6.2 Patch Notes

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Originally Posted by RyuDragnier

The male hairstyles were the same short hair, and made me laugh pretty hard.

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It's almost as if there can be variation in the way men style their short hair just like how there can be when women have variations in the way they style their bangs for their long hair. Ponytails do not a whole lot for either gender and at this point I'm pro-genderlocking hairstyles if it means we get something more interesting than the same sort of generic hairstyles we've been seeing. They're boring.

It is 2022 and FFXIV should be doing a whole lot more to impress me on the hairstyle front - and that includes doing more for Hrothgar than just adding ears to the hairstyles that they took them away from.

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Originally Posted by Hurlstone

I am glad I am not the only one who saw those pics as nearly identical... like I am all for more hairstyles, but in my own opinion they where... rather dull.

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Each to their own, I guess. I imagine people primarily playing female characters aren't going to be affected if the numerous requests for more short, masculine hairstyles designed with male characters in mind are honoured.

It's also interesting. I've been consistently asking for more short hairstyles for male characters for years and it's often the same posters showing up time and time again to downplay and sabotage such requests.

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Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth

Well, considering lost Ark is almost a decade newer, I would hope it would have higher quality textures.

And you kind of missed my point in regard to the image.

Aveyond was showing in image with near identical hairstyles, while complaining that we have too many variations of ponytails.

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Its less about the textures and more about how they're made for me, no strange volume in places that shouldn't have or decisions that just ruins the hair(samsonian locks's broom-like ends for example). And tbh FFXIV's hair textures are pretty bad for a 2013 game.

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Originally Posted by Knot_D

https://eu.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodes...757e6a47ce0c51

They gonna unlock the gender restriction on some of the Mogstation gear and I love it :D

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachmen...62/unknown.png

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No i will always hate that, this is a game, if you wanna play a trap, sure, if you wanna play a girl, enjoy, but no, if you play that huge roe or hrotgar and just wanna wear a skimpy dress... just no...


Overall the notes look good and i love the new pvp mout.... finally a dragon.

I think that for the most part, players choose the gender they prefer their character to present as and aren't all that interested in wearing clothes of the opposite sex aside from, understandably, the pants that are often locked to males while women get what feels like an excessive number of shorts in place of them.

While that is indeed frustrating, there isn't a lot of demand for men being able to wear dresses or skirts, especially not the ones from the eastern online store sets that are incredibly rare to see being used in game.

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Originally Posted by Niroken

"The tank, monk, samurai, and reaper modifier for damage taken has been changed from -20% to -30%.
The dragoon and ninja modifier for damage taken has been changed from -15% to -30%.
The physical ranged DPS, healer, black mage, and summoner modifier for damage taken has been changed from -10% to -15%.
The red mage modifier for damage taken has been changed from -10% to -15%."

Well, my interest in Rival Wings has gone right out the window.

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Will have to test once patch drops honestly, the giant mechs used to be scary with right pressure and a good/average Brutal Justice decimates players with team support.

Same thing with the base operable turrets, those hurt.

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Originally Posted by Theodric

Each to their own, I guess. I imagine people primarily playing female characters aren't going to be affected if the numerous requests for more short, masculine hairstyles designed with male characters in mind are honoured.

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I dunno, I bet there are players who would want more masculine/short hair for their female toons. To be clear I am all for more hairstyles of masculine, feminine, and NB design to be added. It may not effect me much, but it would be a bit selfish to just care about my own needs in an MMO! I just feel the hairstyles given as an example where rather lazy and dull personally. Could also be due to not being a fan of that games overall style anyway haha.

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Originally Posted by aveyond-dreams

I think that for the most part, players choose the gender they prefer their character to present as and aren't all that interested in wearing clothes of the opposite sex aside from, understandably, the pants that are often locked to males while women get what feels like an excessive number of shorts in place of them.

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Have to say personally I disagree. Women in suits kick ass. My WHM Glam is her in a butler-like suit and if the Mog Station one ever goes on sale I will be tempted to get it myself. I have seen players ask for more suits for women, and recently more so male players ask for more short-like looks for summer/beach builds.

