Sadly to be able to ge tthe digi upgrade we have to wait til release :(Quote:
Originally Posted by Razzle
We'd still be having to pay less if we paid 2 different fees^^; it's say... $20 for the CE upgrade, then maybe $10 for the pre-order upgrade bonues (If they implemented this) would be $30 total. That doesn't sound too harsh for those that want just the fluff items and no codes.
Personally I don't think early access codes should be given with the 'upgrade' but that's just me^^;
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05-27-2013, 05:43 PMNix
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05-27-2013, 06:39 PMZenakuthey should make it 30 and give us all items i don't think we care about early access just the item themself. There people out there that just want every item they give out and willing to pay big money for it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nix
I myself going to upgrade to CE and love for a way to get the pre-order items if there not then w/e not going to bug me much i still have load of other stuff :) -
05-27-2013, 08:01 PMNixIsn't it like 30 for the game itself?Quote:
Originally Posted by Zenaku
I wouldn't mind the fluff items but $30 is a lot just for 2 fluff items, hell the CE digital upgrade is only $20...
There are some people that want them but there are also people that want them but don't want to be squeezed for every penny to get them. If they made the Pre order items $30 I may aswell just buy the bloody game disk; atleast then I'd have a physical copy of ARR that could collect some serious dust! haha
For just the fluff items (No early access codes and whatnot) I'd say $10 would be a fair price considering how much they're charging for the CE upgrade. -
05-27-2013, 08:13 PMZenakuQuote:
Originally Posted by Nix
30$ For the pre-order items and the 4 CE items No Early Access sorry if i did not make that clear on my post :( -
05-27-2013, 08:22 PMNixOh sorry Zen! I had kittens there for a minute hahaQuote:
Originally Posted by Zenaku
$30 for both sets of items in the one package would be awesome!
Sorry for misreading your post pumpkin, have a wonderful day! :) -
05-27-2013, 08:25 PMZenakunp :) and yes 30$ for both set would be awesome but i don't see it happening sadly :(Quote:
Originally Posted by Nix
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05-27-2013, 08:37 PMRazzleWell that's why I ask for pre-order and not only normal order option XP (which is what they do plan to give us)Quote:
Originally Posted by Nix
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05-27-2013, 08:52 PMNixAhh totally see where you're coming from; I thought you meant pre-order the upgrade for bonuses XD it's 4am cut me some slack! :pQuote:
Originally Posted by Razzle
Even if we had to wait til release, I wouldn't mind seeing an all-in-one fluff-pack for $30 lol :p -
05-27-2013, 09:25 PMRazzlelol Get some rest!Quote:
Originally Posted by Nix
Well I hope the mods can pass all of our suggestions and reply to us so we know not to have our hopes up for nothing XDD
I just hope SE don't see all the hype over mog cap and start a cash shop ( > . >
gib us in game quests and events for cute stuff ! -
05-28-2013, 07:49 AMNixI did! The sleeps were so good, thank you <3! hahaQuote:
Originally Posted by Razzle
I totally agree with you 100%; I would -love- quests for cute stoof! -
05-28-2013, 08:57 AMJacien
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05-28-2013, 09:28 AMSkyeWindbinderhttp://troll.me/images/jackie-chan-whut/wha.jpgQuote:
Originally Posted by Jacien
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05-28-2013, 01:18 PMJacienYou want to be entitled to pre-order bonus?Quote:
Originally Posted by SkyeWindbinder
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05-28-2013, 01:29 PMSkyeWindbinderAgain...Quote:
Originally Posted by Jacien
http://troll.me/images/jackie-chan-whut/wha.jpg
lol I'm sorry, I'm not trying to insult or anything, I just don't get what you mean. -
05-28-2013, 01:30 PMNixI think he's trying to say that the pre-order stuff should be left for only those who pre-order; that being said, it took a min to understand his first pic. If we're going to try and make witty posts let's make them clear! ;) hahaQuote:
Originally Posted by SkyeWindbinder
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05-28-2013, 01:38 PMSkyeWindbinderlol Yeah, I know.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nix
I honestly don't think there's anything wrong with legacy members wanting to be able to upgrade their account to pre-order CE status. After all, no one's asking for anything for free. I'm sure some of them would be willing to pay for it. I, personally, don't care either way. Everything in the CE package that I care about can be bought via eBay later, so it's whatever. lol -
05-28-2013, 01:54 PMNixHaha for sure!Quote:
Originally Posted by SkyeWindbinder
I'd like to be able to buy the pre-order bonuses without having to buy another copy of the game...
