Are FF14 players more feminine

Pardon me for asking this in this thread, but I didn't know where else to ask. If a Hrothgar and a Hyur have a baby, is the baby a Miqote?

grril please.. everyone knows it's a lala.!

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That's a pretty feminine beard you've got there sis

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Its sure not a big strong manly face bush:D:D:D

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Originally Posted by SieyaM

This thread is full of wonderful fried and grilled chicken recipes, best thread ever 10/10.

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A food discussion is probably the best thing to ever come out of a troll thread. I wish it would happen more often!

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Originally Posted by SieyaM

This thread is full of wonderful fried and grilled chicken recipes, best thread ever 10/10.

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Long as no one is trying to deep fry a turkey with a whole chicken stuffed inside it. All will be good and peaceful in the world.

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Originally Posted by NanaWiloh

Long as no one is trying to deep fry a turkey with a whole chicken stuffed inside it. All will be good and peaceful in the world.

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What's wrong with that? Fried turkey's delicious!

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Originally Posted by Illmaeran

What's wrong with that? Fried turkey's delicious!

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With a chicken stuffed inside?!

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Yes I keep a lot of glams. You never know when you're gonna need to bear a passing resemblance to someone.

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Originally Posted by Jin-

Thanks for burning my eyes.

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it's a drag queen, calm down.

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Originally Posted by Haillenartes

...Anyways, I've been meaning to make the coffee biscuits from the cookbook.

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Do it, they're great.

We're working our way through the rolanberry cheesecake right now. I don't even like cheesecake much, but it's pretty good. Should've used more graham crackers for the crust, but that's on us.

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Originally Posted by kpxmanifesto

Pardon me for asking this in this thread, but I didn't know where else to ask. If a Hrothgar and a Hyur have a baby, is the baby a Miqote?

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Yes because Hyur are the original races that all the other are derived from so Hyur + coeurlregina = Hrothgar. So Hrothgar + Hyur = Miqo'te

I made spicy Thai bowls. The original recipe called for pork, but I used ground turkey instead. Still came out quite tasty.

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Originally Posted by myahele

Yes because Hyur are the original races that all the other are derived from so Hyur + coeurlregina = Hrothgar. So Hrothgar + Hyur = Miqo'te

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So a bunch of ancient hyur got really into bestiality and now we have multiple races?

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Originally Posted by myahele

Yes because Hyur are the original races that all the other are derived from so Hyur + coeurlregina = Hrothgar. So Hrothgar + Hyur = Miqo'te

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The logic is sound. Thanks for clarifying this pressing matter.

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Originally Posted by Catwho

I made spicy Thai bowls. The original recipe called for pork, but I used ground turkey instead. Still came out quite tasty.

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You know, I don't think I've ever made a Thai bowl. Any tips for a first timer?

I was actually watching lost ark video of Asmon and seeing that he got this "house maid" at his land who was very skimpy. All I was thinking "is this gender locked? cause if yes, i dun really wanna play that game". Don't get me wrong I do like to see pretty girls in games even as a straight girl, but to me showing a stereotypic big booba submissive side chick is not appealing.

I think many game devs still do not cater to female audiences for following reasons (list is not comprehensive of course, but this is all i could think about):
1. They dont know how
2. They still think its not as lucrative as male gamer audience
3. They genuinely just do not consider if this game will cater to both gender or not, because majority working in this industry in development phase, are still man, and thus they do not stop to think about it. (They might not have any malice behind it, just not really even popping into their mind)

However, I am not saying this is the case all the time. Clearly, some devs know exactly what to do. But there are still companies filled with people who think "pew pew games are for bois, dress up or farmville mobile apps are for guuuurls"

But here is a question to all the guys out there: Do you enjoy games where you can play with also a more feminine audience, or do you want a game where you only have your "homies"?
To me, I like when there is a good mix of girls and bois. But I have seen some people (from both gender btw) who just want something that more filled with players of their gender.

Did you post in the wrong thread? This one was about how to cook chicken. The LA thread is the other one.