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While that is indeed frustrating, there isn't a lot of demand for men being able to wear dresses or skirts, especially not the ones from the eastern online store sets that are incredibly rare to see being used in game.

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Even if that is the case, I do not see why gender locks should not become a thing of the past, especially in regards to future/new gear and Mog Station outfits. Customisation should also be open, not restrictive, I feel. Plus whilst I will not pretend to be an expert, I doubt it is the removal of gender locks that is hogging the resources/stopping new designs and updates being created.

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Originally Posted by Kuroka

No i will always hate that, this is a game, if you wanna play a trap, sure, if you wanna play a girl, enjoy, but no, if you play that huge roe or hrotgar and just wanna wear a skimpy dress... just no...

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Sis don't flatter yourself, you're not a looker in the park under any stretch either way with that fashion sense. /s

If people want to wear dresses, bloody let them wear dresses. Hell, it's cultural IRL as well for men to wear flowier stuff than pants or shorts. So who are you to judge?

People clearly wanted these restrictions lifted since Stormblood. And the devs are acquiescing. What others do ain't none of your business, let people play the game as they want to.

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Originally Posted by aveyond-dreams

I think that for the most part, players choose the gender they prefer their character to present as and aren't all that interested in wearing clothes of the opposite sex aside from, understandably, the pants that are often locked to males while women get what feels like an excessive number of shorts in place of them. .

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Well id love more "Masculine" Options. My character isnt another typical pretty Princess. So is more of a Tomboy.
Id love there to be more options for Pants instead of Skirts and shorts. Id love to be able to wear alot of the outfits that are Male only; some of the Garo Gear for instance.
Id love if the Scion Outfit had an option for Females to wear the Tie instead of that Prissy Ascot.
Id love if I could wear the Male Version of alot of Store items
Quite happy am I that I can wear the Loyal Butler Outfit on my Main here, and for giggles I can wear the Maid outfit on my Hrothgar Alt.

There probly isn't ALOT of us, but Im sure there is a decent Number of us that would love if they made more Gender Neutral outfits, or offer options that both Genders can wear either set.

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Originally Posted by Kuroka

No i will always hate that, this is a game, if you wanna play a trap, sure, if you wanna play a girl, enjoy, but no, if you play that huge roe or hrotgar and just wanna wear a skimpy dress... just no...

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I disagree. More Burly Men in Skirts!
Why should traps get all the fun but MEN shouldnt get the ability?

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Originally Posted by Kuroka

No i will always hate that, this is a game, if you wanna play a trap, sure, if you wanna play a girl, enjoy, but no, if you play that huge roe or hrotgar and just wanna wear a skimpy dress... just no...

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Urge to make a Hogarta male who struts around in their best skirt and boots combo rising...

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Originally Posted by Hurlstone

Urge to make a Hogarta male who struts around in their best skirt and boots combo rising...

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https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/i...QUYZY&usqp=CAU

I was hoping for the Nezha Lord's Attire and/or the Eastern Lord Errant's Attire to be gender unlocked, so I could have more options to create "tomboy Shōnen protagonist" glams for my character.
Oh well, I can wait.

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Originally Posted by ronibosch

I was hoping for the Nezha Lord's Attire and/or the Eastern Lord Errant's Attire to be gender unlocked, so I could have more options to create "tomboy Shōnen protagonist" glams for my character.
Oh well, I can wait.

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Hopefully one day that can give you that ability.
No Meme, no Joke, Im rooting for ya.

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Originally Posted by Zanarkand-Ronso

Hopefully one day that can give you that ability.
No Meme, no Joke, Im rooting for ya.

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Thanks! I'm pretty grateful for the gender unlocked outfits so far. I love my fem Viera too much to fantasia from her, but I've always liked the look of JRPG characters like Ryu from the BoF series or Blue from Saga Frontier.
Not that I don't enjoy a feminine glam from time to time. :3

"HP restoration over time will no longer generate enmity with each tick of healing."
Cool.

