Revelations from JP Fan Fest (January 2024)

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Originally Posted by YianKutku

I was approaching it from the architectural term for "arcade", meaning "lots of contiguous arches", but from what we see in that concept art there are no (meaningful) arches, so that's probably wrong as well.

I admit I'm kind of reluctant to consider that the meaning might be based on the "gaming machines" meaning of "arcade", because that's a bit too whimsical for me for the eight-man raid.

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It seems to have some connection to our cyberpunk location, so "arcade" in the gaming sense might be exactly what it is, specially since it seems to be made of GPUs. Good news! Looks like we're getting blitzball after all (but with death).

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Originally Posted by Lady_Silvermoon

Yes. Please let me have this one little spark of joy after so much misery. Plus, don't the Mamool Ja pick their leaders through combat? Is it even a political intrigue plot if all we have to do is win a fight?

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No, the Mamool Ja don't pick leaders through combat, they pick leaders through head count. As in, 'that guy's got two of them, let's follow him'. They seem to consider martial strength important on a societal level beyond that, but it's not victory-by-combat like, say, the xaela of the Steppe. Anything further is speculation (this is all from, like, ARR stuff and a single EE1 page), but I'd wager that it might actually be them equating military leadership to political leadership; that if someone can control their troops well, then that means they can control their people well. Not completely unlike the Klingons from Star Trek, if you want a comparison. That actually opens A LOT of room for political intrigue and clever aces up the sleeve.

It's also notable that one of the few parts of the story we have is that the person beseeching us for help isn't a Mamool Ja; she's a hrothgal. That actually puts her outside of what little heirarchy we've got going on, but also shows that she's got her own legitimacy, because she's most likely a queen, or at least vying to be. So she's gotta get at least a little bit clever to earn respect from the mamool Ja, who literally base their leadership decisions on the belief that two heads are better than one.

In fact, I'd also point out one of the other figures on the poster: That unknown miqo'te on the right. If he's a suncat (with that skin tone it could go either way) he's possibly also got a societal claim to authority, as a Nunh. And if I were to guess anything about him, I'd wager he might be the equivalent power player from Solution Nine; he's the one newcomer on the poster with a noticeably 'non-primitive' outfit.

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Originally Posted by Teah_Kaye

I kind of hope the Miqo from the poster art is a mooncat. Feels like we haven't had much mooncat representation in the MSQ at all.

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Strike 'much': We haven't had MSQ mooncat representation. Even in major sidequests, all we've had are Khloe and Zhloe, Nashu, and that one guy from the Black Mage questline. They're the least represented at-launch subrace, and I could make a case for them being behind all the post-launch subraces except the Veena. Suncat just occurred to me because their society is patriarchal, so you'd have a contention between three leaders with internally legitimate claims to leadership of their own people, vying for leadership of the society as a whole: a two-headed Mamool Ja, a hrothgar queen, and a Nunh of the Seekers.

Although, if my theory of an overall clash of 'tradition versus modernity' is right, and my theory that he's from Solution Nine is also right, him being a mooncat would actually carry some interesting extra weight: his society's culture says that he should be secondary to a matriarchal figure, but why should that matter less than the fact he can actually lead?

We also haven't had duskwights. There's one in the Werlyt story but none in the MSQ

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Originally Posted by Yuella

We also haven't had duskwights. There's one in the Werlyt story but none in the MSQ

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Eh, there's some 'technically' picks in that. The Werlyt NPC did first appear in non-speaking spots in the MSQ, they did make a deliberate design decision that most of the elves in Norvrandt are Duskwight, and at least internally Miounne, Ysayle and Count Fortemps are Duskwight. (Although Fortemps is even weirder, he's also got an au ra face.) And that's not to mention they have sidequest NPCs who are pointedly about being Duskwight, which the mooncats don't have.

Most of that I'd argue don't really count for Duskwight representation, but it's still more than the mooncats get; even all the major miqo'te on the First are suncats.

What a interesting fanfest.

I really liked Pictomancer and I look forward to trying it. I understand that the attack effects are not for everyone but thankfully you should be able to turn those effects down. (Unlike those of us who dont like certain glamours) A bit sad that beast master turned into another limited job. Hopefully it still is a bit fun. (Did not enjoy Blue Mage much)

Not sure if I am going to change into a female Hrothgar. Have to see the benchmark first. Their heads feel a bit small but maybe its just the hairstyle. Other than that I like their body type.