I already have the game and played it for 2 years, I don't want to drop another $30 on a copy of the game that's just going to sit and collect dust><;, but I'd happily pay a small fee to obtain the fluff items D: -
05-28-2013, 02:11 PMKatella_Avenlea
Click for Source:
"Q: Will people who have the 1.0 Collector's Edition be able to apply the pre-order bonus in-game items and early access rights to their old accounts if they pre-order the standard PC version of the game?
A: When registering the pre-order bonus code you will be able to select which FFXIV service account the bonus is applied to."
Click for Source: "Pre-Order Bonus In-Game Items
The bonus in-game items (a "Cait Sith Doll Minion" and "Mog Cap") will be delivered to the account that the pre-order bonus code has been registered to."
With that in mind, you can "buy" the pre-order items it would just cost you the price of a new game (roughly $29.99 at cheapest, or $79.99 at most if you want the whole kit-n-kaboodle).
Steps for existing users to get the pre-order items:
* Pre-order a new copy of FFXIV
* When you get it, apply the code to your existing Square Enix account
* Once code is put on an existing account, all items will be mog mailed to the existing characters on your account. -
05-28-2013, 02:23 PMAbriaelYep. We already know. That's not what this thread is about. This thread is about selling preorder privileges for a reasonable fee, which would be good for players and doubtlessly make Square Enix more money.Quote:
Originally Posted by Katella_Avenlea
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05-28-2013, 02:40 PMNarikoStar
I'm curious what a reasonable price is to you? If these items together were offered at $19.99 would that be enough for you?
And if taking the game Final Fantasy XIV: ARR out of the equation and Square Enix offered minions and or vanity items in the future priced at $9.99-14.99 would we just be seeing threads titled "Vanity items too much!" pop up?
While I don't per say disagree with what your asking, Square has already stated this is how you get the pre-order privileges and have decided to package minions along with those privileges. If you don't think $29.99 is a reasonable price to entitle yourself to these additional items then you can move on and be on your way. Other than the fact everyone has a right to one's opinion and the forums is a place to post that...or complain about it...
It seems like it's really coming down to your not willing to pay for the price they're asking for. Thus I'm curious if these items were simply priced at $29.99 alone without the game would this thread still exist? Or would we have another thread titled "These Vanity items are priced too high..."
Just think it's beating a dead horse when it's already been stated how to obtain these privilages... but again your entitled to your opinion and ability to post about it. -
05-28-2013, 02:58 PMNix
I think my reasonable price would be - $10 for the pre order items, since it's only 2 items and the CE items are being listed at $20 (I would totally go a bit higher though as long as it wasn't super extortionate lol). Paying another $20 for less items doesn't seem so cool D:
That being said, I have to note that this would not include any codes for early access etc, it'd literally just be for the ingame items.
This would put all the fluff items at a combined total of $30, which is pretty reasonable (I think, at least).
We could order the items if we pre-ordered the game, but we've already got our copy of the game so there's no point in getting another to collect dust. Some people may have a friend who'd take the copy off their hands, but all my friends that play MMOs already have the game so it'd literally sit on my shelf and weep.
As far as I've seen (I have been kinda derping this week), I have not seen a rep anywhere say "The only way you'll definitely be able to get these items is through pre-order." I haven't seen a rep shoot down Abriel's request anywhere.
They're allowing people to digitally upgrade to CE for a fee, why not pre-order? It'd be pretty much the same deal, trade cash for fluff.
The biggest problem with this is that it's NOT about paying the $30 to get the items, it's being forced to buy an entirely new copy of the game that would be wasted to get them.
If I didn't already own XIV, I wouldn't give it a second thought, but I do. Pre-ordering a game you already own and have played really stinks. -
05-28-2013, 03:22 PMNarikoStarTo which was why I asked, if Square Enix had decided to offer these items as a stand alone package for $29.99 would we really be seeing anyone argue over this?Quote:
Originally Posted by Nix
And while I'm sure we'd see threads instead titled along the lines saying "Vanity items cost too much!" and player's have the right to express that on the forums, that is what the company has chosen to do, much to how they have decided to include these items as a pre-order privilege and not allowed the ability to upgrade a 'pre-order' status. (Because lets face, it you'd be buying the items at that point- not a 'pre-order' status.)
While you have every right to argue or give an opinion why it shouldn't have happened. It did, and that was the companies choice to do so. As Hiir posted a few pages back;
The companies decision was to include the items in a pre-order privilege. If they were to change it at this point they would have to re-give a chance to all those who have already bought the game simply for the items; much as they are in turn giving the chance to those who would not have bought the game again just for the in game items.Quote:
Originally Posted by HiirNoivl
So whether it happens at this point is really irrelevant, I'm just posting valid points why the company will not do this at this point. To why I say this thread is beating the dead horse.
