Green-Eye Jealousy over FFXIV

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Originally Posted by Nizzi

lmfao /10char

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this guy would make for a great diversity hire in a raiding static

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Originally Posted by HikariKurosawa

If you are participating with a static that has parses for an entire expansion's raid that you're willingly participating in, the whole group should be banned for cheating. It'd be like being on a competitive fps team where 1 person is hacking. That person is making the entire team's efforts invalid. If you're knowingly participating on the same static team as a cheater, that makes you a cheater. Be different if they weren't totally aware of the logs, but they are aware that they are participating in a static with a cheater.

Me having the bad luck of queueing into a random group of strangers through duty finder(not party finder even) where someone chooses to log the raid, yeah that's me who is being griefed.

I bet you're pretty stoked about elon musk developing neurolink.

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Damage meters don't give anyone an advantage.
All the stats in it are already in the game via the battle log. The difference is, if you wanna calculate your damage via the battle log, it will take you like an hour per fight for doing the math. The game should have a better tool in game to help those who want to improve but SE doesn't want to since some people will use it to be toxic towards those who suck. That's the only reason it's not in the game to begin with. Not because its cheating.

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Originally Posted by Thurmnmurmn

Damage meters don't give anyone an advantage.
All the stats in it are already in the game via the battle log. The difference is, if you wanna calculate your damage via the battle log, it will take you like an hour per fight for doing the math. The game should have a better tool in game to help those who want to improve but SE doesn't want to since some people will use it to be toxic towards those who suck. That's the only reason it's not in the game to begin with. Not because its cheating.

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Why would you want to calculate the damage? Oh yeah to figure out the damage requirements to pass the fight.

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Originally Posted by HikariKurosawa

Why would you want to calculate the damage? Oh yeah to figure out the damage requirements to pass the fight.

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oh no people being productive in the game ?

no way

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Originally Posted by HikariKurosawa

Why would you want to calculate the damage? Oh yeah to figure out the damage requirements to pass the fight.

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Self improvement. Crazy concept I know.

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Originally Posted by HikariKurosawa

Having dialogue about the state of cheating and allowing people to expose themselves on the official forums as users of third party software is definitely going to improve the game.

I've cancelled my sub and I am in the having a conversation with a moderator about the state of the game through the support desk. I'm saying my piece and then moving on until things change.

You're the one who called everyone bad though don't put that on me.

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Can only imagine the mental trauma the moderator has to put up with.

That said, support desk people are cool, but sometimes I feel support desk issues are like a loop. Because they relay you to game masters, but game masters can't resolve the issues so they redirect you to support desk. Loop.

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Originally Posted by Thurmnmurmn

Self improvement. Crazy concept I know.

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So for a performance advantage that you can't get in game without going to extremes that nobody realistically would ever go to, or has ever gone to. Got it.

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Originally Posted by CuriousPerson

Can only imagine the mental trauma the moderator has to put up with.

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If your idea of trauma is someone asking for clarification on the state of cheating in this game and what square enix is planning to do about it... You should probably stop using the word trauma.

Truth is they don't care at all and just give a non-answer. I am waiting for a followup that will never happen. This is what they said "for now"(and ever most likely)

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Hello and thank you for your GM call.

We have received your inquiry about our Terms of Service. You may read more about our policies for players who are found guilty of violating our Rules and Policies at this web address:

https://support.na.square-enix.com/r...1&tag=users_en

We are constantly striving to improve the game and our services to our customers, and are open to any feedback you might have. To submit feedback, please visit the forums at https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv and make a post with any suggestions you may have for our teams. Although individual responses are not sent, please rest assured that all comments are submitted to the appropriate parties so that they can be read and considered for future updates.

We appreciate you contacting us about this matter. Should you have any further concerns, please do not hesitate to contact us and we will be glad to assist.

Thank you for your patience, and best wishes to you.
FINAL FANTASY XIV Game Master Team

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This game is dead for anyone who cares about fair play and likely always will be. Sucks but cheaters "win". It's the only way square enix can "compete" with the number 1 mmo on the market WoW. If they let anyone play their game, they will at least look like they are number 2.

My "traumatic" response:

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I made a post on the forums, a mod posted in it, but what are you going to do about it? This game is unplayable currently if you're against cheating. If you read the responses, people are openly defending the state of the game and claiming that square enix will never do anything about cheating and that nobody cares. There is footage of a streamer cheating with zoom hacks live and calling it "ultrawide" while outputting 1080p 16:9 gameplay.

I would just like to know that steps are being made because currently what is being said is "square enix is fine with cheaters in their game, it's a don't ask don't tell policy. as long as you're not telling others what you're doing it's okay."

Is the game's success really dependent on enabling cheaters? If so I'll stay unsubscribed forever because I can't stand playing in a game that does nothing about unfair play.

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Originally Posted by HikariKurosawa

I made a post on the forums, a mod posted in it, but what are you going to do about it? This game is unplayable currently if you're against cheating. If you read the responses, people are openly defending the state of the game and claiming that square enix will never do anything about cheating and that nobody cares. There is footage of a streamer cheating with zoom hacks live and calling it "ultrawide" while outputting 1080p 16:9 gameplay.

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I mean SE can't do anything with your vague posting about a streamer at least give them a hint

like he's bald and he has a cute chat.

