111122311123 era is BACK!!!

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Originally Posted by Fadigre

You girls are ridiculous.

I honestly doubt we start with 1,000 TP. This was a demo build put together purely to demonstrate what ARR is.
Imagine if the crowd were wowed by watching Yoshida having to build TP to use his flashy attacks?

He's in God-mode, it's how demos work!
Look at his cooldowns, c'mon!

This is probably why we weren't supposed to see any of this gameplay to begin with

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They've already announced you build TP up to 1000 with regen outside of battles.

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Originally Posted by Ingolf

They've already announced you build TP up to 1000 with regen outside of battles.

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Yes, just like how BLM and WHM build up MP outside of battle. Why does this thread even exist?

Oh..

because Rokien.

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Originally Posted by Ingolf

They've already announced you build TP up to 1000 with regen outside of battles.

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Waiter, waiter!
I'd like a napkin please as I just got served.

Stamina bar was merely a setback. With the power of Dalamud, Rokien will have his vengeance

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Originally Posted by Nuru

Yes, just like how BLM and WHM build up MP outside of battle. Why does this thread even exist?

Oh..

because Rokien.

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I'm just stating facts. The regain doesn't bother me at all. I like it.

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Originally Posted by Ingolf

I'm just stating facts. The regain doesn't bother me at all. I like it.

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Not only that but they could introduce gear/materia that increases your max TP, which would be really cool for certain classes.

Quick someone find the Rokien cycle pic.

Dear devs, please put a troll type mob in 2.0 and call it a Rokien.

Pleeeeaaaase.

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Originally Posted by MeeYow

Dear devs, please put a troll type mob in 2.0 and call it a Rokien.

Pleeeeaaaase.

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He's not trolling.

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Originally Posted by MeeYow

Dear devs, please put a troll type mob in 2.0 and call it a Rokien.

Pleeeeaaaase.

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The problem is these are his honest opinions.

I mean they're complete and utter balls most of the time, but they're still opinions he's entitled to (don't get me wrong I wish he stopped opening these silly topics all the time too).

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Originally Posted by Dawiichan

Except stamina made you wait to do a regular attack.

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Wait ?! Wait ?! How come stamina made you WAIT when you didn't have a delay ?! You can't really bring that argument for saying the old system is bad compared to AUTO-attack

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Originally Posted by Reynhart

Wait ?! Wait ?! How come stamina made you WAIT when you didn't have a delay ?! You can't really bring that argument for saying the old system is bad compared to AUTO-attack

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What he's saying is that you had to wait to do ANYTHING, even normal attacks. When you ran out of stamina you couldn't do anything, with our current and new system even if you run out of TP you can still attack.

Rokien.... I try not to pay any mind to the comments of others when referring to an individual but I have really grown to dislike you and your threads these past months. You are getting almost annoying as a few of our older members from around forum launch times whose names i will not speak lest I bring them from the dead.

Please stop... :(

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Originally Posted by Rokien

Am I complaining here? No, I'm not. In fact I'm welcoming this old system back!

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Wasn't the reason for a new 2 was because the old system failed so bad

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YFl9T...ayer_embedded#!

Watch the battle that starts around 2:15.

TP goes down as he uses weaponskills
TP does not regenerate over time, for the 20 or so seconds that he does not have full TP.
TP does regenerate when he uses Jump. That is the only time during that fight that it goes back up.

It's a short battle but it appears that things are pretty much exactly the same as they are now, except you start with full TP.

Don't you spam buttons in all games?

I really do think the rokien hate is a bit much.
I mean, need i point out rokien didn't make a thread about grass?
So his +/- ratio has to take into account the lack of those threads.
Also, his threads are generally contained.
You don't see three or four of them on the front page daily.
once in a while theres a new one or two, and they sure get a lot of responses.
OH MY.
Course i suppose around here trolls get more responses than anyone else,
but unlike pure trolls, he offers actual ideas.
Now, they may not be popular ideas, like that political from the communist party who runs in Texas.
but they are legitimate ideas... as ... well, is this.
Although this is not one of his better topics,
simply because the topic is kind of unchangeable.
They are not going to overhaul the battle system.
the 1121433241 thing though ... we're going to be doing it.

Mmmm, I like this. Rather be more fast paced then slow.

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Originally Posted by shanvhere

Wasn't the reason for a new 2 was because the old system failed so bad

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I think he is referring to the mid system, not the old system. The old one was scrapped nearly immediately. The last one stayed for awhile and I too wish they just fixed it up.. but its not that bad AA is nice at times how it is now in the current system. Either way they were both enjoyable in different ways imo.

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Originally Posted by Livioti

Rokien, you are so much of a bigot that your picture should literally be next to the definition.

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Are you friggin stupid? Do you even know what a Bigot is? Don't say things like that unless you know what your talking about. It is wildly inappropriate.

you got your rotation wrong...noob!

btw think wow stole the "stamina" design for monk! guess well see how it works there...
If its good guess we can all pitch in a penny and get Rokien a wow sub.

Some of the observations others have made about how it seems the new system is gonna work does make me want to see this puppy in action even more though =D (WS consume tp that starts out full, while auto attacks replenish said tp) this kinda design is really doing nothing more than taking away the boring 20 seconds or so at the start of any given fight and giving tanks a decent shot at aoe hate without having to spend those same boring 20 seconds.