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05-28-2013, 03:25 PMZenakuIf pre-order items and the CE upgrade together was price at 29.99$ yes i would buy it without issue. Because if i pre-order the game that would cost me 30+$ then 19.99$ to pay for the upgrade to get the CE items. Overall i don't see the issue on 1.0 players willing to pay for 6 items together such a hard thing to ask.Quote:
Originally Posted by NarikoStar
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05-28-2013, 03:27 PMNixIt'd be really stupid for them to do that seeing as the game itself was $29.99... Where I can see where you're coming from, you already know the answer to that question would be a resounding 'yes' because who would pay $30 just for fluff and no game, when the package for both is the same price?Quote:
Originally Posted by NarikoStar
If we're gonna throw dollar amounts around let's make them reasonable and not something that would bait an argument.
As for pre-orders that have already gone out; You can cancel pre-orders e_e lol so no one would be out anything if they decided to switch it up.
If SE does turn around and say "Hey, we are not going to offer the fluff items separately." I wouldn't mind at all, I was kinda wishful thinking that it may have been an oversight not to offer the items. It'd suck not to get them but I'm not going to foam at the mouth over it.
No one's making demands here, it's just a simple question of "Hey, would you give us a way to obtain these items without making us purchase something we have already purchased in the past".
If we're going to post our opinions, let's try to make them sound less insulting.
Edit: in my post I'm only talking about the pre-order items and not the CE stuff (Since that's already being offered), just don't want any confooshun. -
05-28-2013, 03:44 PMNarikoStar
While I do agree $29.99 wouldn't go over with the masses, I believe there are players (including myself) who would be willing to pay decent sums of money for vanity items whether or not I'm paying that amount for the actual in game item or a physical item attached to it.
And while I agree we'd be the minority. I do believe there are those who will throw there money at Square Enix for in-game items, and Square Enix knows this.
While this does not justify the argument any more it's happened before in a previous MMO they've had...
FFXI had items priced highly (although they did come with items, many players bought it simply for the in-game item)
Tidal Talisment
(Might I add this was released during Einherjar prime days and many end game players bought it simply for the quick teleport to Nashamu)
Harpscord
(While it did come with a CD and many did buy it for the OST, there were others including myself who simply bought it for the mog house item)
So again, While I don't disagree with asking for the ability to buy the items alone, Square Enix does have evidence to show players will spend decent sums of money ($30+) even when it is attached to a physical item, many bought it simply for the in-game item rather than the physical item and the choice to buy them separately was not an option. -
05-28-2013, 03:50 PMNixHaha for sure, there are those who would sell their firstborn for the items, sadly I'm not one of those chaps :(.Quote:
Originally Posted by NarikoStar
I'm frugal as heck so even parting with the $20 for the CE upgrade is not something I'd usually do; these items only really come around once and it'd be nice to 'invest' (I guess that's the term?) in them.
I'd hate to miss out on the moogle cap but I just can't bring myself to pre-order the game and then have it go to waste lol ; ;. If I had someone who'd take the code and actually put it to use, then I would feel a lot better about it.
I do remember when the talisman first came out, people would be offering large sums of money in whitegate shouts for a talisman-port haha (Because waiting on the boat is soooooooo CoP!).
I have to admit, it really is wishful thinking on my part that they 'may' offer a different way to get the pre-order stuff, where the probability of it actually happening is really rather slim lol ;;. Hell, if they did offer another way to get them I'm sure there would be more people who would fork out the extra $10~$15~$whatever to get it because they wouldn't be forced to purchase something they already had. It could work out really well!
Aaaah~ sweet, sweet coffee *sip*
Have a wonderful day Nari :) -
05-28-2013, 03:56 PMNarikoStar
Agreed'd - And for the record, I missed out on the tidal talisman and I regretted it every single time I had to go to einherjar. From that day I vow'd to buy every. single. vanity. item.
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05-28-2013, 04:00 PMNixOh no! haha, I would have loved the necklace but every time I pulled the product page up my husband gave me a death stare that not even 50 grilled cheese sammiches could placate. In the end I relented.Quote:
Originally Posted by NarikoStar
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05-28-2013, 04:26 PMAbriaelThat's a bit of a silly question. The value of the items/early access is obviously not 30 bucks. That's the price of the games. The preorder bonuses are just that, a bonus.Quote:
Originally Posted by NarikoStar
A reasonable fee for two in-game items and the early access would be between 5 and 10 bucks.
