This is why we need jumping/falling system in FFXIV

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Originally Posted by Zenaku

when is the last time you jump in real life? it been years for me there no need for jumping but if you want noob rabbits jumping in city all day then ok fine lol

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you need to shutdown your computer for few hours and take some trip or play sports...

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Originally Posted by Evangela

It's all because of these ppl in the forum which whining against jumping and sadly Yoshi listened to them too much :(

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Yoshi is freaking stupid, all he does is listen to the people that are clinging to their FFXI nostalgia safety blankets. For chrissake, get over it already. Oh wait, you can't cos you can't jump.

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Originally Posted by Zenaku

when is the last time you jump in real life? it been years for me there no need for jumping but if you want noob rabbits jumping in city all day then ok fine lol

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When was the last time you fought a Peiste in real life or ran 082423024 miles across the desert and threw a hologram in the air at a magical crystal that spawned monsters? And when was the last time you instantly teleported to the other side of the world, costing you only 3 anima?

For chrissake, come back when you have a valid argument or stay away.

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Originally Posted by Vesperia

When was the last time you fought a Peiste in real life or ran 082423024 miles across the desert and threw a hologram in the air at a magical crystal that spawned monsters? And when was the last time you instantly teleported to the other side of the world, costing you only 3 anima?

For chrissake, come back when you have a valid argument or stay away.

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Look listen the only reason players want jump is because wow and every dumbass wow-clone have jump. Final fantasy never needed jump if it a control type jump that only spot you are allow to jump then i understand but free jumping i do not agree.

@Evangela let's start by i hate sports hate seeing sport hate going to see a spot. I went to college for IT i eat well and sleep well the only reason i don't go outside is because it FL hot like hell i have no money and can't find a job in my city but trust me if i had a job i wont be here right now. So think about the person before you talk i was not being rude there just no need for a free jump maybe a control jump like i said only spot you allow to jump or area you allow to jump that make more sense to me and for all we know that what SE is going to do,

You listen, I want jump because it's better than running into a stupid wall 409238409242 times a day instead of being able to climb or jump up it. I want jump because it's a valuable asset in exploration and traversing the game world.

So the arguement against jump is that 'its always been that way, so it should stay that way always'? Wow, how lame. If thats how we did things in the world and our lives too we wouldn't even be here. Oh yea that goes for the game as well. I'm sorry but nothing stayes the same. FFXIV can evolve, or go extinct. The 2011 mmo market is not like 1980's when the first ff's came out. Sorry to break it to you but this is an important feature and you crying you don't want it cause it breaks your immersion or FF has never had it or its just not 'final fantasysque' is a rubbish arguement.

Dear !@#$ing lord why did Yoshida have to say the J word? -.-

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Originally Posted by gifthorse

Exactly.

WoW has like 1% of features from Warcraft.

Point taken.

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At this point, I am beginning to wonder if you actually have played WoW. If you have, then I wonder if you knew what game you were really playing.

Another totally valid argument against jump...

I'm not for or against it, I'm with Captaindownsyndrome on the dont-give-a-shit boat. However, I do see it being more useful than not.

Its just a matter of how its implemented. Whether it be manual or by action-command.

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Originally Posted by Corrderio

Dear !@#$ing lord why did Yoshida have to say the J word? -.-

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To put to rest it's not important, which sadly the people who want to jump for no reason won't take it laying down, even though they lost.

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Originally Posted by Elexia

To put to rest it's not important, which sadly the people who want to jump for no reason won't take it laying down, even though they lost.

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In the future it could (read: COULD) be good, but at the moment there isn't any reason. Most things can be climbed over after the collision detection update (given it could still use some work) so I don't see a reason for it.

And with how badly the server needs to optimized, would you really trust a free jump in the current state the servers are in?

maybe you think there's no reason to have jumping

but I even more wonder why you people have to against it. can you tell me why? how it will effect you guys if they add jumping to the game?


If they add jumping:

people who want to jump = happy

people who want to walk up the ledge still can do it = nothing change


unless it's about your hate, hate everything that never been in previous FF series before and don't want to learn something new

Whywheneeditandwhynot SAY IT NOW!

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Originally Posted by Corrderio

In the future it could (read: COULD) be good, but at the moment there isn't any reason. Most things can be climbed over after the collision detection update (given it could still use some work) so I don't see a reason for it.