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Originally Posted by myahele

Yes because Hyur are the original races that all the other are derived from so Hyur + coeurlregina = Hrothgar. So Hrothgar + Hyur = Miqo'te

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I'm just a hrothgar with a skin(fur?) condition. Someday Yoshi P with administer my hair plugs to cure me of my hyur pattern baldness.

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Originally Posted by Shuuli

I was actually watching lost ark video of Asmon and seeing that he got this "house maid" at his land who was very skimpy. All I was thinking "is this gender locked? cause if yes, i dun really wanna play that game". Don't get me wrong I do like to see pretty girls in games even as a straight girl, but to me showing a stereotypic big booba submissive side chick is not appealing.

I think many game devs still do not cater to female audiences for following reasons (list is not comprehensive of course, but this is all i could think about):
1. They dont know how
2. They still think its not as lucrative as male gamer audience
3. They genuinely just do not consider if this game will cater to both gender or not, because majority working in this industry in development phase, are still man, and thus they do not stop to think about it. (They might not have any malice behind it, just not really even popping into their mind)

However, I am not saying this is the case all the time. Clearly, some devs know exactly what to do. But there are still companies filled with people who think "pew pew games are for bois, dress up or farmville mobile apps are for guuuurls"

But here is a question to all the guys out there: Do you enjoy games where you can play with also a more feminine audience, or do you want a game where you only have your "homies"?
To me, I like when there is a good mix of girls and bois. But I have seen some people (from both gender btw) who just want something that more filled with players of their gender.

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There are a ton of guys who just want to play with their "bros" or "homies". They're just too afraid to say it out loud. I myself can fit in anywhere but there are definitely times when I miss the rough male banter that you can hardly find in FF14 naturally; it's typically limited to statics and private discords. It's everywhere on Lost Ark right now lol. FF14 is definitely a pretty introverted and more feminine game, which I appreciate because it can be tiring when it's just rowdy male banter verging on bigotry 24/7.

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Clearly, some devs know exactly what to do.

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I'm certain SE knew exactly what to do with FF14 to attract both types of players. It no doubt contributed to its huge success. The culture in FF14 is also far more balanced and welcoming as a result. Even with a global chat in FF14, I doubt FF14 players will spew bigotry about how homosexuality is a disease, which I've already seen in Lost Ark twice, much to my amusement - but I definitely would get tired of it in a few weeks. FF14 has a far more comfortable culture, even in the more toxic parts of the community, and no doubt this is a huge reason why players stick with FF14.

In many ways, I think SE intentionally or unintentionally designed FF14 to automatically repel or subsume the sort of toxic masculine culture that you see in most other MMOs. I know a lot of rowdy guys who just naturally became less toxic simply by playing FF14.

The addition of Midlander stubble helped a lot, though I've long since felt as if the game focuses a bit too much on feminine and androgynous aesthetics in a way that the other Final Fantasy games did not. I'd love to be able to create and play a classically handsome, tall guy like Snow, Gladio or Basch but at the moment that simply isn't possible.

Which is a shame, since as a gay guy who is fond of masculinity I'm not exactly eager to obsess over feminine or androgynous aesthetics. It doesn't do anything for me.

New glamour is usually a mixed bag. Some of it works for what I like, some of it doesn't - which I'm fine with. When it comes to hairstyles, however...well, most of the ones I use are from the days of ARR. I'd like more normal looking short hairstyles that are designed with male characters in mind first and foremost.

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Originally Posted by Theodric

The addition of Midlander stubble helped a lot, though I've long since felt as if the game focuses a bit too much on feminine and androgynous aesthetics in a way that the other Final Fantasy games did not. I'd love to be able to create and play a classically handsome, tall guy like Snow, Gladio or Basch but at the moment that simply isn't possible.

Which is a shame, since as a gay guy who is fond of masculinity I'm not exactly eager to obsess over feminine or androgynous aesthetics. It doesn't do anything for me.

New glamour is usually a mixed bag. Some of it works for what I like, some of it doesn't - which I'm fine with. When it comes to hairstyles, however...well, most of the ones I use are from the days of ARR. I'd like more normal looking short hairstyles that are designed with male characters in mind first and foremost.