"The status effects Force Against Might and Force Against Magic will no longer be removed if the afflicted player's HP reaches 0."
Should make things easier if people are alert, or harder if not.

"The maximum store for crafters' scrips and gatherers' scrips has been increased from 2,000 to 4,000."
Cool, though no sign of the i600 scrip gear?

"The number of mounts/minions displayed on a single page has been increased from 25 to 30."
Cool.

And now we wait for the balance changes.

I was really hopeful because in the 1st PLL for Patch 6.2 they showed off this big island with stark cliffs overlooking the initial beachhead and who knows what else. Now in the patch notes we can see a partially revealed map. We can see the beachhead and a small path leading off it. Can't walk on the cliffs or any of the surrounding areas. So instead of a large island where you can actually go everywhere, jump, climb, explore etc. We have a usual FFXIV zone that looks expansive but in reality is restrictive in the exploration and gameplay. What's the point of having this "huge" zone if you can't actually explore everywhere?

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Originally Posted by Kuroka

No i will always hate that, this is a game, if you wanna play a trap, sure, if you wanna play a girl, enjoy, but no, if you play that huge roe or hrotgar and just wanna wear a skimpy dress... just no...

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Yup. I will always be on the side that this a complete waste of time and resources. All they have to do is just let this bag of bricks go, but they insist on carrying it around.

Patiently waiting for the far eastern schoolboy hat to become gender neutral. It's a hat with glasses; I have no idea why that's still gender segregated to males only while guys are able to run around in skirts and dresses with no problem. I don't have an issue with crossdressers, but like, come on man. Let me wear the damn hat. "Boys only" while the boys are running around in maid frills

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Originally Posted by Ryaze

What's the point of having this "huge" zone if you can't actually explore everywhere?

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What's the point of exploring when there's nothing there to discover or to do? Screenshots or something? All FFXIV maps are void of points of interest since all information is tied to a side quest, if there even is any inforemation.

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Originally Posted by Misplaced_Marbles

What's the point of exploring when there's nothing there to discover or to do? Screenshots or something? All FFXIV maps are void of points of interest since all information is tied to a side quest, if there even is any inforemation.

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So your argument is that because FFXIV exploration is already not as good as other MMOs/open world games, it's fine for it to be even worse?

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Originally Posted by Avoidy

Patiently waiting for the far eastern schoolboy hat to become gender neutral. It's a hat with glasses; I have no idea why that's still gender segregated to males only while guys are able to run around in skirts and dresses with no problem. I don't have an issue with crossdressers, but like, come on man. Let me wear the damn hat. "Boys only" while the boys are running around in maid frills

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Similarly, I'm looking forward to getting some of the legwear from the unlocked sets. The last time I checked boys in the real world could wear shorts that didn't come down to their calves but the designers are weirdly allergic to allowing us to do that in XIV.

Hope that you get your hat-with-glasses soon!

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Originally Posted by Kuroka

No i will always hate that, this is a game, if you wanna play a trap, sure, if you wanna play a girl, enjoy, but no, if you play that huge roe or hrotgar and just wanna wear a skimpy dress... just no...

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Okay lizard girl.

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Originally Posted by Avoidy

Patiently waiting for the far eastern schoolboy hat to become gender neutral. It's a hat with glasses; I have no idea why that's still gender segregated to males only while guys are able to run around in skirts and dresses with no problem. I don't have an issue with crossdressers, but like, come on man. Let me wear the damn hat. "Boys only" while the boys are running around in maid frills

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I'm still trying to figure out why Glasses aren't just put in the earring slot so people can wear both.

I'm not knowing much about these Island Sanctuary things, but, seems like a huge missed opportunity to not have them available early to draw new players in. Would've been great to tell a friend, who loves minions, they'd have a place to let many of them roam free... but they're still slowly making their way through ARR...

I'm hoping the Coffer Manifest feature will also apply to PLD sword/shield combo items... Ever since everything was combined, I've completely abandoned trying to see if there's any glams I want to craft, because you can't try anything on from the crafting menu.

