List of Final Fantasy references in A Realm Reborn

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Originally Posted by AdvancedWind

http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/F..._XIV/Allusions

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Thanks, I'll use a few things from this that I don't already have.

Also, I added a section for other Final Fantasy games/media such as Crystal Chronicles and the movie Spirits Within.

Some system sounds (cancelling a command, etc) are the same from FFXIII series. Though I think it's more of a recycling of resources then a real reference.

Also, not only Serah's bow will be implemented, but roughly every other FFXIII character's weapons will be present: pictures here and here.

I believe Lightning's gunblade will be for gladiators, Fang's for lancers, Serah's for archers, Snow's cristal/ice 'thing' (from Lightning Returns) will work as a marauder's axe, Vanille's rod will go to conjurers, Mog's Clock to thaumaturges. The last too I would've done different: a pair of modified Sazh guns to work as pugilist's gloves and the terrible mashup of Hope's boomerangs as an arcanist's book. Very weird.

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Originally Posted by aisthesis

Some system sounds (cancelling a command, etc) are the same from FFXIII series. Though I think it's more of a recycling of resources then a real reference.

Also, not only Serah's bow will be implemented, but roughly every other FFXIII character's weapons will be present.

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Yeah I think its more recycling resources. The only sound I think is a reference is one of the /tell alerts being from 9.
Ah, I didn't realize that, I'll change the reference to encompass every weapon.

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Originally Posted by Ardbob

Thanks! I'll add this. Do you know if it's already a dungeon in the game or if its just concept art for a dungeon they plan to add later?

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I'm not sure which, to be honest, when I am able to log in, I will check the zones to see if there's a location marker for it.

I don't see a marker for it, so maybe its just concept art for the time being.

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Originally Posted by Ardbob

I'm confused a little. Are they in Final Fantasy XIV as monsters? FATE? Dungeon? Or is it yet unrevealed and they've just shown concept art?

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They should appear in a Fate and maybe as minions too, that artwork was form a dev blog of ff14
if im not wrong they are called: Mandragora Prince, Alraune King, Onion Queen, Pumpkin Star, & Topstalk.
all 5 appear in an Hunt in ff12

Deathgaze is 99% the same as in ff12 not ff13 one
http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Deathgaze

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Originally Posted by Ardbob

These two games share a common team member. As such, there are many similarities between the two games, from similar enemies to the user interface to the blue dotted lines between zones. This does not mean they are references, but rather similarities in design due to a common designer.

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i think you refere to Akihiko Yoshida(fftactis,FF12,vagrant story), but is an art designer and didnt work to the game Systems

They are a reference! if is the same system, that works the same way, and wasnt used for almost 7 years, not in ff13,ff13-2,ff13-3, ff14 1.0 and then they reuse it, it is a reference, at least for me lol, the Devs one day they decided "ok we use THIS from FF12".Its a choise of a Team and so a reference.
same if one day they decide to add Tetra master from FF8, will be a Game Design reference.
The Aggro lines (battle desing not artstyle) are only in FF12 how cant be a reference? Allusion are not only to the Story but To Game design, Music, Artstyle etc.


ah! i forgot that yoshi in a video said chocobo companion will work with GAMBITS form FF12, will be another reference. :P

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Originally Posted by Ardbob

Ultima Weapon is in the game

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yes but must be add: (His Design is based from FF7)

-The Beast Clan Sylph of ff14 first appeared in FF4 as a Summon, and saved/put asleep Yang in the story
http://images.wikia.com/finalfantasy...FFIV_Sylph.png
http://images.wikia.com/finalfantasy...ylph_Field.png

In General references:
you must add The presence of the Opening Prelude and The Victory Fanfare music, that give the "feeling" of a real FF

Just some of my obserations:

You are recognized as a person of destiny by the crystal you bear. In FFI, the warriors of Light were recognized in the same way.
Possible reference: Major NPCs are unable to recognize Legacy players as the warriors of light, despite their deeds in v1. FFI ended with the warriors of light closing the time loop that caused the rise of the fiends, and as a result erased all knowledge of their deeds from the timeline. Essentially, no one remembers them or what they did.

