Relic Weapons for you? Curiosity

Throwing my money at SE right now so I can play more time sinks that will barely make a difference realistically! weee~

Indeed, Relic weapons for me. The Gae Bolg... and when we're finally able to upgrade them?

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Originally Posted by Zumi

I will probably wait until 2.0 when content finder is out. Nobody to do hamlets or AV/CC with. Its really hard to get a group to do any of this stuff.

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There's always going to be other like-minded people on your server. What we did on Masamune was form a Hamlet ls, we do nothing but hamlet parties in it 24/7, usually have at least 1 party going at all times, sometimes 2. Start up a ls like this and spread the word, watch how fast people pile on...

Would be working on it now if it wasn't maintenance. Its really not as bad as people think, unless you have no gil and have to pay for those weapons to break cause you dont craft or gather.

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Originally Posted by Ramesses

Indeed, Relic weapons for me. The Gae Bolg... and when we're finally able to upgrade them?

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what this guy said. luck is playing a part in this hunt, but its not 100% luck. and besides. if they were any easier, why would they be relic? deal with the shit, this isnt supposed to be easy, and i hope the devs leave it. just know that they are always better than us and always will be, because we are in THEIR world. now lets appreciate it and drool over weapons maybe 1 out of 10,000 will have

its more fun that way to have that hero in the game you can talk about later

if not, there are always single player games that require far less *luck* but don't they involve luck too? hmmmm

oh well, i will never see a relic until my beard turns grey, but its nice to know that its something to work toward, some year, some decade.

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Originally Posted by Relic

There's always going to be other like-minded people on your server. What we did on Masamune was form a Hamlet ls, we do nothing but hamlet parties in it 24/7, usually have at least 1 party going at all times, sometimes 2. Start up a ls like this and spread the word, watch how fast people pile on...

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It's very rare on my server to see a hamlet shout, or AV/CC shouts for the next parts. They happen but not very often. I am not too keen on waiting around doing nothing watching shouts. I like to start getting a relic now sure, but I just don't see that happening. I'll wait for 2.0 improvements and content finder which should make it much easier cause I can get a group any time of day when I want to play.

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Originally Posted by Veltaine

what this guy said. luck is playing a part in this hunt, but its not 100% luck. and besides. if they were any easier, why would they be relic? deal with the shit, this isnt supposed to be easy, and i hope the devs leave it. just know that they are always better than us and always will be, because we are in THEIR world. now lets appreciate it and drool over weapons maybe 1 out of 10,000 will have

its more fun that way to have that hero in the game you can talk about later

if not, there are always single player games that require far less *luck* but don't they involve luck too? hmmmm

oh well, i will never see a relic until my beard turns grey, but its nice to know that its something to work toward, some year, some decade.

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When I get my Relic.. I'll appreciate it more after all the hard work I put into it. that's what it truly means to feel Accomplished and feel good about yourself!

It's an eventual goal I intend to go about at a natural/casual pace, but not something I'd make myself suffer grinding to try to get and then throw a fit over because I don't have it ASAP or effortlessly. The relic weapons aren't supposed to be something everything has, nor meant to be obtained easily/quickly. The RNG isn't so bad if you space the content out, and do the content because you enjoy it, instead of some chore you're binging on and wouldn't do unless it was for relic.

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Originally Posted by Zumi

It's very rare on my server to see a hamlet shout, or AV/CC shouts for the next parts. They happen but not very often. I am not too keen on waiting around doing nothing watching shouts. I like to start getting a relic now sure, but I just don't see that happening. I'll wait for 2.0 improvements and content finder which should make it much easier cause I can get a group any time of day when I want to play.

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You know nobody will shout if everyone have the same mind as you and just wait for shouts? and they will all whine about the same thing that nobody is doing stuff? step up if you want to do stuff.

Reason why established LS get stuff accomplished is because they have people that willing to step up and lead the run, LS falls apart when people doesn't step up and wait for people to hold their hand.

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Originally Posted by Chardrizard

You know nobody will shout if everyone have the same mind as you and just wait for shouts? and they will all whine about the same thing that nobody is doing stuff? step up if you want to do stuff.

Reason why established LS get stuff accomplished is because they have people that willing to step up and lead the run, LS falls apart when people doesn't step up and wait for people to hold their hand.

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Leading a group or guild isn't for me I done it before. You have to be pretty much on top of replacing people who get bored or quit or the group falls a part. FFXIV has a high turnover of players who quit or get bored or just all of a sudden stop logging on. You are sitting there wondering what happen to my LS there's 50 people on the list and only 4 ever log on. Which to me is the most annoying part the constant finding replacements for people who quit playing.

