First player to level 50 on all jobs?

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Originally Posted by viion

Explain to me where I failed? The government pay for my living costs and my student costs, and it is as simple as that, the required payback rates are so low that you cant pay it off in a life time due to standard inflation. So you dont pay it back.Also keep below 15k a year and you dont even pay back a penny, keep below 20k a year and your phone contract will be more expensive than your student loans.

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Your aspirations for life are in the right place. Aim for under 15k, you'll be living the dream.

oh boy oh boy, witch-hunt time!
seriously, why does everyone care so much about someone getting all classes to 50?

anyways, grats to arc, regardless to him botting or not.
on a more serious note tho, he has alot of guild mark skills, yet i thought botters don't even bother with getting marks since all they do is grind.

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Originally Posted by Black_Rose

oh boy oh boy, witch-hunt time!
seriously, why does everyone care so much about someone getting all classes to 50?

anyways, grats to arc, regardless to him botting or not.
on a more serious note tho, he has alot of guild mark skills, yet i thought botters don't even bother with getting marks since all they do is grind.

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Because its not legit?

This type of thing ruins MMOs?

Why I am I wasting my time playing like a sap, socialising and leve-linking when I should be running my own rmt/free-game exploit-empire like this guy.

Bah, marks are handed out like candy since that patch a few weeks ago. I've almost got everything a TAN can purchase and I'm only rank 35.

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Originally Posted by Kam

Your aspirations for life are in the right place. Aim for under 15k, you'll be living the dream.

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To even say something like must mean you have absolute no idea how the system works lol.

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Originally Posted by Xenor

Bah, marks are handed out like candy since that patch a few weeks ago. I've almost got everything a TAN can purchase and I'm only rank 35.

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^ This

And my 2 cents~

Its simple guys, he needs banning. And all those people who are bending the system like this.

Hell, I see enough complaints about RMT trains of lalafels all named similar to each other.

Arc Tea has done the same thing. And people congratulate him on his "awesome" achievement. lolforums really?

You guys are bunch of noobs. And no, I'm not here to win friends.

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Originally Posted by Black_Rose

oh boy oh boy, witch-hunt time!
seriously, why does everyone care so much about someone getting all classes to 50?

anyways, grats to arc, regardless to him botting or not.
on a more serious note tho, he has alot of guild mark skills, yet i thought botters don't even bother with getting marks since all they do is grind.

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Why... WHY? Really? While I spend all this time grinding and stuff to earn my rank, here he is doing it in his sleep and getting way past me. It's not right and can even hurt your gameplay, like when a botter can pick off mobs faster than you, ect.

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Originally Posted by viion

To even say something like must mean you have absolute no idea how the system works lol.

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Not going to get derailed off into why people like you are a waste of tax payers money.

Oops said too much.

Almost making me glad its 9k a year for some Uni's now. It might weed out the.. err. weeds.. yerr :)

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Originally Posted by Kam

Not going to get derailed off into why people like you are a waste of tax payers money.

Oops said too much.

Almost making me glad its 9k a year for some Uni's now. It might weed out the.. err. weeds.. yerr :)

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It also sounds like you're finding exploits within the system. You know, so you dont have to pay a thing? get everything free? No wonder you support Arc Tea....

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Originally Posted by Kam

So, if I said to you that it is possible to start up your own little RMT empire while the game is still free. Ranking yourself up faster and more effciant that anyone else in the game - you'd think I was giving out legit-pro tips on how FFXIV should be played??? OR the latter - it was an unforseen exploit waiting to be torn open by one of the OCD members of SEs player base.

Just curious which side of the fence you fall on.

And to answer for need of "proof" (despite it being obvious, do the math..)
All actions in game are on a log, that can back-date god knows how long. They can just look over all your actions in game an determine if you're legit or not. Did anyone not hear of re-roll in FFXI?

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What side of the fence i'm on? Neither i'm the outcast that chooses to chill on top of it.
Yes proof do you have it at all? Ok so SE has some sheets of paper with everyone's report card tell me something I don't know.
I have had linkshell members in Xi that used to get stopped by the GM all the time because they thought he/she was using bots. In the end they weren't but i'm sure there were people just looking for the ban stick. You are writing as if you know without a doubt it's a bot as if you know the person personally.

(Democracy?)(Can I have It?)

It should be SE place to decide and cast judgement nobody else. This could be multiple people using an account which is less severe than a BOT/RMT.

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Originally Posted by Kam

Not going to get derailed off into why people like you are a waste of tax payers money.

Oops said too much.

Almost making me glad its 9k a year for some Uni's now. It might weed out the.. err. weeds.. yerr :)

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Troll harder.

