't play it in lockstep with everyone else. I mean I get some are trying to help, and some are just looking out for their own interests, but why is it worth being all passive aggressive about it?
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05-11-2016, 08:46 PMEidolonWell, I cant' speak for everyone, but I definitely did point out that in the scenario of a DPS underperforming (even said as much about the 800-1000 dps'ers), that the impact of a healers dps is even greater. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Reynhart
Not sure who 'you' is, but - I do wanna say, I am a strange guy who genuinely enjoys spending time on the forums and hashing out ideas /discussing things. I do it sometimes before/during RP, I do it while bored, or I do it while waiting in duty finder's que. x3Quote:
Originally Posted by birdy_reene
I think there's a lot of defensive players when it comes to healers adding DPS. Simply put, people want healers to do more just like people want DPS to do their Best DPS, and tanks to do perfect Mitigation / Try to squeeze DPS where possible.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kallera
However, I don't think anyone will try to run you out of the game. I'm really sorry if that's happened to you before though (Someone genuinely trying to run you out of the game.)
I think a big thing I want to say is, healer DPS needs to be done with Healer Comfort. While Healer DPS can definitely push a run into the league of super-fast speed runs, if the healer isn't comfortable with it they shouldnt' be forced to. I think some healers just need to be able to say, "Hey, I understand that it'd be better if I added some DPS, but I'm not comfortable enough with it yet."
Instead, what we get is "No! The DPS needs to do their job! my job is to heal! I only want to heal! I'm good at it!" It comes off as trying to tell others their playstyle is wrong while simultaneously trying to push things off on others.