And with how badly the server needs to optimized, would you really trust a free jump in the current state the servers are in?

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At least not a free-jump but instead of walking over hills, they could probably pull off a FFXIII and just make the jumping based on collision.

I think that would be the best of both worlds. Though it mostly would only serve as a visual effect, nothing more.

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Originally Posted by Evangela

maybe you think there's no reason to have jumping

but I even more wonder why you people have to against it. can you tell me why? how it will effect you guys if they add jumping to the game?

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Why are you asking people why they dont want it? They've said it plenty of times. In fact, is there really a reason we absolutely need it?

Would you be against if they added collision-based jumping like i mentioned earlier? Its just as tedious as walking over the small cliffs. Just adding the visual effect of jumping would serve the purpose of Free-jump without allowing players to jump around all over town.

For those against that idea and want Free-jump, i seriously have no idea what to think, almost as if you'll be the ones jumping around like monkeys. It happens in every MMORPG that allows it. I wish FFXIV will never become that way.

Need jump ; ;

What MMO are you people playing where people cannot restrain themselves from jumping constantly and needlessly and totally ruining your gaming experience?

I was in WoW last night, in Stormwind, between the AH and the bank. Dozens of players milling about, scores more coming and going. And--get this--all of them, through the grace of some celestial power, managed, somehow, to restrain themselves from tapping the big, gigantic, tantalizing space bar before them to make their toon jump up and down, thus saving the game for everyone. It was no less than miraculous.

I know what you're thinking, "There's no way that this many WoW players for any significant amount of time could restrain themselves from jumping about and utterly laying waste to immersion." But I tell no lies, my friends. This happened.

What's more, I did a few instances later that night. PUGs, using the Dungeon Finder. We tanked and spanked our way through several dungeons without a single--wait for it--moment of immersion broken by a player jumping up and down like he was having a conniption! "Preposterous!" I can already hear you typing this. Alas, no, I am not storytelling. I am relaying a true account of something that indeed happened.

My immersion suffered no detriment due to unnecessary and incessant jumping. It simply didn't happen.

But, surely, this must not be the case for all of you. Some of you must have indeed been wronged--so very, very wronged--by some shady n00b who sought only to rain on your MMO parade by finding that space bar with his barbecue sauce-stained fingers and, yes, tapping it, tapping it, tapping it, forever more. You have my most sincere sympathy. I know there's nothing I can say that can take that memory, and that pain, away. But you need to learn to trust--you need to learn to love. Open your hearts. There are millions--nay, billions--of people waiting to play FFXIV and to use that jump command economically and correctly at just the right moment to provide an unfathomable amount of immersion that can only come from interacting with your environment by moving your body vertically over part of it.

tl;dr: Open your hearts. Let the healing begin. Jump around. Jump around. Get up, get up, and get down.

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Originally Posted by Evangela

when this happens...

It doesn't feel like playing a 2010 MMORPG

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zkQotm5A10U

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Exactly.
The devs already know it but it's not a priority to determine if it's worth or not.
So let's build non-jumping content and then later they'll come tell us it would cost too much to change everything to add jumping. That same goes for the flying monster that are just hovering the ground. It truly feels like FFXIV is a next gen MMORPG when I see a bird fly hover like that *sarcasm*. What's more, some of the original content is being stripped off to switch and copy other older gen MMO... wow. Our characters were supposed to grow as whole, but not anymore, we'll be classes running around now (and here comes the clones and elitist too!). And so on... I guess I'll stop here, I'm in a bad mood today.

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Originally Posted by Nuru

At least not a free-jump but instead of walking over hills, they could probably pull off a FFXIII and just make the jumping based on collision.

I think that would be the best of both worlds. Though it mostly would only serve as a visual effect, nothing more.

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I never played FF13, but I'll assume that only at certain/obvious points you'll be able ot jump after hitting a button.

Unless they do make the servers more responsive, that's the only way I ever see jumping work.

I do not think we need jumping in the game at this time.

I vote NO on jumping.

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Originally Posted by Corrderio

I never played FF13, but I'll assume that only at certain/obvious points you'll be able ot jump after hitting a button.

Unless they do make the servers more responsive, that's the only way I ever see jumping work.

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Well, that game you press a button or you continue to walk forward and it jumps for you automatically.

Even if it was free-jump, server response is still an issue. =/

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