7.0 Graphic Update - Lalafell Feedback (please give me back my smudge!!)

I'd like to bring to light how Lalafell lip shapes in the benchmark have changed & made redundant- they're all the same now

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Originally Posted by HeyMcFly

I'd like to bring to light how Lalafell lip shapes in the benchmark have changed & made redundant- they're all the same now

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This is caused by the mouth scaling issue. I believe it even affects Krile as to me her lips look off as well.

https://i.imgur.com/KlWkas7.png

Current (6.55) → Benchmark v1 → Benchmark v2

The smudge has been restored! \o/ I wish her brows were as thick/dark as they used to be, but that's such a minor detail compared to her nose, I don't mind it. Thanks, devs!

one of my alts has the smudge nose, i am happy to have it back.

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Originally Posted by jynbean

I really dislike the change to the smile :|

https://i.imgur.com/Dy5gxbY.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/eivEtZk.jpg

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Smile 1 looks like: Hello, happy to see you!
Smile 2 looks like: I just cropdusted the Balmung Quicksands with a SBD fart, mwahaha.

I know we have a rep for being evil, but still.

Being console trash I haven't seen what I look like with the graphics update yet. I'm very excited to come Friday!!

Yeah, I'm on PC but I'm mostly exicted for the graphics update.

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Originally Posted by Vuro

https://i.imgur.com/KlWkas7.png

Current (6.55) → Benchmark v1 → Benchmark v2

The smudge has been restored! \o/ I wish her brows were as thick/dark as they used to be, but that's such a minor detail compared to her nose, I don't mind it. Thanks, devs!

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Unfortunately it's still bad for face 4 :(

https://i.gyazo.com/314e1a1e0dc9b847...03d8a0bc91.gif
(the pink tone is it turning on)

So now lalas have a functioning christmas light nose?

This is the only thread I find discussing this particular issue and it's actually making me so sad. I find that the lip issue is particularly bad across all lalas, but mainly on darker skinned lalafells. You can see this change reflect during MSQ with Krile, where her top light is almost non-existent. I don't understand why this valid feedback was ignored. Maybe because the lalafell community wasn't up in an uproar like Au'ra were, who were graciously given limbal rings.

I genuinely think that this thread needs more feedback and people discussing the changes found on lalafells!

You can see below Krile's top lip is non-existent.
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachmen...8cb2148131899&

And even below, you can see how two different colored lip colors look super different on the same lalafell:
https://imgur.com/xtLWatG.png
https://imgur.com/juYnX6N.png

And worse on the angle:
https://imgur.com/mzdPaUU.png
https://imgur.com/xfEhUbf.png

Again, these are ZOOMED IN so zoomed out, it was a visceral recoil from seeing my lala ingame.

I'd also like to touch briefly on the nose as well. The new lala nose is angular, almost serpent like? I can't really find the word to describe it but lalas used to have extremely soft, round features... Now they're intense, sharp and the general vibe is off:
https://imgur.com/PjGUja5.png
https://i.imgur.com/kbfOl3A.png


I can't help but wonder if they took their time with lalafells and/or took their time with darker toned lalafells. I should briefly mention I also do not like the weird grey eyeliner they added as well. It used to be a deeper, true black than it is now. It's an overlay now that I think is NOT flattering on darker skin tones. I'm honestly more upset than I should be (lol, oh well!) but I find that the transition from the old lala look to the new COMPLETELY changed the entirety of the lalafell face! And I'm only comparing MY lala. Of course, this MIGHT be nit picking but I just think it's really too much of a difference.

The lip issue is definitely still there… and nowhere is it more apparent than my portraits and adventurer plate! I usually use the grin emote for my Lala and it doesn’t look even close to her original mouth. When I get a chance, I’ll post some side by side comparisons. Funny enough, she looks great in cutscenes, but her facial expressions are way different in portrait and gpose now.

My lalafell looks like she got stung while trying to eat a bee. :(

Dark skinned made me look so greasy now lol.
Stockholm syndrome keeps me playing like this lmao

I really thought they were going to fix the mouth issues. After the graphics update, I changed some of my job plate portraits as she almost looks doll-like. I have noticed that she has a weird shadow around her upper lips. This is very noticeable when she opens them.

I am using mouth 2 on Dunesfolk. Is anyone else noticing this issue?
https://i.imgur.com/vA9kIm7.jpeg

My lalafell's mouth is way smaller than it was before--maybe they overshot when trying to fix the teeth to mouth ratio? That in combination with the top lip being extra thin makes my sweet Plainsfolk Lala now look perpetually annoyed and out of patience with everything. :(

Here’s a side by side of my portraits… left is EW, right is DT. Only changed the gear and background. Otherwise the pose is exactly the same.

https://i.imgur.com/3cSHgMg.jpeg

Biggest issue is that the lips aren’t as full as they were. Both lips are reduced, but the upper is almost gone. The other thing you can notice is that the eyes are definitely a different shape: this isn’t an optical illusion, her eyes are looking in the same direction in both pictures, but you can barely tell in the DT picture! lol Cheeks were also made fuller, so the face paint looks stretched.

Oddly enough, all this isn’t as obvious when viewing the character in cutscenes. But when you’re making portraits or using gpose, it’s definitely noticeable. It isn’t a lighting problem, it’s different shapes! I’m glad that my character didn’t have as severe differences as others did. But if it’s some sort of scaling error for certain facial features, I would hope it would be fixed.

Female lala nose smudge isn't dark anymore, just a much lighter shade like you showed before :(

Yeahhhhh this is frustrating