I have played a couple mmos that had a dungeon queue system and it works well enough so that's why I am waiting for 2.0. If SE can do it right sure will be much easier to get a relic then. In this generation of games most group forming is automated, call it the CoD or WoW effect but that's what a lot of people expect now. You got to admit shouting for making groups is pretty archaic. Once SE puts content finder in 2.0 most of the problems will be solved log in push a button get into the action. Really wouldn't care about bad drop rates at this point cause can just queue up for more if I don't get the drops I wanted.

Yes, alot of casuals doesn't seems to be the leading type which leads them to waiting for hours when all hardcores or the one that are willing to setup are mostly in an established LS.

and yes shout is archaic, that is why people needs to use recruit system, i am glad that i live in JP timezone and they never lacks PUG group everyday and you don't even need to be in Ul'dah because they fully utilize recruit system, not a single day have passed that i don't get to do anything if i am online.

I am also looking forward to cross server content finder! but i am not too sure about getting stuff accomplished lol, easier to get a group together yes, but there bound to be groups that will fail repeatedly if the difficulty keeps increasing content-wise.

maybe once i perfect the rest of my gear and have 10mil to blow, but not before then

I'm like level 15 at the highest, so I doubt I'll be getting anything any time soon. Maybe once I stop leveling everything at the same time and just actually focus on ONE JOB.

Can we have relic botany tools? :c

I can understand why some players have decided not to make getting their relic or relics a priority but this may be a mistake. We need the seal drops from hamlet. Hamlet is being spammed for these seals and is alnost always level two. As more players get their drops and lose interest in hamlet it won't reach level two all the time. Oppertunities to get your seal drops will become rarer. Leave it too long and it'll become difficult.

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Originally Posted by charlemagne

I can understand why some players have decided not to make getting their relic or relics a priority but this may be a mistake. We need the seal drops from hamlet. Hamlet is being spammed for these seals and is alnost always level two. As more players get their drops and lose interest in hamlet it won't reach level two all the time. Oppertunities to get your seal drops will become rarer. Leave it too long and it'll become difficult.

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actualy, not true

as people stop spamming turnins for hamlets, getting into the top 3 will become MUCH easier, which is your second method of getting drops
and several people will do hamlet regardless of rank(me and my shell for instance) and if your with a shell who does alot you can also make them come

ALSO, if your so worried about it being rank 2 you can also farm and turn in all 3 million points worth of drops yourself!

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Originally Posted by syntaxlies

Would be working on it now if it wasn't maintenance. Its really not as bad as people think, unless you have no gil and have to pay for those weapons to break cause you dont craft or gather.

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Or you sat on your hands all of may and now rushing to do it.

Is the top provisioner #1/2/3 each given a shot at seals?

Any idea what the % is on #2 and #3?

Does anyone know if you can get the seal in the top 3 if it is rank 1 hamlet?

If you are in the top 3 do you need to get 60k or 50k chest to get the seal drop? (can you spam T2's and just kill boss quickly to get the seal drop chance from top 3)

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Originally Posted by Tango

Is the top provisioner #1/2/3 each given a shot at seals?
Any idea what the % is on #2 and #3?
Does anyone know if you can get the seal in the top 3 if it is rank 1 hamlet?
If you are in the top 3 do you need to get 60k or 50k chest to get the seal drop? (can you spam T2's and just kill boss quickly to get the seal drop chance from top 3)

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i was #3 the other day and got 4 seals in 11 runs

im guessing they all got the same chance

and as for rank 1 + top 3 seal, dont think anyone knows for sure yet, but im gonna guess "yes" since the outcome of the hamlet has nothing to do with the top 3 reward

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Originally Posted by TheVedis

i was #3 the other day and got 4 seals in 11 runs

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Do you remember if all 4 of your seal runs were 60k?

You are most helpful thanks! I was temped to try going for #3 rather then #1 since on durandal #1 has been from 1m-2m

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Originally Posted by Tango

Do you remember if all 4 of your seal runs were 60k?

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1 was from a 40k run, the others were from higher

as i said, the provisioner reward is in no way linked to your score, it never has been

So if your not in top 3 you can't get Seals?

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Originally Posted by Starlord

So if your not in top 3 you can't get Seals?

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no, if you are top 3 you can get EXTRA seals as a bonus drop(like the crafting and gathering gear)

and from what ive seen, it actualy replaces those drops(i didnt get any of them and got seals instead) so its not added to drop list, but replaces drop list for what you can get that way

no top 3 gives you a bonus chance at seals. the time required to make top 3 is pretty substantial. I'd say 50hours of gathering to get #1 or less if you gather > craft but still a ton of time effort. If you only want 1 or 2 relics I'd say avoiding top 3 race is faster/cheaper but if you want 3+ then you might better spend the time farming for top 3.