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Originally Posted by aveyond-dreams

If only the resources dedicated to removing the gender-lock from those Mogstation only gearsets were applied towards modeling new and original masculine and feminine hairstyles. I am not impressed by the ones displayed in the notes nor do I benefit from removing the genderlock of those gear pieces, most of which I never see people even using in game. I feel that they should reconsider their priorities in this regard.

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This is a really subjective complaint. While you might be displeased by what had been worked on, others might really enjoy that, and I say it particularly not liking these hairstyles and glamour unlocks.

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Originally Posted by Hasrat

I'm not knowing much about these Island Sanctuary things, but, seems like a huge missed opportunity to not have them available early to draw new players in. Would've been great to tell a friend, who loves minions, they'd have a place to let many of them roam free... but they're still slowly making their way through ARR...

I'm hoping the Coffer Manifest feature will also apply to PLD sword/shield combo items... Ever since everything was combined, I've completely abandoned trying to see if there's any glams I want to craft, because you can't try anything on from the crafting menu.

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In the case of FFXIV, I feel this will be okay, because there's already a ton of content available to people just starting out. And I haven't seen this confirmed, but it sounds like people can start at least visiting other players' Island Sanctuaries as soon as they finish ARR, giving them something else to look forward to down the line.

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Originally Posted by Striker44

In the case of FFXIV, I feel this will be okay, because there's already a ton of content available to people just starting out. And I haven't seen this confirmed, but it sounds like people can start at least visiting other players' Island Sanctuaries as soon as they finish ARR, giving them something else to look forward to down the line.

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How much of that content appeals to minion collectors?

Gonna disagree with your opinion here. Island Sanctuary seems like it represents a different style of content that otherwise isn't available early on, making it something that has a far greater chance of attracting players that are otherwise not interested in many other branches of content.

I ain't saying make it available at level 10. But 90 is excessive.

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Originally Posted by aveyond-dreams

If only the resources dedicated to removing the gender-lock from those Mogstation only gearsets were applied towards modeling new and original masculine and feminine hairstyles. I am not impressed by the ones displayed in the notes nor do I benefit from removing the genderlock of those gear pieces, most of which I never see people even using in game. I feel that they should reconsider their priorities in this regard.

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better vote with your sub then. stop supporting them if you don't like where things are going.

either that or buy enough stock to get on the board of directors so you can tell them what you want to happen.

Guess I'll keep waiting for the Valentiones set being gender neutral :(

At long last the Far Eastern Officer's Uniform is mine!!!! Just need the Eastern Lord Errant's Attire and that stellar Valentine's day vest that male characters got a few years ago and I'll be set for all the outfits I've wanted to be unlocked.

"Here you may access the orchestrion to play your favorite tunes"

Can we set up an automatic playlist like we can in our apartment, or is it just like the inn-room one that nobody uses because manually selecting a track every time is annoying?

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Originally Posted by Gemina

I can't speak for the males because I don't consistently look at their CC options. For females though we don't have hairstyles anywhere near those. The closest to something similar would be #2, which is very similar to Yotsuyu's hairstyle and is not available to players. I would be one happy camper if we had even two of those options.

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Highlander females at least do have really similar ones. I just popped onto the aesthetician and these are all very similar to that set from Lost Ark. 1, 3, and 4 of the LA pictures could almost be the same hairstyle too so those look pretty generic and samey to me but manage to look different in XIV.

https://i.imgur.com/wklDk4N.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/oMNk0eT.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/FoIc3jR.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/ONMB8oj.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/Lk4m6DX.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/PcqiK7G.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/Q1c36Fz.jpg

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Originally Posted by Kuroka

No i will always hate that, this is a game, if you wanna play a trap, sure, if you wanna play a girl, enjoy, but no, if you play that huge roe or hrotgar and just wanna wear a skimpy dress... just no...

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Who died and made you the Eorzean Fashion Police? What someone else wears isn't your business or your choice.