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Originally Posted by Ivtrix

this guy would make for a great diversity hire in a raiding static

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That static wouldn't last very long. Even ignoring the fact that you'd get sandbagged into oblivion, imagine having to listen to the unhinged rambling about mods and probably get accused of cheating every raid night for 3+ hours straight.

*Looks inside thread*

*Vomits*

*Cleans self up*

*Goes to bed*

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Originally Posted by HikariKurosawa

So for a performance advantage that you can't get in game without going to extremes that nobody realistically would ever go to, or has ever gone to. Got it.



If your idea of trauma is someone asking for clarification on the state of cheating in this game and what square enix is planning to do about it... You should probably stop using the word trauma.

Truth is they don't care at all and just give a non-answer. I am waiting for a followup that will never happen. This is what they said "for now"(and ever most likely)



This game is dead for anyone who cares about fair play and likely always will be. Sucks but cheaters "win". It's the only way square enix can "compete" with the number 1 mmo on the market WoW. If they let anyone play their game, they will at least look like they are number 2.

My "traumatic" response:

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A headache from listening to you constantly ramble lol

"Talky talky" -Owen Wilson

This is probably a bait thread but I'm bored, so I'll bite. Most of the criticism has nothing to do with jealousy or envy, to the point that I question of OP knows what those words mean. The criticism I see is largely pretty valid complaints from players who care about the game and want it to be better. People see what FFXIV could be if Squeenix tried a little harder.

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Originally Posted by PercibelTheren

This is probably a bait thread but I'm bored, so I'll bite. Most of the criticism has nothing to do with jealousy or envy, to the point that I question of OP knows what those words mean. The criticism I see is largely pretty valid complaints from players who care about the game and want it to be better. People see what FFXIV could be if Squeenix tried a little harder.

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also bored, and you're 100% correct about the bait thread

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Originally Posted by CuriousPerson

also bored, and you're 100% correct about the bait thread

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End of expansion waiting room always brings out the most amusing stuff cause let’s be real we all bored right now.

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Originally Posted by HikariKurosawa

So for a performance advantage that you can't get in game without going to extremes that nobody realistically would ever go to, or has ever gone to. Got it.

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People would do it if ACT didnt exist. Someone would make an excel sheet for it and post it for the community to use.

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Originally Posted by Saraide

People would do it if ACT didnt exist. Someone would make an excel sheet for it and post it for the community to use.

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They seem to be angry that they get logged without knowing that you can actually opt out of it in FFLogs, I think? Since parsing doesn't give you any actual advantage, I mean.

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Originally Posted by Volgia

They seem to be angry that they get logged without knowing that you can actually opt out of it in FFLogs, I think? Since parsing doesn't give you any actual advantage, I mean.

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People have long complained that the system is opt out and not opt in. Have to make an account and opt out which to these people is the same as spending 30 in a supermax

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Originally Posted by Ivtrix

People have long complained that the system is opt out and not opt in. Have to make an account and opt out which to these people is the same as spending 30 in a supermax

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IMO everyone who hides their logs is already taking logs far too seriously.

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Originally Posted by Saraide

IMO everyone who hides their logs is already taking logs far too seriously.

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eh its their choice so whatever, ive never run into an issue with someone with hidden logs ingame

only the sweaties trying for rank 1

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Originally Posted by TempusFinis

All these negative threads about FFXIV about not getting awards, slow content rollout, and etc are just nonsense. The development team went through Covid-19 and an serious personal illness and still won awards & put out award-winning content for TWO games! Yoshi-P and his development team have already proven themselves. FFXIV is in the Guinness Books of World Records, won many awards (including in 2023), and still developing world-class games.

https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/winning/

I read these threads from completely jealous people that are just nit-picking at anything about FFXIV. Get over it. FFXIV is the #1 MMO and maybe for all-time. WOW will never be FFXIV nor any other game (period).

FFXIV won awards in 2023,

DICE Awards (Online Game of the Year)
Famitsu / Dengeki (FAMITSU DENGEKI GAME AWARDS 2022: Best Online Game)
BAFTA (Evolving Game)

Just for the record and just my personal opinion, these same jealous people are the same ones making illegal/forbidden mods, trying to deface the FFXIV universe, and create unfounded rumors.

Yoshi-P and his development team have patience like a Saint, especially after the TOP Ultimate fiasco and unfounded complaints/jealousy.

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i mean look. youre free to cover your ears, silance the criticism and pretend everything is fine, but attacking people who dont agree isnt intelignt, this criticism is intended to improve the game, because were the vets.. not the sprouts.. but we feel pushed out by the devs infavour of MORE and mORE new players.. that isnt right.. and we want to make the game better. i advise you to simply spend youre time doing productive things like posting about what you DO like, rather than attacking those with valid criticism.

also.. where are you getting jealousy from? ???

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Originally Posted by HikariKurosawa

Exactly, which is why I unsubscribed from this joke of a game. Not interested in an invalidated experience. Would you play an fps if everyone was using wallhacks and aimbots?

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pretty sure you need an active sub to post here >_>

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Originally Posted by HikariKurosawa

Exactly, which is why I unsubscribed from this joke of a game. Not interested in an invalidated experience. Would you play an fps if everyone was using wallhacks and aimbots?

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Looking forward to your series of mental breakdown posts whenever you spot any forms of cheats on any online environment.

You'll never see the end of them I assure you