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Originally Posted by TheVedis

no, if you are top 3 you can get EXTRA seals as a bonus drop(like the crafting and gathering gear)

and from what ive seen, it actualy replaces those drops(i didnt get any of them and got seals instead) so its not added to drop list, but replaces drop list for what you can get that way

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Ah okay, good to know

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Originally Posted by Tango

no top 3 gives you a bonus chance at seals. the time required to make top 3 is pretty substantial. I'd say 50hours of gathering to get #1 or less if you gather > craft but still a ton of time effort. If you only want 1 or 2 relics I'd say avoiding top 3 race is faster/cheaper but if you want 3+ then you might better spend the time farming for top 3.

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top 3 sure is brutal, i wont deny that, i got into it with 550k points last tuesday at aleport, but its usualy 1+mil if not 2+mil for weekends, you really gotta pick and choose your battles on getting it

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Originally Posted by MicahZerrshia

I'm not the biggest fan of poll threads but curiosity has gotten the better of me.

There is a lot of talk of the displeasure that ppl are feeling about the criteria to obtain a relic weapon. But will the displeasure prevent ppl from working on obtaining a relic?

Will you obtain a relic weapon?


Like here for yes

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In its current format Hamlet Defense holds absolutely no interest for me. Therefore a Relic Weapon is not in my current plans for the future. Hopefully that will change in Ver 2.0. We will see

I won't get one :/

I am still undecided if obtaining a relic Is something I want to invest time into.

How could you say no to this:

http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__...rtemis_Bow.png


It still has that new car smell....

6/9 seals as of today, from my last posts.

It's really not that bad, people. Just invest a little time every day (less than me obviously). You will get progression, even if it is slower.

I am pretty happy with where I sit right now. Though I am also glad I have a week long vacation to get away from hamlet with. Rofl

Everyone's responses have been really interesting.

The only thing holding me back is the double meld and I aint that happy about the 25k gc seals either. I'm one of the few it seems who has never broke at most 5m gil and have no real interest in spending gillions on this double meld weapon (between the weapons themselves and all that materia I can only imagine how much it costs, esp with the price gouging). If they had a better system for getting gc seals it wouldnt be so bad (think conquest points in xi, that would be nice) but having to spam toto-rak on top of all the hamlets and what not....

/moan

You can do chocobo caravans for a good amount of GC points.
Turning in extra ifrit weapons is a massive GC point earner.

The seal system isn't what should be holding you back honestly. Though I agree the double melded weapons can be extremely over the top in price right now, but that's because everyone knows they need them now. Maybe the price will drop in a little while.

I am going to call GC seals points from now on.
Too many seals x.x

by the time the price drops the weapons may be outdated, unless the do allow us to expand them. But introducing the weapon of weapons this early in the game seems a lil odd to me so I am hesitant. We dont even have a true expansion yet so I'm leery is all of blowing my entire wallet on these

I can understand that.
I do a lot of mining so I have gil to blow. There really isn't anything else in the game that one can spend gil on at the moment anyway.

I am going to get the relic on the off chance that they make it upgradable often enough to be worth the investment.
It's a gamble, but I am willing to gamble on Yoshi-P's words. I have been since launch anyway. lol

They already confirmed relic will be upgraded in the future strait form the mouth of Yoshi-P. I don't expect them to stay as BiS like now forever but they will always be relevant.

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Originally Posted by MicahZerrshia

Everyone's responses have been really interesting.

The only thing holding me back is the double meld and I aint that happy about the 25k gc seals either. I'm one of the few it seems who has never broke at most 5m gil and have no real interest in spending gillions on this double meld weapon (between the weapons themselves and all that materia I can only imagine how much it costs, esp with the price gouging). If they had a better system for getting gc seals it wouldnt be so bad (think conquest points in xi, that would be nice) but having to spam toto-rak on top of all the hamlets and what not....

/moan

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Until three days ago I had never had more than 2 mill and usually had well under a mill. Since a lot of rich players want the class weapons asap there is a lot of gil to be made farming the hq mats. I made 10 mill in just three days from trillium+1 and trillium bulbs+1. Bought mats I needed for avengers with the gil and had a LS mate do the crafting. Blew up most of the mats today but got lucky on the second attempt at melding a weapon.

lol, if I get one it would be pretty much by accumulation/accident due to helping others.

Are there any news, if the relics will stay as the best weapon ingame 4ever (i mean that would be the only reason why i would do it lol)

Arkune, haven't they said that the Relic weapons will, in the future, have quests to upgrade them?

That leads to the conclusion that, whereas they might at patches 'dip' they are likely going to stay very potent.
(that said, i'd love if there were a handful of sidegrades)

If they don't change the drop rates in 1.22c or 1.23 the number of likes in that first post is going to drop so hard.

AV/CC drops are so beyond terrible it's not funny.