DT releases in TWO MONTHS - they aren't going to overhaul the graphics update now.

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Originally Posted by DynnDiablos

If you hate SE so much why not go elsewhere and spend your money with a company you so obviously despise.

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This may be a surprise to you, but the world is not black and white.

I've been playing this game longer than you and never unsubbed a single day because I love this game.
I just don't lick the boots of corporations and accept everything they do.
I complain because I want to play this game until the sun dies and I want to see my character as I always loved him while doing it.

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Originally Posted by Moqi

Then make your own thread?

This is not a dialogue between us and the devs, we are not friends or on the same level, we are just customer leaving feedback to a corporation. If you had a bad meal at a restaurant do you go "hey but what about all the other people who liked it" when you leave a review or just say you didn't like it? It's up to the owner to change the recipe or not afterwards. What's so hard to understand?

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Hi o/ Not a shill here, I like the Au Ra scales. I've also been critical about all of the gameplay decisions since ShB, and the giant plot hole that Emet Selch created in ShB that no one seems to have noticed.

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Originally Posted by Tsumdere

Find me one person who isn't a SE shill that approves of the removal of Keeper fangs, no Hellsguard nose, botched Viera lip jobs, face 3 male Viera dirt nose, badly upscaled Au Ra scales, female Elezen mouth, and Lala piranha teeth.

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Masc viera face 3 haver here and I do like the darker nose, it's one of the few things I do like about the new textures. I was always a little envious of the darker nose on face 1, but face 1 is a bit too stern for my wol.
Everything else you said is on point though, also for a game with so many fantasy skintones in the CC, the new textures and lighting have not been kind to a lot of fantasy skintone users, at least in the benchmark. That and the lip shape changes are my biggest complaints, I think.

I fail to see how changing what people don't like would take that long?
Fixing the lip changes, the Au Ra scales issue and some nose smudges here and there sounds like something that can be done by 1 person quickly.

Do you still think they're not going to do anything? :)

We should all brace for our characters being absolutely ruined by this update.

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Originally Posted by Johners

People should still leave their feedback though. The graphics overhaul is being done in stages and will be complete by/with 8.0 (which also includes things such as enabling two dyes for all pieces of gear etc). Even if something isn't ideal when 7.0 releases in a few months, it could easily be fixed in the patch cycle.


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One thing I'd like to point is that the default gamma correction is 50 (in the live game and DT benchmark) which completely washes out the colours. Set this to 0 and everything looks much better, especially with the lighting overhaul. Doesn't address everything but looking at some of the screenshots on Twitter/X, the lighting can be really poor at times because of the gamma correction setting (plus that blue background in the character creator is also just a poor reflection of real world game zones).

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Where do you find gamma correction settings in the benchmark?

Based on Yoshi P's letter, some of the issues are either 1. non issues that are already fixed in the game as it will be released (but didn't get fixed in the benchmark zones, which was a failure on their part) or 2. have already been fixed in the built that will be released in DT (but didn't get ported over to the build for the Benchmark, which was a mistake as they have now learned the hard way) or 3. ACTUALLY WERE REAL BUGS and now the QA team has more data to go through and fix before the DT release, which is good!

So to OP's point, no we're not going to stop or radically change the graphics overhaul at this point, but many of the problems noted are going to be fixed in the live game, which is good to know.

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Originally Posted by Moonsprite

Where do you find gamma correction settings in the benchmark?

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Settings (middle right in the launcher), and then it is the last item under Display Settings.

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Originally Posted by Ancalagon_Blacktalon

Settings (middle right in the launcher), and then it is the last item under Display Settings.

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Thank you :)

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Originally Posted by Evergrey

Maybe I will actually be able to login on Launch day instead of sitting in a queue for hours thanks to this. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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Even if nothing else goes wrong (and I'm not holding my breath), I'm sure there'll be another big wave of DDOS attacks, just because some people get a laugh out of being jerks.

For those that don't remember the original characters way back didn't blink and people found it off putting so it was changed, also they had the same dead eyes as in the "graphical update" and the white dot was added to give em a soul. Say what you want but i feel this "graphical update" might be more to accommodate consoles then PC's.

Consoles haven't been the problem since they dropped PS3 support back in Stormblood. Potato PCs have been holding us back since then.

PC players always want to blame consoles like they all have PCs that can match a PS5.

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Originally Posted by TheMightyMollusk

Even if nothing else goes wrong (and I'm not holding my breath), I'm sure there'll be another big wave of DDOS attacks, just because some people get a laugh out of being jerks.

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Yeah, I always expect issues on launch days, and a day or two after.
Better to be mentally prepared.
If nothing else it'll end up better than expected and that's just a positive surprise then.

Console Players or folk who want to use personal management of funds as an excuse of why they can't run Programs.

It doesn't matter what the reason is, yall should really stop with all the broadbrushing. These ain't some picket fences that are getting redone to match a theme.

SE can literally push the hardware if they wish.

Only now do they seem to finally had something for them to push.

People or Gonna be Cheap and milk every drop they can out of their situation.

It's just a topic of what SE needs to do if you want higher and higher requirements for Graphics.

And that'll likely be when a "The Second Graphical Update" will show up.

and that Probably will have SE to set a higher Benchmark before it releases.

(If it isn't in two years, whenever that comes. It'll likely require 5060's minimum)

Tldr: Let's not broad stroke, we don't know folks situations.

In things like this, you either have or don't.
Match the tide, or every single ripped in the water is a giant wave.

Considering the status of the issues and how badly all 3 regions have complained, im sure YoshiP will have to delay DT again, and cry on the LL to farm good will.

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Originally Posted by Mika_Zahard

Considering the status of the issues and how badly all 3 regions have complained, im sure YoshiP will have to delay DT again, and cry on the LL to farm good will.

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Hope not. It really depends, to me the complaints have fallen into two categories, basically being real complaints, and nitpicks.

The real complaints are things like texture seams, bad lighting, low fidelity textures, pixelation, ect. I actually found these complaints to be pretty uncommon, or having a shared issue across races of the character creator lighting sucking ass.

Then there were the people doing intense draw overs of their faces because they don't understand the concept of polygon faceting,
I really don't think its worth delaying DT for issues like these becuase they're largely subjective and ultimately don't matter much. I also wonder if its even possible to get a point where issues like those ever truly go away.

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Originally Posted by Oizen

Hope not. It really depends, to me the complaints have fallen into two categories, basically being real complaints, and nitpicks.

The real complaints are things like texture seams, bad lighting, low fidelity textures, pixelation, ect. I actually found these complaints to be pretty uncommon, or having a shared issue across races of the character creator lighting sucking ass.

Then there were the people doing intense draw overs of their faces because they don't understand the concept of polygon faceting,
I really don't think its worth delaying DT for issues like these becuase they're largely subjective and ultimately don't matter much. I also wonder if its even possible to get a point where issues like those ever truly go away.

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Someone already made a very good explanation on where the issues are: They broke all the faces below the upper mouth. This isnt just a texture problem, its a model issue!