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Originally Posted by Gemina

Yup. I will always be on the side that this a complete waste of time and resources. All they have to do is just let this bag of bricks go, but they insist on carrying it around.

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"All they have to do is sacrifice their self-expression. Why is that so hard?"

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Originally Posted by Kuroka

No i will always hate that, this is a game, if you wanna play a trap, sure, if you wanna play a girl, enjoy, but no, if you play that huge roe or hrotgar and just wanna wear a skimpy dress... just no...


Overall the notes look good and i love the new pvp mout.... finally a dragon.

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*honk honk*

Then we shall have to agree to disagree on the matter. I do not consider the recent hairstyle additions in FFXIV of the quality appropriate for 2022, and I do not consider especially the male ponytail to have sufficient texture quality compared to the female variant. The hairstyles you have listed are either racially exclusive, released in 2013, styled in stiff or unnatural ways, or in the case of the Hime cut you have posted not used by the playerbase at large due to issues with its design, specifically with how it looks from the back.

Speaking of how hairs look from the back, this the quality that is able to be achieved when the fear of clipping is overcome. I would much sooner dress my female characters in clothes that avoid clipping than be forced to have hairstyles that are gender neutral and generic, for lack of a better term. FFXIV needs to step it up in this regard, the sooner the better. The standards for character customization in this game must be held up if not raised further. Once more, accepting the status quo is not to FFXIV's benefit while other games far exceed these restrictions.

https://i.imgur.com/dqSnZT9.png

Identify what is causing the limitations, and overcome it. Whether that is resources being taken up by other projects, rearranging the list of priorities, or fundamental flaws at the design/modelling stage. Even WoW offers more unique and fantastical hairstyles for both genders of their races than FFXIV does. 50+ short to mid-length hairstyles that don't match with the fantasy of either gender simply doesn't help matters much. Of these more recent releases, aside from the Adventurer hair and Form and Function I cannot think of any that the playerbase would be quite upset to see exchanged for something of higher quality.

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Originally Posted by aveyond-dreams

Then we shall have to agree to disagree on the matter. I do not consider the recent hairstyle additions in FFXIV of the quality appropriate for 2022, and I do not consider especially the male ponytail to have sufficient texture quality compared to the female variant. The hairstyles you have listed are either racially exclusive, released in 2013, styled in stiff or unnatural ways, or in the case of the Hime cut you have posted not used by the playerbase at large due to issues with its design, specifically with how it looks from the back.

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That's fine. That's your opinion. The question was do we have similar hairstyles already and we do. And most of those aren't racially exclusive. I popped over to my lala alt and found almost all them minus whatever I didn't have books for and maybe one other. The hairstyles you posted reminded me of that "Can I copy your homework" meme. They might have texture quality but they feel very flat and feel like they lack any sense of individuality to me. Only the 5th one seems to display any sense of variety and one thing we can say about XIV's hairstyles is that they don't lack in variety. It's not always variety to my personal tastes, but it is wide and varied. You have a point on clipping, but if your idea is the "standards" need to be boring and samey hairstyles, then I'd stand in complete opposition to that. Has nothing to do with status quo and has everything to do with individual taste.

We're getting graphic upgrades have to wait and see to what extent things will be improved. Got to love the negativist comparing a newly released game to one that is 10 years old. Perhaps wait and see what the upgrades bring and then complain.

Overall FFXIV looks great in 4k on my system so I'm still pretty happy.

Yet still, they keep adding gender locked gear/variants :s

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Originally Posted by aveyond-dreams

If only the resources dedicated to removing the gender-lock from those Mogstation only gearsets were applied towards modeling new and original masculine and feminine hairstyles. I am not impressed by the ones displayed in the notes nor do I benefit from removing the genderlock of those gear pieces, most of which I never see people even using in game. I feel that they should reconsider their priorities in this regard.

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You really have to be "that guy". dont you?

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that are incredibly rare to see being used in game.

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On which server. Yours? I have seen more than a few on JP, NA and OCE servers.

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Even WoW offers more unique and fantastical hairstyles for both genders of their races than FFXIV does.

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