I dont know what to feel about the cosmic exploration. I did not like that we are somehow able to travel through space in Endwalker and now it seems that we are even visiting other planets...maybe this is just Dynamis acting up on Ultima Thule? Will see how it turns out.

In the end the next expansion seems to have a big amount of content. All the standard stuff but also new Hildibrand, new variant dungeons, new deep dungeon, a new "island" and even a Bozja/Eureka like zone. I laughed a bit when Yoshida said that times have changed. Because its so true. I remember the forums being on fire because people really disliked Eureka (especially Pagos) and suddenly its really missed.

The story also seems interesting. Especially that player hub.

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Originally Posted by Cleretic

In fact, I'd also point out one of the other figures on the poster: That unknown miqo'te on the right. If he's a suncat (with that skin tone it could go either way) he's possibly also got a societal claim to authority, as a Nunh. And if I were to guess anything about him, I'd wager he might be the equivalent power player from Solution Nine; he's the one newcomer on the poster with a noticeably 'non-primitive' outfit.

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My personal guess is that he's from Shaaloani since he's wearing a fantasy version of an old western duster complete with a cravat which feels rather archaic for a cyberpunk city and would fit in more with the wild west theme. The multiple suspender-wearing Miqo'te from the trailer have been speculated as being from Xak Tural as well.

Most Miqo'te do not seem to follow the traditional culture anyway. The U and M tribes living out in the wild seems to be the exception to the rule and the number of Miqo'te living in Ul'dah are so small that they're filed under "others". Most Eorzean Sun Seekers are from Limsa Lominsa and we've also had multiple examples of Miqo'te living in nuclear families with a mom, a dad, and children together. The only city-dwelling Miqo'te we've met who have 2 moms and one dad are Y'shtola and Y'mhitra. If there's a society of Miqo'te on the other side of the world, then their culture has been out of contact with that of Eorzean culture for thousands upon thousands of years so any notion of tradition can be thrown out the window and we won't know what their views are.

We'll probably know more about the fight for the throne in 8 days when the next story patch drops so I'm not too keen on speculating on that. But we do know there are multiple two-headed Mamool Ja out there leading their own warbands who vie for the leadership of Tural because we've already fought one of them. They must've been hell for the Mealvaan's Gate census takers if they went through customs.

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Originally Posted by Yuella

We also haven't had duskwights. There's one in the Werlyt story but none in the MSQ

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Depends on what you count as representation because like Cleretic said, other Elezen have used Duskwight models but are not Duskwight Elezen. Duskwight Elezen as an actual clan only come from the Twelveswood since their whole beginnings and the reason they are different from other Elezen came about due to Gelmorra. I would not expect Duskwight to be in Tural since the New World has only been known to Eorzea for 80 years and semi-regularly contacted for the past 20. If there were Elezen in the New World and they used the Duskwight model, I would not count that as actual Duskwight representation unless they are Eorzean or there's been some crazy retcons.

That all said I think we're past due for more Gridania lore because Limsa Lominsa, Ul'dah, and Ishgard seem to hog all the glory and Gridania is always left behind. Palace of the Dead dealt with Gelmorra but we barely got a lick of Gelmorran/Duskwight lore through it.

(Repost to right thread) Got to be honest here, as much as the story speculation is hyperfocused on Solution Nine's mystery, to no one's surprise, the part that I'm most curious about now that my speculation thoughts are whirling, is the Succession Contest and the contestants, now that we have a vague guess whom may be involved.

Because a story needs character drama and interpersonal relationships, and now we know that one of the people involved is the Hrothgar daughter of the two-headed Mamool king. About to bond with Krile over adoption stories? Which is fascinating. We have no idea what her relationship is to her father and vice versa or to the other claimants- is she the underdog or not?

A safe assumption is that another main claimant is the feather-bedecked Mamoojal under Thancred and Urianger. My curiosity is to know if they are royal siblings and why they are competing against each other.

Or if there's more than two factions in this contest- maybe there's three and one is from North Tural? With all the jokes about this having references to FF X, what if this is instead a FF X-2 reference with three factions that map onto three former friends and three paths to (re)focus culturally/politically?