(note: MAJOR SPOILERS!!! you have been warned)

Thancred betrays you, and is revealed to be under mind control, not unlike Kain in FFIV
The "one true god" the Ascians worship: Zodiark
In addition, the Ascians are immortal, undying, and involve themselves in the affairs of mortals much like the Occuria. In particular, they appear to be influencing Gaius' descision to invade Eorzea, much like Venat.
Some of Gaius' ideals are remarkably similar to Vayne Solidor

In the dungeon "Copperbell Mines," there is a monster named Hecatoncheir Stonehauler/Stonebreaker. Hecatoncheir is a reference to Vanille's Eidolon from Final Fantasy XIII.

The Tam-Tara Deepcroft has a final boss named Galvanth the Dominator. He's a reference to the Mindflayer monster from the original Final Fantasy.

There is a FATE named "Desert Rose" in Eastern Thanalan. Desert Rose is a reference to an item stolen from Ruby Weapon in FFVII. Ruby Weapon was fought in the desert, much like Thanalan.

Huh, not really having checked much into the remodeled sprite for Kain/Cecil from FF4 I actually thought the Dragoon armor looked a lot more like Cecil's Dark Knight armor from the original FF4 on SNES.

Kain's SNES sprite
Cecil's SNES sprite

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Originally Posted by Laiferr

As well as Yoshida, Hiroshi Minagawa is the Lead UI Designer. He was the UI designer in 12: http://lodestone.finalfantasyxiv.com...574cb9c3991c9f

It's not a 'reference' ("The action of mentioning or alluding to something") but a 'similarity' as it's members of the same team. It would be like saying the artwork being in the same style as 12 is a 'reference' when clearly, it is not, it's just the same artist and that's how he draws. Like artists have a style, UI designers have a style and this is Minagawa's style c: 'Tetra Master' is a specific trademarked 'thing' rather than a 'design component' so, it would be a reference.

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ok....(going in a corner to cry)
but a "similarity" become a reference if is wanted by the Author/s (Square enix, Yoshida or Minagawa), one day they decided "this is what we want" not "i always do like this, its my style, i do aggro lines in battle everytime", if it is like you say Minagawa "Wanted" allude to FF12, in my opinion the dots, the UI and the Aggro lines are an artistc visual&gameplay allusion to a past game in the series.(btw aggro lines are a "thing")

I found the Final Fantasy 1 Victory music in a certain storyline quest.

The story quest isn't very important since it is more of a homage to the old FF games back when every detail of our character's actions were described in a long text bubble.

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Originally Posted by MonsiuerGeneral

Huh, not really having checked much into the remodeled sprite for Kain/Cecil from FF4 I actually thought the Dragoon armor looked a lot more like Cecil's Dark Knight armor from the original FF4 on SNES.

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Yes the AF armor of the Dragoon is a Mix of classic dragoon armor and the cecil armor, the spikes in the back are similar, as said is a reference of FF4

Allusions or A similarity idk but:

Gaius's Japanese voice actor is Akio Otsuka, who voiced in Final Fantasy XII as Gabranth. Both they are in the covers of each game.

the Promotional Art of Gaius is very Similar of A famous Shot of Sephirot in ff7

http://img.finalfantasyxiv.com/lds/p....jpg?c42acb6v1

http://it.playstation.com/media/U0M4...oth-screen.jpg

Not sure if I should mention this, but even though the name "Cait Sith" first appeared in FF7, it was the new translation for one of the four starting espers you get in FF6. It was known as Stray on SNES and Cait Sith on GBA.

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Originally Posted by Amelia_Pond_Behemoth

Not sure if I should mention this, but even though the name "Cait Sith" first appeared in FF7, it was the new translation for one of the four starting espers you get in FF6. It was known as Stray on SNES and Cait Sith on GBA.

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Yes, the one in FF7 i think was an allusion to the ff6 one (in past games was a coeurl)
http://images.wikia.com/finalfantasy...0/07/Stray.png

I dunno if this is mentioned, but I think Alphinaud and Alisaie are more a reference to Palom and Porom then the 2 Padjal. Both P/P and A/A have long ponytails and look exactly alike minus a very few features.