By the way, the "they already decided!" argument is a flawed one. This forum is made for feedback and criticism, and nothing says that they simply didn't overlook the possibility, and that they can't change their mind and add the option if there's enough demand.
Incidentally, the items you named (harpsicord and tidal talisman) weren't "highly priced". They were bonuses for the purchase of physical goods, hence they were free. A bonus has no price.
In this case, it's a simple matter of convenience for both users and Square Enix. It's rather obvious that only a vast minority will repurchase something they already are entitled to get for free for a full price. And Square Enix doesn't even get a net gain of $30 for all those purchases. Including all the manifacturing and distribution/retail fees, it's a miracle if they get $10 per box, and they won't sell many of those box to those that already have an account.
On the other hand, offer the bonuses for a reasonable price, and you'll get roughly the same net gain per unit, selling an exponentially higher quantity of units.
Again, I keep being baffled by those that oppose Square Enix giving people more option to give them money. In commerce offering different options is almost always positive.
"Please Square Enix, don't give us stuff (even if we'd pay for it) heavens forbid you spoil us!"
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05-28-2013, 04:51 PMZenakuI think people keep forgetting when we say 29.99$ we mean for all 6 items.Quote:
Originally Posted by Abriael
Helm of light,Coeurl Mount,Behemoth Barding,Baby Behemoth Minion and Cait sith doll minion/Mog Cap
We asking if we can pre-order the CE upgrade and just make it 25$ or 30$ and add the two pre-order items. We know there not going to do so it just hopeful wishing. -
05-28-2013, 06:39 PMAbriael1: that's not what she was talking aboutQuote:
Originally Posted by Zenaku
2: just allowing people to preorder the CE upgrade does not solve the problem, as it would penalize those that purchased the 1.0 collector's edition to begin with, which would be paradoxical. -
05-28-2013, 06:41 PMZenakuCan't make everyone happy anyways i don't see us getting the pre-order items anyways. The people who really want it they just have to pre-order the game sadly :(Quote:
Originally Posted by Abriael
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05-29-2013, 12:33 AMAbriaelSure can make everyone happy, by giving options.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zenaku
That's what this thread is for. -
05-29-2013, 01:29 AMSkyeWindbinder
Well, it looks like an answer has already been given as to how we get the CE and pre-order items. We'd have to buy another copy of the game. Really, as a legacy member, I don't give a spit. I already get some cool things just for being Legacy, such as a lower subscription fee and an exclusive in-game choco mount. I don't necessarily need anything else. As for the out-of-game bonuses, well, in case you didn't get my message the first two times...
http://blog.tolunaquick.com/wp-conte.../ebay-logo.jpg
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05-29-2013, 01:39 AMAbriaelNo it hasn't. And I don't expect it to be instant as well. Even if they were considering to implement something like this, it's no decision that can be taken in a couple days.Quote:
Originally Posted by SkyeWindbinder
This thread is not about "getting" things. It's about being able to pay a reasonable fee for them, granting SE a 100% net gain.Quote:
I already get some cool things
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05-29-2013, 03:16 AMSkyeWindbinderI thought Katella already said it's been confirmed that you could buy the items, but it would cost about the same as buying a new game. That seems like an answer to me.Quote:
Originally Posted by Abriael
I'm aware of what the thread s about. My point was merely that it didn't matter too much to me since what I want (from the CE version anyway) I could get another way (probably a lot cheaper), and the rest I could live without.Quote:
Originally Posted by Abriael
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05-29-2013, 03:58 AMAbriaelNo official response has been given. That was just a condescending "you can already get them for a fee! Just buy the whole game durr!" statement.Quote:
Originally Posted by SkyeWindbinder
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05-29-2013, 04:05 AMSkyeWindbinderlol I don't really think it was very condescending. It seemed to me like just an answer.Quote:
Originally Posted by Abriael
Granted, not a lot of people are going to like that answer. However, that's the way the cookie crumbles. But who knows, maybe they'll change their mind. Though, given the statement made, there seems to be about as much of a chance of that happening as allowing people to buy their way into legacy. (shrug) Yeah, it kind of sucks. But what are ya gonna do? -
05-29-2013, 06:41 AMHvinire
The pre-order bonuses are only available to those who pre-order, and we currently have no plans of offering them elsewhere. If you would like to receive pre-order bonuses, you will need to pre-order a copy of FFXIV: ARR.
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05-29-2013, 06:41 AMNixAwww maaan that really sucks :(Quote:
Originally Posted by Hvinire
Thanks though Cactoooos