New Leisure Wear just Dropped!!!

Clothing style hitting too close to reality than to fantasy, in my opinion.
Looks nice but I'm not giving more money to Square than my basic subscription if I choose to keep it up for 2025.

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Originally Posted by ovIm

There is a certain difference between Sci-Fantasy kinda aesthetic, and our real life modern aesthetic.

Personally speaking, I don't mind a Fantasy scifi kinda approach, see the late allagan PVP armors, the tactical outfits, or as an example outside of the game, Phantasy Star Online looks. Thats the kind of vibe we find in S9 too, imho. Whats destroying (my) immersion is seeing outfits that we all could find in a current year fashion magazine.

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I have tried explaining this to so many people, and no one really seems to understand it. FF has always had futuristic/modern-esque clothing, but always in a distinct style that is clearly "Final Fantasy". This is just real-life modern street fashion.

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Originally Posted by Mimilu

Lately, I feel like the glamour they've been adding to the game could be pushed more in terms of design and details. Some more "Y2k-Tetsuya Nomura juice", if you will. Or maybe some peak Yoshitaka

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I don't care how meme'd it is or what anyone else thinks I live for Nomura's 60,000 belts and zippers designs of the early 2000s and I miss that look in his more recent characters. I wish we could get some more of that in FFXIV. Yeah it's "modern" but it also kinda pushed it beyond something you'd easily see IRL.

Like, give me more of that impractical and asymmetrical nonsense, and less... generic slacks. (Looking at you treasure map glam we've been getting every patch)

I'd understand asking for that much if it was account-wide, but even then, it would be expensive for a digital outfit, imo.

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Originally Posted by yesnt

Don't understand why people defend everything SE does.

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Defending one outfit = defending everything SE does now? Yikes. You don't like it (or, you don't seem to) and you make that clear. I do like the outfit, I make that clear. Suddenly I'm defending the entire company and everything it does and stands for because I like one outfit and happen to like both of these tops?

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Originally Posted by Bekuta

I have tried explaining this to so many people, and no one really seems to understand it. FF has always had futuristic/modern-esque clothing, but always in a distinct style that is clearly "Final Fantasy". This is just real-life modern street fashion.

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Because plenty of people don't care about immersion and SE/CB3 don't seem to care about visual integrity/style of the game much (alot of map outfits since ShB have been modern-ish and while I like alot of them, I feel out of place when doing the MSQ). I think GW2 fell into this too, kept pushing increasingly modern/cutesy looking outfits. (they even have their own knockoff nightmare inducing fat cat) Why? It sells. That's all.

'Does this item fit into our world?' No? 'Doesn't matter, people like it anyway'.

I wouldn't be surprised if they're peaking at popular black magic (if you know what I mean) and trying to gauge what's popular or what sells.

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Originally Posted by Rueby

Because plenty of people don't care about immersion and SE/CB3 don't seem to care about visual integrity/style of the game much (alot of map outfits since ShB have been modern-ish and while I like alot of them, I feel out of place when doing the MSQ). I think GW2 fell into this too, kept pushing increasingly modern/cutesy looking outfits. (they even have their own knockoff nightmare inducing fat cat) Why? It sells. That's all.

'Does this item fit into our world?' No? 'Doesn't matter, people like it anyway'.

I wouldn't be surprised if they're peaking at popular black magic (if you know what I mean) and trying to gauge what's popular or what sells.

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Absolutely that's the case. There's a shocking amount of people who play this game who just don't care about Final Fantasy as whole, which I mean, whatever, but why play a Final Fantasy game just to applaud it getting filled with generic streetwear? Plenty of other people take the "well you don't have to wear it so who cares?" stance, as if I don't still have to see people wearing it, breaking whatever little style the game has left. It's disappointing; I'm already on the edge with this game, but every time one of these types of outfits gets added I get closer and closer to jumping ship, even though I'd really prefer not to. I wish the Dragon Quest MMO was more accessible over here in the West, but then again maybe it'd go down the same path if it was.

