If SE can't handle exploits now, why will they be able to in 2.0?

exploit = abusing a bug in the game. This isnt a bug its just an easy possibility to earn seals, if thats a good idea or not is another question ^^

I have to agree with the Garuda exploit, I've been trying for weeks to get people together, I've even offered to help the people who still need the baby fight, I have yet to gather enough people to do it even once. I know another person in my LS tried to form one and failed as well. The worst part is that I really wanted to get the win before the end of 1.0; it looks like that won't happen.

ITT: SE ONLY PATCHES CONTENT WHEN CASUAL PLAYERS WANT TO DO IT!!!


srsly QQ gtfo

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Originally Posted by HiirNoivl

It's not an exploit. It's only an exploit if the system wasn't working as intended.

I bought a bunch of SB gear and made lots of gil off the materia I converted it to.

Is that an exploit? I don't want to spend seals on things I won't use and will only clutter inventory.

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The use of exploit in MMOs is ambiguous as it's simply means to profit off of something unintended. In 2010, people exploited Necrologis Pages due to them spawning mobs endlessly, it was unintended for players to sit there and spam mobs that spawned since SE figured people would be trying to complete the leve, not purposefully farming it and failing it.

No, it wasn't glitched or broken either, yet SE themselves called it an exploit.

Yes, but the leve was functioning properly as they programmed it. And that's the key. How people used the leve was immaterial, there was nothing wrong with the leve itself. No one got disciplined by that. Same with Garuda, they didn't expect that people would figure out a way to beat her so simply. But that's how they programmed it so they just had to give kudos to the players for being so clever and strong and eat it. Same with the case of Atomos.

Contrast that to the Cure spamming exploit at launch. That was NOT working as intended and if people didn't own up to exploiting a clear programming error and accept the rollback of characters they were disciplined, at times permanently.

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Yes, but the leve was functioning properly as they programmed it. And that's the key. How people used the leve was immaterial, there was nothing wrong with the leve itself. No one got disciplined by that. Same with Garuda, they didn't expect that people would figure out a way to beat her so simply. But that's how they programmed it so they just had to give kudos to the players for being so clever and strong and eat it. Same with the case of Atomos.

Contrast that to the Cure spamming exploit at launch. That was NOT working as intended and if people didn't own up to exploiting a clear programming error and accept the rollback of characters they were disciplined, at times permanently.

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If the dev calls it an exploit its an exploit. If you use the system as designed to create an effect they didnt intend its an exploit EVEN if the system allowed for that action (when the system doesnt allow for an action that happens thats usually a hack, or some may call a bug (but I wouldnt because the bug allowed for it to happen - and bugs are apart of the system))..

Your point is...?

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Your point is...?

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Unless I miss read your post, it appears you are trying to make stupid distinctions in different types of exploits.

:rolleyes: Yeah your post was so much clearer

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Originally Posted by HiirNoivl

Yes, but the leve was functioning properly as they programmed it. And that's the key. How people used the leve was immaterial, there was nothing wrong with the leve itself. No one got disciplined by that. Same with Garuda, they didn't expect that people would figure out a way to beat her so simply. But that's how they programmed it so they just had to give kudos to the players for being so clever and strong and eat it. Same with the case of Atomos.

Contrast that to the Cure spamming exploit at launch. That was NOT working as intended and if people didn't own up to exploiting a clear programming error and accept the rollback of characters they were disciplined, at times permanently.

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Wasnt here at launch, whats cure exploit.
I wanna know :-)

You stopped caring about achievents? Then y are you going for the behest ones? Seemed to like to talk alot about that in ls

http://support.na.square-enix.com/ne...a58df0c719ee44

The melee would engage the mob and not kill it while the mages spam healed the party because they would get EXP per cure and not per mob killed. They would level literally like 10x a leve or something crazy like that.

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You stopped caring about achievents? Then y are you going for the behest ones? Seemed to like to talk alot about that in ls

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Ive completed them all? Because I had nothing better to do. they were fun o.o I could do them while i worked or studied.

I don't think SE sees the whole Atomos seals/drops thing as an exploit though and here's why:

They changed how it worked once, well after people figured this out and were talking about it openly. They changed the seal acquisition rate to be random through making it so you only ever got the one guaranteed cluster. They did not change the seal exchange rate on any of the drops items, nor did they change the vendor price. They were clearly concerned solely with the consistent seal acquisition rate.

How pissed off would people be if they did some kind of rollback on Monday though? XD Nah, they couldn't at this point. Not after it's been so many days since.

How is something that you could always do, and people always did, an exploit because of one event?

People didn't just start selling Dawn Drops because of this event, it's always been good. Farm Caravan, Spiritbond, get Hamlet Mats, turn seals into gil.