Dungeons--> Open world NMs.

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Originally Posted by Lerris

Combat is not fun.
Until combat is fun, dungeons will not be fun.

Where is your 1 or 2 years coming from?

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Is just a way of saying " long time".
They already showed me they said somewhere "sometime after battle fixes " in spring, but judging by the way thins are going, ill stay skeptical until i see some real progress.


Yoshida: Right now we're working on a high-end dungeon for hardcore players. We want to have the battle changes ready for when that's released. I can't give you an exact date, but I can tell you it will be sometime in the spring. When the dungeon is released, a bunch of battle changes will also come with it.

I just noticed this 2 thins.
The as of one,
im feeling more depressed now than when i started the thread out of getting feed up with casual vs hardcore 3min vs 24 h re spawn threads.I feel for our future.Wish i was looking to much into it.

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Originally Posted by Zkieve

im feeling more depressed now than when i started the thread out of getting feed up with casual vs hardcore 3min vs 24 h re spawn threads.I feel for our future.Wish i was looking to much into it.

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Your thread just got off to a bad start. Nothing wrong with discussing dungeon possibilities.

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Originally Posted by Elexia

Keep it simple like FFXI.

Einherjar =

Tier 1 - Complete them, get the feathers
Tier 2 - Complete them, get the feathers
Tier 3 - Complete them, get the feathers
Odin's Chamber - Requires all 9 feathers.

This didn't create the clique like mentality that didn't already exist (Guild/linkshell for example), especially considering you have to repeat said tiers in order to fight Odin again.

This is why I'm weary about Yoshida mentioning dungeons being like the western MMO style.

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Yeah, I loved the way FFXI did stuff. I really really really really REALLY REALLY hope we don't get this stupid western style MMO dungeon system of "NORMAL - > HEROIC - > HEROIC TIER2 - > RAID" or something just as stupid, where every new raid is a new tier of gear making the other tier useless. I also REALLY hope they don't do the WOW thing where "5 man heroics now give old tier gear teehee!" when they introduce a new raid, THAT WAS HORRIBLE omg X_X

I preferred FFXI's end game structure, like 8+ events(dungeons) you could do, all with overlapping gear, so you had to do them ALL to get gear, and none of the gear really replaced gear from previous events(dungeons). No tiers, just lots of dungeons with good gear. Loved having to do all the content, and loved having lots of things to do.