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Male characters in this game just look kind of dumb, ugly, or generic. I typically will play both, since I do like the dynamic that a male character can have. Generally, I love putting them in heavy or 'cool' armors, and I also like them to be handsome, or good looking as well - western beauty standards. This game just doesn't have very cool armor, and the majority of hairstyles on males look pretty awful, or just don't bring out the look I want to go for. Also, yeah, tall. Midlanders are too short. Still, midlanders are the best we have currently.

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Originally Posted by SturmChurro

Male characters in this game just look kind of dumb, ugly, or generic. I typically will play both, since I do like the dynamic that a male character can have. Generally, I love putting them in heavy or 'cool' armors, and I also like them to be handsome, or good looking as well - western beauty standards. This game just doesn't have very cool armor, and the majority of hairstyles on males look pretty dumb, or just don't bring out the look I want to go for. Also, yeah, tall. Midlanders are too short. Still, midlanders are the best we have currently.

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I leveled paladin to 90 just because of the AF. Admit it, that armor is very cool. It even has a lance rest!

... and on the topic of social competitive activities, I now want chocobo jousting. With MGP betting.

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Originally Posted by van_arn

This, coupled with the TOS already in place, makes the game very ... difficult to confront players in even if you have good reason to confront them. Passive-aggressiveness wins the day, not the typical "bro" behavior of just spilling your guts, sleeping on it, and being fine with each other next day.

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True and based.

It's way healthier to be upfront and direct.

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Originally Posted by van_arn

We could also use a little social competition in the game. The traditional answer to this is a solid PVP system, but ours is... very antisocial; queued PVP padded by people that don't even care about PVP beyond their daily roulettes. Aside from our lacking PVP, I can't even think of a social competitive scene in this game outside of maybe the world first race or possibly the dreaded Logs Rankings that aren't even part of the game. What, Verminion's leaderboard? Fashion report? I'm genuinely drawing a blank and coming up with nonsense.

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Well, there's Feast, which is not in season anymore; and then there's FFLogs. So it's either just hardcore small scale PvP or Savage PvE (not a lot of people even bother speedrunning Ultimates).

Feast was honestly fun, but the community being so small makes it difficult to disengage from any drama. God knows there was so much drama in S20.

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Originally Posted by Skiros

Feast was honestly fun, but the community being so small makes it difficult to disengage from any drama. God knows there was so much drama in S20.

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Drama is a feature of PVP, actually. It just needs to be the right kind of drama: drama that fuels more PVP.

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Originally Posted by van_arn

Drama is a feature of PVP, actually. It just needs to be the right kind of drama: drama that fuels more PVP.

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True, but not when the drama is people manipulating rankings, wintrading to get someone who "deserves" to get rank 1 onto rank 1, or witchhunting innocent players that have never boosted people with DMs taken out of context. Sadly this type of drama became more prevalent towards the end of the season. The salty kind of drama - going into Paissa @ing someone after a match and telling them to not be a terrorist - that is fun.

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Originally Posted by Lunalepsy

Have you seen how passive aggressive people are in this game?

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Well, I sure haven't. Any time I point out that someones "playstyle" is a detriment to the combined effort of the party, they jump down my throat, usually with insults. Only reason they might get passive aggressive is if they have their friend at their back for that good old entertainment, but even then they usually prefer to gang up on the voice of reason, especially when they realize it's no fun on someone who can give as good as they get (yeah, pretty counter-intuitive that). Regardless, the rest of the party would rather not interact in any way and get the duty done (I'd say "as quicly as possible", but with the kind of people I deal with on a daily basis, it most certainly is not a factor).

Then you can take the high road or leave. Or waste time arguing if you're into that, i guess.

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Originally Posted by Kacho_Nacho

You know, I don't think I've ever made a Thai bowl. Any tips for a first timer?

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The Thai red curry paste is a big shortcut if you can find it in the stores.

And use regular coconut milk, not light, otherwise the sauce might come out too watery.