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Originally Posted by Daemion

I dunno if this is mentioned, but I think Alphinaud and Alisaie are more a reference to Palom and Porom then the 2 Padjal. Both P/P and A/A have long ponytails and look exactly alike minus a very few features.

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Originally Posted by AranWade

Alphinaud and Rhitahtyn are two Young Mage Twins like Palom and Poron (ff4)

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yeah i noticed too, but seems OP didnt feel was an allusion. but is still a big Similiarity

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Originally Posted by AranWade

the Alchemist Guild leader is called "Serendipity" and she says "Call me serah" (im not sure about this)

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anyone can confirm if im right with this? i remember was the first thing she told me when join the guild but...i have a bad memory
If True this is an Official Allusion to FF13-2

I'm not sure if this has been mentioned but the chat filter examples involve Cloud, Tifa, and the Shadow Lord and Bayohne lol.

not a real allusion but Paladin armor Af Reseble the ff11 one (pic found online)

http://i.imgur.com/FGo9A.jpg

It should be mentioned under General that a ton of weapons from throughout the series return as weapons in XIV. A couple good examples that I can recall off the top of my head from FFXI:

Claustrum, the BLM Relic Weapon, is the staff wielded by Kan-E-Senna.
Tizona, the BLU Mythic Weapon, is one of Raubahn's swords.
Death Penalty and Annihilator are the two guns wielded by Merlwyb. The Death Penalty is both the famous weapon wielded by Vincent in VII and also the COR Mythic Weapon. The Annihilator is the RNG Relic weapon.
The Veil of Wiyu and the Omnilex (the Summoner and Scholar relic weapons, respectively) are from the Tactics series.

And, needless to say, a TON of monster designs were taken directly from XI (Crabs, Colibri, Mandoragora, Raptors, Chigos, Apkallu, Adamantoise, Goobbue, and technically Mammets, since they're just cuter versions of the Automatons that Puppetmasters got) and even some from XII.

The dungeon "Cutter's Cry" seems awfully similar to that of the "Ant Lion's Den" from FF4, as well as these bosses.

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.joystiq.c...lion042108.jpg
AntLion from FF4

Myrmidon Princess from FFXIV ARR
http://i1.ytimg.com/vi/0dXyy-42Ubs/m...jpg?feature=og

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Originally Posted by rmelzer1986

I don't see a marker for it, so maybe its just concept art for the time being.

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I thought about it and decided that I won't include concepts in the reference list. I think its better if all the references are things that currently exist in the game.

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Originally Posted by AranWade

They should appear in a Fate and maybe as minions too, that artwork was form a dev blog of ff14
if im not wrong they are called: Mandragora Prince, Alraune King, Onion Queen, Pumpkin Star, & Topstalk.
all 5 appear in an Hunt in ff12

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If they aren't in the game yet, I'd rather not include them. Read above.

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Originally Posted by AranWade

Deathgaze is 99% the same as in ff12 not ff13 one
yes but must be add: (His Design is based from FF7)
-The Beast Clan Sylph of ff14 first appeared in FF4 as a Summon, and saved/put asleep Yang in the story

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I'll correct and add those references. Thank you.

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Originally Posted by Vanguard319

You are recognized as a person of destiny by the crystal you bear. In FFI, the warriors of Light were recognized in the same way.
Possible reference: Major NPCs are unable to recognize Legacy players as the warriors of light, despite their deeds in v1. FFI ended with the warriors of light closing the time loop that caused the rise of the fiends, and as a result erased all knowledge of their deeds from the timeline. Essentially, no one remembers them or what they did.

Thancred betrays you, and is revealed to be under mind control, not unlike Kain in FFIV
The "one true god" the Ascians worship: Zodiark
In addition, the Ascians are immortal, undying, and involve themselves in the affairs of mortals much like the Occuria. In particular, they appear to be influencing Gaius' descision to invade Eorzea, much like Venat.

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I'll add these, thank you!