Like I've said. I've seen Arc Tea around and they don't seem to be using a 3rd party program.

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Originally Posted by Kam

Not going to get derailed off into why people like you are a waste of tax payers money.

Oops said too much.

Almost making me glad its 9k a year for some Uni's now. It might weed out the.. err. weeds.. yerr :)

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Who cares about tax payers money? lolol, And how will 9k change anything? Since you dont repay it in your life time and the repayment rates are not changing lol. It will always be 9% of the monthly threshold.

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Originally Posted by DeadRiser

Why... WHY? Really? While I spend all this time grinding and stuff to earn my rank, here he is doing it in his sleep and getting way past me. It's not right and can even hurt your gameplay, like when a botter can pick off mobs faster than you, ect.

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If you cant outclaim a bot you are really really bad lol. And bot or not, if I was farming a mob, I'm going to be out claiming you, does that mean im a bot because I also want to farm/level in an area you do? Such a stupid response.

People are just jealous, its obvious and its right there. I dont care if he hacked SE servers and just typed the damn lvs in lol I'd just congratulate cuse im not a jealous kid and it affects my gameplay in noway at all, I'm still earning millions, im still having fun, im still doing my leves, and no ones ruining that :D

Judging from his tracker stats and his history, it seems extremely legit tbh lol. He just did x amount of ranks all the time, not focusing on 1 job.

Guys, its been pointed out pages past, go read instead of jumping to last post.

Please do the math and come back.

BEST CASE SENARIO~

Arc Tea has a group of friends around the world willing to log on and play his character consistantly. 24/7. And with almost 100% effeciant grinding and meticulous planning and saving of every material for crafts to be used at specific times along the steady grind to 50 on every class. Making it an almost PERFECT tree of SP progression from one craft to a class to another craft to a DOL to another class. Making progression all a matter of 'X' amount of peoples time.

MOST LIKLEY SENARIO~

hes a hacking/exploiting f***, and its obvious to deduce how its been done. despite the work hes put into exploiting the game, it is not legit. and he need banning.

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Originally Posted by Kam

Guys, its been pointed out pages past, go read instead of jumping to last post.

Please do the math and come back.

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1)Kam who are you?
2)Do you even play on Mysidia?
3)Do you know Arc Tea?
4)Have you even see Arc Tea in action to say it's a bot?

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Originally Posted by Kam

hes a hacking/exploiting fucker, and its obvious to deduce how its been done. despite the work hes put into exploiting the game, it is not legit. and he need banning.

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rofl god your so jealous of this guy

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Originally Posted by Akumu

1)Kam who are you?
2)Do you even play on Mysidia?
3)Do you know Arc Tea?
4)Have you even see Arc Tea in action to say it's a bot?

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BEST CASE SENARIO~

Arc Tea has a group of friends around the world willing to log on and play his character consistantly. 24/7. And with almost 100% effeciant grinding and meticulous planning and saving of every material for crafts to be used at specific times along the steady grind to 50 on every class. Making it an almost PERFECT tree of SP progression from one craft to a class to another craft to a DOL to another class. Making progression all a matter of 'X' amount of peoples time.

MOST LIKLEY SENARIO~

hes a hacking/exploiting f***, and its obvious to deduce how its been done. despite the work hes put into exploiting the game, it is not legit. and he needs banning.

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I'm sure hes starting up his next "all classes to r50 character" right at the moment. Someone contact him in-game so he can come and defend himself against maths that denotes he exploits/hacks.

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Originally Posted by viion

Who cares about tax payers money? lolol, And how will 9k change anything? Since you dont repay it in your life time and the repayment rates are not changing lol. It will always be 9% of the monthly threshold.



If you cant outclaim a bot you are really really bad lol. And bot or not, if I was farming a mob, I'm going to be out claiming you, does that mean im a bot because I also want to farm/level in an area you do? Such a stupid response.

People are just jealous, its obvious and its right there. I dont care if he hacked SE servers and just typed the damn lvs in lol I'd just congratulate cuse im not a jealous kid and it affects my gameplay in noway at all, I'm still earning millions, im still having fun, im still doing my leves, and no ones ruining that :D

Judging from his tracker stats and his history, it seems extremely legit tbh lol. He just did x amount of ranks all the time, not focusing on 1 job.

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Don't tell me my responce is stupid. That's like congratulating a cheater for cheating his way through college, graduating, and getting a job. It's not morally right.