I know everyone is joking that the contest will be irrelevant by level 93, but it feels like what it really represents will remain the unifying thread.

I'm very curious about the Scions they decided to highlight on the key art. The most shocking to me is Urianger, whose story feels quite finished after Endwalker. Surprised he is there over the twins (who were mentioned to be the ones traveling with WoL alongside Erenville at the start of the game), Y'shtola and G'raha.

Yoshi-P said that Krile and Thancred are going to get more focus, so not surprised they are included. My suspicion is that Thancred will be the main force on the '' opposing '' team in the scions, because his appearance in 6.4 was somewhat... ominous? Or rather, that he is ready to leave the nest of Scions of the Seventh Dawn as they have no urgent need of him with WoL in the reigns. Thancred's character arc has also come to it's conclusion for the most part, so I could see this expansion as Thancred's last big role in the game, much like Lyse's was in Stormblood. Though, with focus on Thancred, it also just further makes me question what Urianger's role will be, as they have been steadfast companions since Shadowbringers. If Thancred takes an opposing position, will Urianger follow? Of course, it could actually be that we are on Thancred's side and all this speculation is for naught lmao.

I hope we eventually leave the twins behind. 6.x patches showcased how unnecessary they are at this point, and I find their dialogue to be really boring. They make too many heroic speeches as well and I don't want to hear them anymore. Y'shtola has also not risen to the main girl challenge despite the focus on her in 6.x, so I'm not particularly hoping to see more of her. Estinien will work as a side character, and I think it's fitting he is taking this mentor-like position for the Mamool Ja soldiers/hunters we saw in the trailer, creating a connection with the locals (that'll come in handy down the road) while the others deal with the big shots and the politics. G'raha's position remains a mystery, I'd like to see more of him and I'd like to have that adventure with him, but his part in the trailer, him not showing up in the key art and not even being alluded to in any of the text we've seen makes me a bit worried. G'raha had so little to do in Endwalker overall that I wish he could've gotten more development in Dawntrail, though that remains to be seen. Though honestly, I feel like Erenville is on our team partly because G'raha's role will be lesser, and we need a hot pretty boy in the group during his absence lmao.

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Originally Posted by Cleretic

It's also notable that one of the few parts of the story we have is that the person beseeching us for help isn't a Mamool Ja; she's a hrothgal. That actually puts her outside of what little heirarchy we've got going on, but also shows that she's got her own legitimacy, because she's most likely a queen, or at least vying to be. So she's gotta get at least a little bit clever to earn respect from the mamool Ja, who literally base their leadership decisions on the belief that two heads are better than one.

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I'm actually wondering if the heretofore-unheard-of divergent Turali Hrothgar culture (Xbr'aal) puts her legitimacy as a ruler at a disadvantage, hence why she's seeking outside assistance. I feel like it would be a waste to just carbon copy Ilsabardian Hrothgar social structure wholesale to the other side of the world, especially when we've already tread that ground in Bozja, so I could see a scenario where they're completely different, be it egalitarian, patriarchal, or perhaps even all-female.

According to a post from her EN VA, our new character's name spelled Wuk Lamat.

Sorry if I'm late in just now noticing this but Urqopacha is a region we'll be visiting in Dawntrail, which is in Yok Tural. I am also certain that is a reference to Incan mythology. Specifically, the ukhu pacha.

I've researched Incan beliefs, but here's an excerpt from Wikipedia:

The pacha (often translated as world) was an Incan concept for dividing the different spheres of the cosmos in Incan mythology. There were three different levels of pacha: the hana pacha (Quechua, meaning "world above"), ukhu pacha ("world below"), and kay pacha ("this world"). The realms are not solely spatial, but were simultaneously spatial and temporal. Although the universe was considered a unified system within Incan cosmology, the division between the worlds was part of the dualism prominent in Incan beliefs. This dualism found that everything which existed had dual features (both hot and cold, positive and negative, dark and light, etc.).

Someone mentioned earlier in this thread that a previous FF game featured different worlds colliding or blending together and that could be what's happening in Dawntrail.

Welp, if they are following Incan mythology, there ya go!