I did something pretty similar to this, but I used a totally different vegetable profile since my husband has the palette of a toddler and won't eat broccoli or carrots. I used onion and green peppers in addition to the red peppers, instead.

https://www.lemonblossoms.com/blog/t...th-vegetables/

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Originally Posted by Catwho

The Thai red curry paste is a big shortcut if you can find it in the stores.

And use regular coconut milk, not light, otherwise the sauce might come out too watery.

I did something pretty similar to this, but I used a totally different vegetable profile since my husband has the palette of a toddler and won't eat broccoli or carrots. I used onion and green peppers in addition to the red peppers, instead.

https://www.lemonblossoms.com/blog/t...th-vegetables/

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Thanks! I now have something new to try this weekend. :D

Here's a recipe that's identical to my stepdad's butter and beer bbq chicken.

https://www.beyondthechickencoop.com...d-bbq-chicken/

There's a lot more femininity in this game than in any other MMO that I've played that's for sure.

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Originally Posted by Haruka_R

There's a lot more femininity in this game than in any other MMO that I've played that's for sure.

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I mean heck they even gave male characters dresses and remove gender requirements on other feminine stuff, I don't know any other game that does that so much. Yet people are still not satisfied and want even more of that...

I'm dissapointed noone posted this
https://i.imgur.com/dqdMMWR.png

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Originally Posted by Shuuli

I was actually watching lost ark video of Asmon and seeing that he got this "house maid" at his land who was very skimpy. All I was thinking "is this gender locked? cause if yes, i dun really wanna play that game". Don't get me wrong I do like to see pretty girls in games even as a straight girl, but to me showing a stereotypic big booba submissive side chick is not appealing.

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That’s typical Korean MMO, and I am grateful FFXIV don’t follow the “chain mail bikini on female, full plate on male” non sense

XIV players means all of them. Look at Xenosys and tell me if he is at all feminine.

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Originally Posted by Lieri

XIV players means all of them. Look at Xenosys and tell me if he is at all feminine.

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But Xenos is our uwu strummer waifu.

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Originally Posted by Misutoraru

That’s typical Korean MMO, and I am grateful FFXIV don’t follow the “chain mail bikini on female, full plate on male” non sense

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Yeah, I do like how XIV's palette is broad enough to include male subligaria and female full plate. It just tends to do the female full plate a lot better than the male options -- again, as a tendency.

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Originally Posted by Atreides

But Xenos is our uwu strummer waifu.

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So is Asmon a discarded waifu flavor of the month?

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Originally Posted by Shuuli

But here is a question to all the guys out there: Do you enjoy games where you can play with also a more feminine audience, or do you want a game where you only have your "homies"?

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I like playing games with people who are nice and fun to interact with, regardless of gender, etc. While I enjoy eye candy as much as the next person, I do prefer games that encourage both males and females to play as it only increases the probability of finding cool people to play with. Art design that's blatantly hyper sexual isn't to my taste which is one of the reasons I appreciate this game so much; the majority of outfits have realistic covering and are tasteful when on the sexy side.

All art styles have their target audience who appreciate said style, but the closer they get to Rule 34 the less likely I am to play them; especially if it's skewed heavily toward skimpy outfits for females and not males as they tend to attract a higher proportion of guys and in my experience the higher the percentage of males in the player base the more likely aggressive behavior is.

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Originally Posted by van_arn

I now want chocobo jousting.

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This alone would get me into Chocobo breeding. What a fantastic idea! I'm not sure the betting would be a good thing as it would be far too easy for people to throw matches for MGP just like we've seen people throwing more traditional PVP matches for easy currency in this and other games.

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Originally Posted by Bacent

Are you feminine?

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Skiros femboy confirmed????

It definitly is.

On a side-note : I like the way they treat the "sexy" equipment in this game. I don't particularly like the classic "plate-bikini" that you find in most MMOs.

... But I also find that censoring it isn't necessarily the best way to go. In FF they chose to let everyone have the choice to be half naked. It's much more egalitarian in the end.

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Originally Posted by BaconBits

Skiros femboy confirmed????

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I think you've got it pegged.