Only thing I could be jealous about is the fact that you BOTH have the time to play a game, but I'm not completely jealous as I have a life in the outside world.. ya know, like friends that you even stated you don't have

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Originally Posted by Kam

I'm sure hes starting up his next "all classes to r50 character" right at the moment. Someone contact him in-game so he can come and defend himself against maths that denotes he exploits/hacks.

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What Math?

33,860,850 / 214 = 158'228 SP a day..

NOT HARD lol

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Originally Posted by viion

What Math?

33,860,850 / 214 = 158'228 SP a day..

NOT HARD lol

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Not with the method you've descibed for producing shards, which is an exploit lol. Your not really doing much reading here. You gona get the government to start paying for your all extra characters you use once SE starts charging too?

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Originally Posted by Kam

Not with the method you've descibed, which is an exploit lol. Your not really doing much reading here.

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Not with the method I described? Most people get way more than 158SP a day.... I run a site called XIVPads which tracks player progress, and over an active 160 daily updates to provide results, i can tell you people earn FAR MORE than that a day. You get almost 100k just from linking broken water leves 3 times...... Go do some more leves get about a solid 130k, then go craft a bit or do a lower level job since you'll be in fatigure on your main.

So easy to level.

also, is that with, or with out increasing surplus?

that number every day you're telling me, is not "hard"?

You're out your fucking mind.

Your also ignoring the amount of time crafting takes vs hitting a squishy mob for easy SP

Let alone aquiring all the needed mats and shards... are you pig ignorant?

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Originally Posted by Kam

I'm sure hes starting up his next "all classes to r50 character" right at the moment. Someone contact him in-game so he can come and defend himself against maths that denotes he exploits/hacks.

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Kam you are by far the biggest radical on these forums.

There is 3 things Arc Tea can be...

1)Multiple people
2)A Bot
3)Someone with a lot of time on his/her hands

However who am I or anyone else to say BAN BAN BAN NOW! When we have no proof? If I see this guy on my server I will check him out but so far I haven't seen(or noticed) him yet. Stop speaking like you weild the holy truth and have cameras in each home.
The only people that have the right to ban is SE and it will be done after extensive reviews and not just because of what they think.

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Originally Posted by Akumu

Kam you are by far the biggest radical on these forums.

There is 3 things Arc Tea can be...

1)Multiple people
2)A Bot
3)Someone with a lot of time on his/her hands

However who am I or anyone else to say BAN BAN BAN NOW! When we have no proof? If I see this guy on my server I will check him out but so far I haven't seen(or noticed) him yet. Stop speaking like you weild the holy truth and have cameras in each home.
The only people that have the right to ban is SE and it will be done after extensive reviews and not just because of what they think.

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And why are people still complaining that these people aren't getting banned? I've seen many topics and actually have had people not be banned after witnessing botting in front of me. Just because they have the right, isn't mean they are doing it.

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Originally Posted by Kam

also, is that with, or with out increasing surplus?

that number every day you're telling me, is not "hard"?

You're out you fucking mind.

Your also ignoring the amount of time crafting takes vs hitting a squishy mob for easy SP

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Surplus resets every 7 days, and there are more than 7 classes on to work at a time, so you can avoid it surplus completely.

Also I have Alch 40 and Arm 40, I know what crafting is like and TBH its a hella lot easier than levelling, especially when I can only kill about 10 mobs in a leve for 1k each, yet I can do 200 Clusters for 800SP each on my Alch.........

Man you have no clue, what is your char name? I'd love to check it out.

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Originally Posted by Akumu

Kam you are by far the biggest radical on these forums.

There is 3 things Arc Tea can be...

1)Multiple people
2)A Bot
3)Someone with a lot of time on his/her hands

However who am I or anyone else to say BAN BAN BAN NOW! When we have no proof? If I see this guy on my server I will check him out but so far I haven't seen(or noticed) him yet. Stop speaking like you weild the holy truth and have cameras in each home.
The only people that have the right to ban is SE and it will be done after extensive reviews and not just because of what they think.

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ready my posts, simply saying SE needs to take action where it is needed, this is a major failorz break in the game. a major one going by XIV standards.

All classes to max rank was not possible in XI without years worth of work, if someone has hit cap in 7 months with exploitations, then its not working. HOW am I "radical" lol...

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Originally Posted by viion

Surplus resets every 7 days, and there are more than 7 classes on to work at a time, so you can avoid it surplus completely.

Also I have Alch 40 and Arm 40, I know what crafting is like and TBH its a hella lot easier than levelling, especially when I can only kill about 10 mobs in a leve for 1k each, yet I can do 200 Clusters for 800SP each on my Alch.........

Man you have no clue, what is your char name? I'd love to check it out.