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Originally Posted by MonkeyDSabo

In the dungeon "Copperbell Mines," there is a monster named Hecatoncheir Stonehauler/Stonebreaker. Hecatoncheir is a reference to Vanille's Eidolon from Final Fantasy XIII.
The Tam-Tara Deepcroft has a final boss named Galvanth the Dominator. He's a reference to the Mindflayer monster from the original Final Fantasy.
There is a FATE named "Desert Rose" in Eastern Thanalan. Desert Rose is a reference to an item stolen from Ruby Weapon in FFVII. Ruby Weapon was fought in the desert, much like Thanalan.

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Thanks, I'll add these.

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Originally Posted by EdwinLi

I found the Final Fantasy 1 Victory music in a certain storyline quest.
The story quest isn't very important since it is more of a homage to the old FF games back when every detail of our character's actions were described in a long text bubble.

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Do you remember anything about the quest? It's name or location?

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Originally Posted by AranWade

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the Promotional Art of Gaius is very Similar of A famous Shot of Sephirot in ff7

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I'd call that an allusion. Thank you!

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Originally Posted by Daemion

I dunno if this is mentioned, but I think Alphinaud and Alisaie are more a reference to Palom and Porom then the 2 Padjal. Both P/P and A/A have long ponytails and look exactly alike minus a very few features.

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I've been confused about this for a while. At white point someone suggested it as the two white mages from the white mage quest line and I used the reference without double checking. When AranWade posted their names, I mistook him for saying that was the names of the WHM storyline characters. Recently, I got to the point in the story where I meet Alphinaud and Alisaie and I also got to the point of WHM where I meet the other two mages. I realized at that point that I had gotten something wrong, but I was still confused. Thank you for the correction, I'll fix it!

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Originally Posted by Nahara

It should be mentioned under General that a ton of weapons from throughout the series return as weapons in XIV. A couple good examples that I can recall off the top of my head from FFXI:

Claustrum, the BLM Relic Weapon, is the staff wielded by Kan-E-Senna.
Tizona, the BLU Mythic Weapon, is one of Raubahn's swords.
Death Penalty and Annihilator are the two guns wielded by Merlwyb. The Death Penalty is both the famous weapon wielded by Vincent in VII and also the COR Mythic Weapon. The Annihilator is the RNG Relic weapon.
The Veil of Wiyu and the Omnilex (the Summoner and Scholar relic weapons, respectively) are from the Tactics series.

And, needless to say, a TON of monster designs were taken directly from XI (Crabs, Colibri, Mandoragora, Raptors, Chigos, Apkallu, Adamantoise, Goobbue, and technically Mammets, since they're just cuter versions of the Automatons that Puppetmasters got) and even some from XII.

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Actually, If its weapons that are unique to one or a few final fantasy games then I would put them under their respective games as official references. I'll add the weapon and armor references. I'll also add the Mammets reference as its own and the monsters as a general reference under Final Fantasy XI. Thank you!

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Originally Posted by SizeSmall

The dungeon "Cutter's Cry" seems awfully similar to that of the "Ant Lion's Den" from FF4, as well as these bosses.]

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Thanks, I'll add this.

Surprising how it hasn't been mentioned yet, but the Onion Helm item that was a bonus with the original version Collector's Edition, is of course based on the armour of the Onion Knight Job from FFIII (in 1.0 the rest of the armour was available through faction levequests) - it's effectively the earlier predecessor to the 'Helm of Light' item with ARR's CE (which resembles the design of the helm worn by the nameless Warrior of Light in Yoshitaka Amano's original artwork for FFI).

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Originally Posted by Enkidoh

Surprising how it hasn't been mentioned yet, but the Onion Helm item that was a bonus with the original version Collector's Edition, is of course based on the armour of the Onion Knight Job from FFIII (in 1.0 the rest of the armour was available through faction levequests) - it's effectively the earlier predecessor to the 'Helm of Light' item with ARR's CE (which resembles the design of the helm worn by the nameless Warrior of Light in Yoshitaka Amano's original artwork for FFI).