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Originally Posted by Destati

I don't care how meme'd it is or what anyone else thinks I live for Nomura's 60,000 belts and zippers designs of the early 2000s and I miss that look in his more recent characters. I wish we could get some more of that in FFXIV. Yeah it's "modern" but it also kinda pushed it beyond something you'd easily see IRL.

Like, give me more of that impractical and asymmetrical nonsense, and less... generic slacks. (Looking at you treasure map glam we've been getting every patch)

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To me, even though his character designs were based on (at the time) modern high and street fashion and aesthetics, he pushed and stylized them to the point that it was fantastical and fun and that's what I think is missing from the glamour we've been getting lately (the Vanguard set is probably the closest). (´• ω •`) ♡

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Originally Posted by Destati

I don't care how meme'd it is or what anyone else thinks I live for Nomura's 60,000 belts and zippers designs of the early 2000s and I miss that look in his more recent characters. I wish we could get some more of that in FFXIV. Yeah it's "modern" but it also kinda pushed it beyond something you'd easily see IRL.

Like, give me more of that impractical and asymmetrical nonsense, and less... generic slacks. (Looking at you treasure map glam we've been getting every patch)

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Nomura is all about plaid these days

And you are right. His designs are "modern" but in a "this could only exist in Final Fantasy" kind of way, even if he's inspired in harajuku. Just look at Gaia's design for instance

Unlike those uninspired, hideous, The Sims DLC tier costumes they add in XIV

I like them but I only wear them when lounging around with friends at my home, my main is from another world, so in my case, they fit but I understand people also want a certain look to be lore friendly. Maybe they should add a feature to make everyone's glam be their default starter ones according to their race for those that don't want to see these glams at all? It would also solve not seeing the Chocbo head glams in dungeons, raids and trials cutscenes. A more complex system is make everyone's glam look like the NPC's of the region you're in, so players in Limsa would be dressed like Lominsan NPC's or in Kugane, the far eastern glams or Solution Nine, the modern glams only there. Can something like that be possible?

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Originally Posted by Bekuta

I have tried explaining this to so many people, and no one really seems to understand it. FF has always had futuristic/modern-esque clothing, but always in a distinct style that is clearly "Final Fantasy". This is just real-life modern street fashion.

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The hat has a little chocobo pin on it.

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Originally Posted by Lilapop

You don't like it (or, you don't seem to)

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I didn't say nor imply that. I love it, but I don't like the way this is delivered and priced. Way too expensive, total exploitation of the customers.

looks cute and all but it's way too expensive for me

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Originally Posted by Fawkes

The hat has a little chocobo pin on it.

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Ah okay nevermind, I take back everything I said because there's a Chocobo pin on the hat.

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Originally Posted by Bekuta

Ah okay nevermind, I take back everything I said because there's a Chocobo pin on the hat.

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Solid take.

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Originally Posted by Bekuta

I have tried explaining this to so many people, and no one really seems to understand it. FF has always had futuristic/modern-esque clothing, but always in a distinct style that is clearly "Final Fantasy". This is just real-life modern street fashion.

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Honestly I even found recent story locations like solution 9 kinda off, Final Fantasy sci fi always had fairly unique aesthetics, be it Esthar, Ragnarok, Midgar, the Gestahlian Empire, Pandaemonium or Zanarkand. Solution 9 just feels like a pretty generic cyberpunk wallpaper, angular buildings surrounded by neon and techwear. Its a far cry from the Amano weirdness of the Allagan empire or the Garleans with their love of freaky Guyver armor for instance.

Solution 9 looks like it was designed by someone who spent too long watching the many moderately sized channels that use the same style of layouts and sets.
Even the music sounds like generic twitch stream lo-fi.

Idk, when I first saw Solution 9 in game and whenever I visit the area I always think it's like a remastered version of Clyez City.