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Character name is Kamara Kyudogi. Feel Free

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Originally Posted by Kam

Character name is Kamara Kyudogi. Feel Free

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lmao he/she would have the time to look up stuff like that

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Originally Posted by Kam

ready my posts, simply saying SE needs to take action where it is needed, this is a major failorz break in the game. a major one going by XIV standards.

All classes to max rank was not possible in XI without years worth of work, if someone has hit cap in 7 months with exploitations, then its not working. HOW am I "radical" lol...

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I have read your posts and you are judging this guy/girl/it Arc Tea as if you know for a fact he/she/it is botting. Your main problem is bots and it should have just stayed that way. We all hate bots which is understandable but judging someone without a trial is not how it's done.

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Originally Posted by viion

Surplus resets every 7 days, and there are more than 7 classes on to work at a time, so you can avoid it surplus completely.

Also I have Alch 40 and Arm 40, I know what crafting is like and TBH its a hella lot easier than levelling, especially when I can only kill about 10 mobs in a leve for 1k each, yet I can do 200 Clusters for 800SP each on my Alch.........

Man you have no clue, what is your char name? I'd love to check it out.

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BEST CASE SENARIO~

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Arc Tea has a group of friends around the world willing to log on and play his character consistantly. 24/7. And with almost 100% effeciant grinding and meticulous planning and saving of every material for crafts to be used at specific times along the steady grind to 50 on every class. Making it an almost PERFECT tree of SP progression from one craft to a class to another craft to a DOL to another class. Making progression all a matter of 'X' amount of peoples time.

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Thats still a genious way to approach this game. He should be finding the higgs boson or something, not playing MMOs

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Originally Posted by Akumu

I have read your posts and you are judging this guy/girl/it Arc Tea as if you know for a fact he/she/it is botting. Your main problem is bots and it should have just stayed that way. We all hate bots which is understandable but judging someone without a trial is not how it's done.

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All I'm saying is imo its pretty obvious this is not legit. Bots or Mulitple accounts and characters. Its not legit. They have exploited bad botting detection and/or the current F2P nature of the game. They are not paying for those accounts/characters.

The current system has been expoilted.

Whats wrong with deducing facts.

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Originally Posted by DeadRiser

lmao he/she would have the time to look up stuff like that

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You have the time to post on forums and complain about someone else? luls

Kamara Kyudogi care to explain your 1-15 arm in 1 day :O hax!

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Originally Posted by viion

You have the time to post on forums and complain about someone else? luls

Kamara Kyudogi care to explain your 1-15 arm in 1 day :O hax!

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LMFAO it is just soooo funny hahahahah like omg lol so funny lulz... no just NO. Stop where you are because the rude, no-life, egotiscal thing just isn't working for you.

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Originally Posted by viion

You have the time to post on forums and complain about someone else? luls

Kamara Kyudogi care to explain your 1-15 arm in 1 day :O hax!

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This. comming from someone 2 posts ago asking if I knew how the game works??

yes, I know how to rank up low pre 20 classes.

You dont have a leg to stand on do you. Arc has exploited the game. And for pointing that out with a passion I am trolled lol.

*edit and fyi I am in the midst of righting a guide on how to most effeciantly use you're time in-game. Saving specific mats - ranking DoW/M on certain mobs - use the mats in DoH for other DOH later on - to help in a early career in XIV. the game is a large tree of SP and an effeciant route is easy to find. infact its alot like what Arc has done, except with out exploiting the game.

Once the PS3 release is live, there are going to be people looking to buy accounts at cap. I'm not saying Arc Tea is or isn't a RMT, but you better believe they have teams of people ranking up for that very reason.

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Originally Posted by Kam

This. comming from someone 2 posts ago asking if I knew how the game works??

yes, I know how to rank up low pre 20 classes.

You dont have a leg to stand on do you. Arc has exploited the game. And for pointing that out with a passion I am trolled lol.

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Wow you missed the point there lol. Sense the sarcasm.

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Originally Posted by viion

Wow you missed the point there lol. Sense the sarcasm.

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You missed the fact I saw you trolling. typical signs are de-reailing.. resulting in none adhearance or replying to said debate.

trolololol

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Originally Posted by Kam

You missed the fact I saw you trolling.

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Huh? Where was I trolling? Even if i was i could care less. Did you think I was being serious or something about the 1-15? ......

Viion you make some really good points. Everyone does really. I wish SE could just do a program to detect hacks; that would help so much. Detect hack >> freeze character >> problem solved.

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Originally Posted by viion

Did you think I was being serious or something about the 1-15? ......

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the fact you ask that is a question to you're own intellect.. -.-

unless in-fact, you're a master troll.