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FF3 is one of the only games I haven't played in the series. I knew the Onion Helm was some sort of reference, but I couldn't place it. Thanks! I'll add this.

Added a section to hold all references that contain major spoilers for the storyline. Thanks for all the references and information guys! The list has grown from 8 references all the way to 109. I'm sure there's more, so keep em coming! :D

mad cool bookmarked this for later reading :D

Thank you for posting the list of Final Fantasy references that are in Realm Reborn ^ω^ there really cool things to know about hehe.

haha thanks guys :)

So... I just noticed something weird. In the Waking Sands in a random back hallway, I found a miqo'te telling pointing a commanding finger at an Elezen female. The Elezen female was scraping the stone ground with a pitchfork. Why would she be scraping the ground with a pitchfork? All I could think is that this has to be a reference to something. I have no idea what, and it could be a reference to something not having to do with Final Fantasy at all. If anyone knows what thats about, let me know!

Some of the main garlean characters, resemble judges from ff12. In fact one of them, i forget his name, closely resembles Gabranth.

The garlean Empire more closely resembles the Archadian Empire in 12.

About FF11 i think Is better add the names of Qiqirn, Goblins and Mamool Ja cause their presence is in some quests and lore of ff14.

No need to add this cause isnt in the game but in the old lodestone, there was a Description of the Goblin Mutamix where is Alluded to a "Great Library" of The East, this reminded of the Library of the Ancients in FF5, Saronia in ff3, Daguerreo in FF9
Maybe one day will appear ingame :)

http://lodestone.finalfantasyxiv.com...bb0944292e00d9

One of the items dropped from small crabs references the Valkurm Dunes and the hardships players had getting through it in early versions of Final Fantasy XI.

In the cutscene that explains the empire loosing against the eorzean alliance the monster that destroys their flagship is called something like "Midgardwurm", it resembles a dragon snake. Clearly a reference to the midgard snake found in FF7 near the chocobo stables !

It's Midgardsormr. The World Serpent. Its from Viking mythology and its poison kills Thor after Thor kills it.

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Originally Posted by AranWade

sorry but this is a Norse Mythological Beast
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J%C3%B6rmungandr

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In Norse mythology, Jörmungandr (Old Norse: Jǫrmungandr, pronounced [ˈjɔrmuŋɡandr]), often written Jormungand, or Jörmungand and also known as the Midgard Serpent (Old Norse: Midgarðsormr),


It is in multiple games before and after FF7 but because the town in FF7 is Midgar (No D) they renamed it to Midgar Zolom (Zolom being a engrish mistranslation of sormr (serpent))

Confirmed of The allusion of FF13-2!

Serendipity, Goldsmith Guild Leader in Uldah
Serendipity was a Themepark in that game and she like be called "Sera"

http://ffxiv.gamerescape.com/wiki/Serendipity

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Originally Posted by Cairdeas

It's Midgardsormr. The World Serpent. Its from Viking mythology and its poison kills Thor after Thor kills it.

It is in multiple games before and after FF7 but because the town in FF7 is Midgar (No D) they renamed it to Midgar Zolom (Zolom being a engrish mistranslation of sormr (serpent))

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OK, Maybe :P but i think is more an allusion to the "myth" than to old FF, MIdgar Too Was in someways a reference to The Norse Mitology "Human World".
So as u said is a reccurring monster in all FF, hard say is a reference to one in particular.


http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/M...ormr#Etymology

Btw i just want add that no Other Final Fantsy have so many Allusions to the past! and seems FF11 and FF7 are the most Referenced.

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Originally Posted by Ardbob

4. During a storyline quest, you fight a "Flowering Sabotender" which is a reference to the "Flowing Cactoid" Hunt. (credit: aranwade)

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lol was Cronous who Found this not me. (page 7)

In FF wikia found this new Allusion:
the last battle from the Summoner quest line is against Belias-Egi, the essence of Belias. (tactis-FF12)

I didnt finish ARR story so i ask, the point 7 of FF12 isnt a spoiler?

oh, Heres one, lahabera, that red masked mage, His name is a reference to the back story of one of the esper's in 12.