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Originally Posted by Denishia

According to a post from her EN VA, our new character's name spelled Wuk Lamat.

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Her voice actor is also trans and Puerto Rican, which doesn't matter for the lore, but does matter to me. That choice of acting pool is a really strong choice for Dawntrail, too.

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Originally Posted by Cleretic

Her voice actor is also trans and Puerto Rican, which doesn't matter for the lore, but does matter to me. That choice of acting pool is a really strong choice for Dawntrail, too.

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Yep! Both facts make me happy as well, and from her trailer line and the hints that they've dropped about her personality she sounds fun. And a XIV player would started back in 1.0. I'm strongly hoping that most of the new VAs for Dawntrail are various LatAm - even if it does highlight how sadly impossible a Spanish Dub for XIV would be at this late stage.

This also hints that the other VAs for Tural characters will be from outside the Europe. Which, to my personal delight, also means the strong likelihood of the new villain, whomever they are, facing off against our heroes with mostly British accents will have a distinctly American one. Which, I’ve talked about how much I love that particular trope inversion with the Seanchan.

I wonder if Wuk Lamat’s JP VA or another new Tural NPC is Nikkei Brazilian?

Imagine if Nutkin plays a important role in this expansion storyline.

It has been a while since we last saw this little guy and he seem to be more fond of Thancred now.

Considering Nutkin's reactions during his moment in the trailer, it almost seems like Nutkin been searching for Thancred for a while and is just happy to finally find him again.

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Originally Posted by EdwinLi

Imagine if Nutkin plays a important role in this expansion storyline.

It has been a while since we last saw this little guy and he seem to be more fond of Thancred now.

Considering Nutkin's reactions during his moment in the trailer, it almost seems like Nutkin been searching for Thancred for a while and is just happy to finally find him again.

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the nutkin ALWAYS plays an important role in ANY main story Scenario... including saving Thancred's dignity as of post 3.0

It is an Honorary Scion at this point in time.

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Originally Posted by EdwinLi

Imagine if Nutkin plays a important role in this expansion storyline.

It has been a while since we last saw this little guy and he seem to be more fond of Thancred now.

Considering Nutkin's reactions during his moment in the trailer, it almost seems like Nutkin been searching for Thancred for a while and is just happy to finally find him again.

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Can you or anyone else give me a more detailed reminder on the nutkin? Because I don't remember it in the slightest.

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Originally Posted by Kranel_San

Can you or anyone else give me a more detailed reminder on the nutkin? Because I don't remember it in the slightest.

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It’s the squirrel that has been with Thancred to protect his bits from the camera from the time he teleported to the wilderness naked between ARR and HW. He’s been “hiding” around Thancred throughout MSQ ever since. He even shows up in ShB several times. He also shows up in Eorzea Encyclopedia as Thancred’s “boon companion”.

And if you were here or other FFXIV talking spaces after EU fanfest’s extended trailer, he was “proof” we were getting druid class as the missing caster since the camera lingered on him a bit longer than it should have and that meant it was a person about to transform.

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Originally Posted by MikkoAkure

It’s the squirrel that has been with Thancred to protect his bits from the camera from the time he teleported to the wilderness naked between ARR and HW. He’s been “hiding” around Thancred throughout MSQ ever since. He even shows up in ShB several times. He also shows up in Eorzea Encyclopedia as Thancred’s “boon companion”.

And if you were here or other FFXIV talking spaces after EU fanfest’s extended trailer, he was “proof” we were getting druid class as the missing caster since the camera lingered on him a bit longer than it should have and that meant it was a person about to transform.

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Yep, Nutkin been Thancred side companion that often appears in a "Where's Waldo" situation which has prompt certain players to keep a eye out for Nutkin whenever Thancred is appearing.

Honestly, if Nutkin does end up being a actual person transformed as a Nutkin I will probably have to pause the game and laugh at the situation since Thancred most likely never realized Nutkin is maybe a person in disguise.

Would be more funny if Nutkin turns out to be this new girl on the top for the Dawntrail poster....

https://i.redd.it/ekh3unbvuxac1.jpeg

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Originally Posted by Enkidoh

Which SE debunked long ago that none of the Shards are other literal FF worlds, but merely reflections of the Source with just places that reference other FF game places but again are not those literal locations.

