To the one who left the CT Alliance before we even started...

help I can't swim through all of these semantics and I am drowning

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Originally Posted by Scaramouche

Nor do they let you progress without killing ifrit/garuda/titan and they aren't part of msq.

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so u do understand what "main scenario quest" means but u refuse to admit it, very cool

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Originally Posted by Ransu

To be fair CT really should be part of the MSQ roulette. The reason why it pops so much in the alliance roulette is because;

1.) Its mandatory to progress the MSQ unlike the later raids so its already going to pop more often.

2.) Its easy to guarantee that one to pop because players remove all their gear for fast and easy exp.

Place CT into the MSQ roulette would fix both problems.

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Good idea putting 24 man instances and 4 man instances in the same roulette I'm sure new players trying to continue their msq will love their 12h queue.

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Originally Posted by Scaramouche

Good idea putting 24 man instances and 4 man instances in the same roulette I'm sure new players trying to continue their msq will love their 12h queue.

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whats ur point here brother, ur not saying anything about why CT is bad, only why changing it to a 4 man is bad, which is still something within the developers power to address

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Originally Posted by technole

It's not part of the main story, only just a road block in the 5.x series which is very far, but you are going to pass it by it anyway, free trial players do go into it more often than not.

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No, no it is mandatory now. Can't progress to HW til you do CT. I did this with a friend on alts.

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Originally Posted by Scaramouche

Good idea putting 24 man instances and 4 man instances in the same roulette I'm sure new players trying to continue their msq will love their 12h queue.

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The roulette fills whats needed with what is available...

ITs not going to increase queue times. Otherwise you would never get 8man ex fights, guildhests, 4 man dungeons, etc, in mentor roulette, because 24mans exist.

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Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth

The roulette fills whats needed with what is available...

ITs not going to increase queue times. Otherwise you would never get 8man ex fights, guildhests, 4 man dungeons, etc, in mentor roulette, because 24mans exist.

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boy howdy i can tell u i get guildhests and ex fights frequently.

Why do i have the feeling the people saying CT should be part of MSQ roulette would be right back and complain about getting CT in MSQ roulette...

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Originally Posted by Scaramouche

Good idea putting 24 man instances and 4 man instances in the same roulette I'm sure new players trying to continue their msq will love their 12h queue.

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The queue wont be that long lol.

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Originally Posted by Ranaku

Why do i have the feeling the people saying CT should be part of MSQ roulette would be right back and complain about getting CT in MSQ roulette...

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Let me share a quote from a great man who was far ahead of his time

"You think you do, but you dont"

Can I have some of these Crystal Towers? Or, like, anything not Paradigm's Breach? I've had eleven days of Paradigm's Breach. I think I'm forgetting half of the mechanics in the Ivalice raids, it's been so long.

My alt had every Alliance Raid series unlocked except CT. Her roulettes were perfect. Now that I had to unlock it for her to progress the MSQ I find myself doing that roulette far less.

Let us PLEASE have a simple blacklist. You already have people stripping gear off to not do anything but CT, and everyone else should have the same option to opt out of that series.

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Originally Posted by LisSquid

My alt had every Alliance Raid series unlocked except CT. Her roulettes were perfect. Now that I had to unlock it for her to progress the MSQ I find myself doing that roulette far less.

Let us PLEASE have a simple blacklist. You already have people stripping gear off to not do anything but CT, and everyone else should have the same option to opt out of that series.

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Yeah, that's what a friend and I did. We were testing if we can avoid CT and unlock the other alliance raids but we hit that CT mandatory wall sobs

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Originally Posted by Ath192

Please... CT is the most braindead easy alliance raid everyone loves to ilvl cheese and thats why we get the majority of those runs. This coin has two sides. But rest assured, unless it lands standing up, either side will land you on a CT run. They should fix that raid.

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CT Series is the only alliance raid hard required for MSQ, the others are entirely optional. As in, it won't let you progress the MSQ into Heavensward until you do them. But anyway they just need to lower the ilvl syncs to make them not braindead, problem solved.

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Originally Posted by LisSquid

My alt had every Alliance Raid series unlocked except CT. Her roulettes were perfect. Now that I had to unlock it for her to progress the MSQ I find myself doing that roulette far less.

Let us PLEASE have a simple blacklist. You already have people stripping gear off to not do anything but CT, and everyone else should have the same option to opt out of that series.

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Blacklisting makes no sense tho, you are basically there and getting rewards for doing old outdated content. A blacklist would defeat that purpose of roulette, with a blacklist you can remove roulette entirely anyways. Roulette is for most players not about "fun" but about getting the cramped up rewards for stuff they probably don't want to do, like CT. Or Aurum Vale...<shivers>

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Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth

They aren't wrong, it's part of MSQ. You almost always have a new person in every run.

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That's another reason I like it - bonus poetics!

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Originally Posted by Ranaku

Blacklisting makes no sense tho, you are basically there and getting rewards for doing old outdated content. A blacklist would defeat that purpose of roulette, with a blacklist you can remove roulette entirely anyways. Roulette is for most players not about "fun" but about getting the cramped up rewards for stuff they probably don't want to do, like CT. Or Aurum Vale...<shivers>

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You could allow me to blacklist only 2 of the raids and I'd find it worth. Hell even 1 would suffice in the grand scheme for me: bye bye Sycrus Tower may you rot in the seventh pit. At least LotA and WoD have the possibility of a wipe.

Separating CT raid from AR pool will probably just force people to cheese it to get into Void Ark.

Yeah, no. Nerf the CT raid reward and buff the others. The 2 from 3 former raid series takes less than 15m to clear but still give the same reward while the other series can easily eat more than 20m. They were able to scale the reward somewhat in the old MSR. They should be able to do something similar to AR as well.

While it is definitely abused there are also sometimes new players in there.

All that needs to be done is increase the rewards for the other raids that way they are worth doing or force an ilv synch on CT. To be honest though playing my class at lv 50 is the dregs and making it take longer is not my idea of fun. If I get the Crystal Tower raids I want to be out of there asap.

I went into WoD today and the freaking thing took forever I guess too many people afk or new.

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Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth

Ilvl syncs. 90 for lota, 110 for CT. Make people do mechanics again lol.

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90 and 110 are probably still too high for those raids. Heck, once people were either in i100-i110 gear on both left and right side, people were skipping mechanics easily back then (ST just wasn't a well made/tuned raid. It feels like they treated it like a regular dungeon).

I feel like they should do both. Harsher ilvl sync to stop mechanics skips and increase the rewards for doing higher alliance raids, like as much as double the exp for the nier raids. I still see ilvl cheeses to CT with no one below 70 in all alliances.