HATE that word, noob. So over used.

From seeing the gameplay videos it looks like there is a 2 sec GCD similar to WoW and that TP regen is plentiful so you are able to push more buttons as your abilities come off GDC.

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Originally Posted by Rokien

With the new tp system, you will now be spamming 11112221133444 again!~

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I don't know about you but that's basically what I do in every computer game..?
I actually prefer spamming buttons over looking like a retard with a plastic lightsaber in my hand playing dance dance revolution to beat Darth Vader on PS3 move?^^

On a serious note - that's actually something I was worried about too when I heard about the new action system. At least if we only get TP regen and no TP from attacks..which is something we don't know yet.
So, like every other time, Rokien's overreacting again :)

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Originally Posted by Rokien

How is starting with 100% TP draining it and regaining it back not the same thing as stamina? It's just masked.

Also the 1 key is the exact same thing as 2 key or the 4key. It's all in the mind. The point is, it's the same thing.

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It's not at all the same thing dude...if your argument is because we start full and gain it back thru battle then you should say the same thing about our current battle system...while you don't start with max TP you still gain it back. It literally will be jus like our system now by gaining to per hit but you just start off full to get to the next figh with less down time...

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Originally Posted by Rokien

ya, you know what blm is? You cast the same spells over and over again 12, 12, 12, 123, 12, 123. And use some side abilities. I mean, what do youeven use on ifrit as blm!?! Blah, at least before thm had Dots and all this other cool stuff you could use.


Edit: Umm if mobs die in 20seconds, there is no point for hate. SPAM AOE!!!!

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ok so if mobs die in 20 sec due to WS spams do u know how much will we regain TP? like 300tp/3secs? cuz its gonna be like that trust me mate there wont be ws spams all over the mob + imagine it as "Doom Spike costs 2k tp in 2.0" for example and the rate to regain 2k tp again is like 30sec-45secs.
remember XI TP moves system for example sure we had to hit to get tp we could use Meditate or Absorb TP and u can even start a battle with 300tp -hence that even when the WS had 0 cool down mobs took long to kill-

In the end, we will always be pressing keys on a keyboard. Until the day comes when we can play games with our minds, this won't change.

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Originally Posted by Bowen

In the end, we will always be pressing keys on a keyboard. Until the day comes when we can play games with our minds, this won't change.

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Or voice commands. Instead of typing the 1 you say 1

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Originally Posted by Ryujin_Ketu

It's not at all the same thing dude...if your argument is because we start full and gain it back thru battle then you should say the same thing about our current battle system...while you don't start with max TP you still gain it back. It literally will be jus like our system now by gaining to per hit but you just start off full to get to the next figh with less down time...

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No, it's totally different, because you'll be able to start a fight with 1-2 WSes, instead of auto-attacking and staring at your screen for 10 seconds. That makes the game horrible and s**tty and every variant thereof.

More complaining ? less playing? poor Mods.

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Originally Posted by Felis

Or voice commands. Instead of typing the 1 you say 1

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You say voice commands, and I instantly think of that first episode of Shin Getter Robo vs Neo Getter Robo where you find out the protag has to scream out his attacks with burning passion in order for the robot to do anything.

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Originally Posted by Bowen

In the end, we will always be pressing keys on a keyboard. Until the day comes when we can play games with our minds, this won't change.

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That's what Rokien is expecting, he even said so himself.

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Originally Posted by Masamune1004

That's what Rokien is expecting, he even said so himself.

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I don't think I like this Rokien fellow.

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Originally Posted by Bowen

I don't think I like this Rokien fellow.

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You should play with me before you make that call. I'm actually fun~ and a good player.

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Originally Posted by Wolfie

No, it's totally different, because you'll be able to start a fight with 1-2 WSes, instead of auto-attacking and staring at your screen for 10 seconds. That makes the game horrible and s**tty and every variant thereof.

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Invigorate ftw? I don't have to wait 10 seconds to do anything, just saying. And you won't be spamming WS's in any content that is remotely challenging regardless (normal mobs, probably you will).

My point was it is still the same thing wether you can spam skills at the start or not...either way your TP will regen per hit (more than likely) and eventually you will bee down to around 0 TP and then you will have that rebuilding period..soooo...it will be basically the same.

And who the hell cares, suck it up and enjoy...it's gonna be epic!

They should make it like ffxi where you gain tp from one battle and make the next one a short fight. A good mix of long and short fights is nice with strategy. Not 6 weaponskills in 20 seconds every fight.

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Originally Posted by Ryujin_Ketu

Invigorate ftw? I don't have to wait 10 seconds to do anything, just saying. And you won't be spamming WS's in any content that is remotely challenging regardless (normal mobs, probably you will).

My point was it is still the same thing wether you can spam skills at the start or not...either way your TP will regen per hit (more than likely) and eventually you will bee down to around 0 TP and then you will have that rebuilding period..soooo...it will be basically the same.

And who the hell cares, suck it up and enjoy...it's gonna be epic!

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I was being sarcastic.

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Originally Posted by Wolfie

I was being sarcastic.

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Lol, damnit! I need to get better at reading sarcasm ;)

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Originally Posted by khaled

More complaining ? less playing? poor Mods.

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lol wonder if the mods just have rokien on ignore by now

Hi husband