Midgar existing in a Shard though is a new one - I've never heard anything mentioned about that whatsoever - seems more like someone took Emet's comment about the other Shards' civilizations "surprising you" in EW literally to mean 'Midgar is on a Shard' (personally I think we already got our Midgar equivelant in the form of Garlemald really - I mean, the Sector 6 playground/park is in there for thing), so... citation needed?

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Yoshida-san mentioned Midgar being on a Shard a good while ago in an interview. It was even talked about on the forums, too.

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Originally Posted by Naraku_Diabolos

Yoshida-san mentioned Midgar being on a Shard a good while ago in an interview. It was even talked about on the forums, too.

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By a good while ago you mean 4 years?

I can't find any actual transcriptions of the interview, just of a couple of articles saying that Yoshi P told the website in a private interview that information. Between that, and the possibility of a mistranslation, it's hard to tell if it's genuine.

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“It’s not just limited to different shards, but the place all of it came from was outside space, so it will be also very interesting to explore that area, not just the different shards.”

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Was also something he supposedly stated in regards to it.

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Originally Posted by EdwinLi

Yep, Nutkin been Thancred side companion that often appears in a "Where's Waldo" situation which has prompt certain players to keep a eye out for Nutkin whenever Thancred is appearing.

Honestly, if Nutkin does end up being a actual person transformed as a Nutkin I will probably have to pause the game and laugh at the situation since Thancred most likely never realized Nutkin is maybe a person in disguise.

Would be more funny if Nutkin turns out to be this new girl on the top for the Dawntrail poster....

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Okay, everyone else go home, OP just had the funniest galaxy-brain take; I sit in awe and enlightenment.

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Originally Posted by Naraku_Diabolos

Yoshida-san mentioned Midgar being on a Shard a good while ago in an interview. It was even talked about on the forums, too.

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I'm still waiting for a source from the last time you said this.

The forums say a lot of things, you can't take that as evidence!

So, unfounded speculation time:

The Arcadion will be simulated (VR? Dimensional pockets?) battles ran through that giant GPU-looking tower. I say this for no reason other than it looks like a computer part.

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Originally Posted by Zero-ELEC

So, unfounded speculation time:

The Arcadion will be simulated (VR? Dimensional pockets?) battles ran through that giant GPU-looking tower. I say this for no reason other than it looks like a computer part.

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I agree. I have a feeling it's gonna be similar to the Omega raids. Maybe virtual battle is something they do for fun.

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Originally Posted by Zero-ELEC

So, unfounded speculation time:

The Arcadion will be simulated (VR? Dimensional pockets?) battles ran through that giant GPU-looking tower. I say this for no reason other than it looks like a computer part.

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That sounds awesome but what would the stakes be? Are we just battling to try to get a reward or something? I feel like every raid has some pretty high stakes, so there'd have to be a twist to that. What could it be...

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Originally Posted by Cassar

That sounds awesome but what would the stakes be? Are we just battling to try to get a reward or something? I feel like every raid has some pretty high stakes, so there'd have to be a twist to that. What could it be...

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If we win, we get to be their ruler and direct them to fight a war for us...oh wait, did that one already.

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Originally Posted by Lady_Silvermoon

I agree. I have a feeling it's gonna be similar to the Omega raids. Maybe virtual battle is something they do for fun.

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It will be a bit interesting if this raid is just a Tournament they are holding between their civilizations best fighters in a virtual arena.

We always have Raids about preventing a side world ending threat but with the theme more now about the WoL going back to his/her roots as a Adventurer, a Tournament Arc theme raid without the threat of the world ending if WoL does not get involved will probably be a nice little relaxing experience for WoL.

Curious about these fellas and the images that kind of look like screenshots under them. The small images don't have a clear unified aesthetic to just be random irrelevant pictures.

https://i.imgur.com/Nz2jDha.jpg

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Originally Posted by Cassar

That sounds awesome but what would the stakes be? Are we just battling to try to get a reward or something? I feel like every raid has some pretty high stakes, so there'd have to be a twist to that. What could it be...

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Mayhaps we'd be fighting constructed computer viruses or other digital threats that pose a danger to S9 as a whole. I could see something like that, personally.