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Originally Posted by ReynTime

Solution 9 looks like it was designed by someone who spent too long watching the many moderately sized channels that use the same style of layouts and sets.
Even the music sounds like generic twitch stream lo-fi.

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I think that may have been intentional considering how the lore and setting of the raids are shaping up to be.

For that price it should be account wide and have a viera/hroth compatible hat.

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Originally Posted by Wired-Lain

Solution 9 just feels like a pretty generic cyberpunk wallpaper, angular buildings surrounded by neon and techwear.

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It feels this way because s9's aesthetics matches our current idea of futurism. Give it a few decades and it will seem as quaint as 70's retro futurism.

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Originally Posted by ReynTime

Solution 9 looks like it was designed by someone who spent too long watching the many moderately sized channels that use the same style of layouts and sets.
Even the music sounds like generic twitch stream lo-fi.

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Damn, yea, I was having trouble pinpointing what it felt like to me. It absolutely feels like something you'd find on Wallpaper Engine titled "Cyberpunk Neon City /w Lofi Hip-hop".

There's no point entertaining these players, who are just wrong (and selfish) Most glamour in the game is fantasy glamour. The modern clothing is usually harder to get, costs more gil, or real currency

I DO NOT like fantasy glamour. People need to understand there are people like me who NEED modern clothes glam. Being Noctis for the last 6y BOOSTED my experience and I'm much happier, especially with a MALE GLAMOUR that isn't lazy, unimaginative, or pants #12.

As for immersion, then don't use modern clothing. It's a FANTASY game. That doesn't mean medieval only. I am Noct. I have 0 issues feeling immersed. Skill issue on you tbh

There needs to be more modern bc SE still screws over masculine (and nonbinary) characters

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Originally Posted by millktea

Most glamour in the game is fantasy glamour.
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I DO NOT like fantasy glamour
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It's a FANTASY game.

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It almost sounds like you don't like the game.

My rage is simply that men show less skin. AGAIN.

Oh? Sounds like you are making things up and thinking it as fact.

You are not me, therefore your comment is 100% irrelevant

I do not need to like med fantasy armour to like something

Speak only for yourself as you cannot speak for others. I'm me. Only I can answer for me. Stay in your lane.

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Originally Posted by millktea

My rage is simply that men show less skin. AGAIN.

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What are you talking about? Leisurewear looks the same on M and F.

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Originally Posted by millktea

Oh? Sounds like you are making things up and thinking it as fact.

You are not me, therefore your comment is 100% irrelevant

I do not need to like med fantasy armour to like something

Speak only for yourself as you cannot speak for others. I'm me. Only I can answer for me. Stay in your lane.

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For something that is 100% irrelevant you are really upset.

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Originally Posted by yesnt

What are you talking about? Leisurewear looks the same on M and F.
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They are right tho, male version is much more modest in showing midriff for some reason.

I think all the game should become modern, to cater to the rising populace of clubbers and true gamers.
I think all the resources should be shifted to various modern fashion, so players could have fashion shows and Yoshi P could sell more clothing collabs for more funds to make the game shine more.

I think the haters dont understand that Final Fantasy is just a title, I think we should also replace chocobos with cars already and motorbikes and stop pretending that this is fantasy. Magic can still be there, but more like in a harry potter way.

Remember to smile and please support our beloved game

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Originally Posted by millktea

My rage is simply that men show less skin. AGAIN.

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Someone RPing as a twink should show more skin, not less! (ᗒᗨᗕ)

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Originally Posted by SongOfTheWind

They are right tho, male version is much more modest in showing midriff for some reason.

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I had to look twice to spot the difference, but turns out you are right. The female shirt is extremely revealing. I actually think they should have made the shirt for the female characters longer. It would look better in my humble opinion.

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Originally Posted by SongOfTheWind

They are right tho, male version is much more modest in showing midriff for some reason.

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Yeah it's a few inches off the stomach but I see it can be disappointing for fellow male players too like it's not as bad as the PCT glam but so it goes.