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Originally Posted by EdwinLi

It will be a bit interesting if this raid is just a Tournament they are holding between their civilizations best fighters in a virtual arena.

We always have Raids about preventing a side world ending threat but with the theme more now about the WoL going back to his/her roots as a Adventurer, a Tournament Arc theme raid without the threat of the world ending if WoL does not get involved will probably be a nice little relaxing experience for WoL.

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I'd not mind Omega raids again, with or without the world ending threat.

My angle on how to make 'what if Arcadeon is all virtual' have weight: They're computer viruses/malicious software made manifest, and we go in as heavy-duty antivirus.

I wonder if Solution 9 could end up being comparable in purpose to the moon/Bestways Burrow once we get all the story beats. I get this weird feeling it'll be seen as some sort of paradise-adjacent refuge for it's inhabitants, be they physical or digital/ethereal.

On another note, do we know if chocobos are native to the New World? The signage in the concept art and screenshots/videos are getting me curious of something.

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Originally Posted by Mayhemmer

I wonder if Solution 9 could end up being comparable in purpose to the moon/Bestways Burrow once we get all the story beats. I get this weird feeling it'll be seen as some sort of paradise-adjacent refuge for it's inhabitants, be they physical or digital/ethereal.

On another note, do we know if chocobos are native to the New World? The signage in the concept art and screenshots/videos are getting me curious of something.

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Oh, are you thinking that porters/etc. will use another type of mount as main form of transportation, like the amaro in Novrandt and the falcons in AldenardOthard? Would be cool. And no, we do not have any indication about chocobos in Tural.

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Originally Posted by Zero-ELEC

Oh, are you thinking that porters/etc. will use another type of mount as main form of transportation, like the amaro in Novrandt and the falcons in Aldenard? Would be cool. And no, we do not have any indication about chocobos in Tural.

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It'd be neat to see if a different transport is used for the porters, but I was more curious about this singular little bit in the concept art for S9 that made me wonder if chocobos are native to the Turals.https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachmen...6fb054abe2022&

Really, it could just be non-important concept fluff, and my brain is just tugging at every little detail it attaches itself to, but the presence of what clearly looks like advertisements makes me curious.

Where the in-game footage we've seen of Tuliyollal (and most other areas we've seen) and Solution 9 visually differ is that the former look like lived-in places. There's all sorts of things scattered about, there's crates and pots, even bottles and food, everywhere. It looks very natural, fitting with the theme of the areas. But S9 looks barren by comparison, like the hyper-efficient cybercity it looks to be. It doesn't look like a place where people live, but rather a place they would live.

I don't know if that makes any sense outside of my head, but outside of this singular piece of concept art we have (which has tables and chairs and bottles and venues and whatnot), there isn't much evidence of living things there that we've seen, and that makes me wonder about the very specific signage.

Was looking at the trailer again, and I got to Estinien's part again and... unlike most of the other Scions, his section seems mostly unrelated to the rest? Urianger and Thancred are obviously on the expedition together, Alisaie explicitly came with the WoL and Alphinaud, Shtola interacts with our eternal friend the nutkin, Raha and Krile are hanging out in the same area.... but Estinien is just off, doing gods know what alone.

So, unfounded speculation time: Shtola/Urianger/Thancred were hired by a 3rd party, while the WoL/Alisaie/Alphinaud/Krile/Raha came at the behest of Wuk Lamat, and Estinien just got here in his wanderings, somehow. Completely unrelated to everything. We'll just find him hanging out with the local hunters.

Krile was invited by that letter to Galuf which may or may not be related to Wuk Lamat

If the main premise is the succession of Tural, then a single expansion is a relatively short span of time to learn about the candidates and see how it resolves, on top of the northward exploration that we have ahead of us.

My guess is that two different teams were independently brought over by opposing factions, with one group journeying north and the other south. We still haven't seen any sign of these fabled cities of gold that Emet mentioned, despite seeing artwork for a relatively packed zone list.

On the subject of gold, it's worth noting that (Au) 'aurum' draws its origin from the Roman goddess of the dawn, so a city of gold is bound to be of some importance to this story eventually. Perhaps the rite of succession is to find it first?

I personally do not want Krile to be our partner for this competition team they have going for this next expansion. Give me any other Scion but that one.