Good Launch Square. Good Job

Stuck in 8000+ queue only to be booted out with a 2002 error each time ;_;

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Originally Posted by FFWinner

Sorry but are you defending a billion dollar company from being unable to deliver a functioning product to paying customers who don't use 3rd party cheating software? Cause that sounds awfully like what it is.

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All the 3rd party launcher does is save your password. It still logs in through the normal launcher, it just doesn't show it on screen.

Sat through a 4k queue that took about 1 hour and several disconnects... finally get into game and get disconnected 10 seconds later... launch game again and now am position 8615 in queue. Would be nice if you at least got to skip the queue if you've already sat through it once.

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Originally Posted by Crimen

I get the frustration, but you'll get in. Chiiiiilllllllll. Most expansion launches (if not all) are like this. It can of course always be done better in hindsight but raging on the forums won't let you get in any faster. They already have a stance against havibg software to check for 3rd party programs for privacy reasons. I agree getting kicked and immediately losing your queue sucks though. Once you start playing you'll forget about it. Give it about 2 weeks tops for things to be back to normal.

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you've got no right to ask people to chill while they set aside their work, school, or life for this Friday. what's waiting for us is "just" getting kicked, and immediately losing the queue. Did SE pay you to chill people on the forum?

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Originally Posted by FFWinner

Thanks for kicking people out of queue. Thanks for allowing 3rd party add-ons to connect without problems. Thanks for all these fine streamers getting an easy in to the game.

Thanks for delaying the game for that.

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I haven't had any problems at all. So sorry you're dealing with this!

Got down to 2000 on the que, then 2002 error happened again.

Que is now at 3800. Sigh.

Sit in 3 hour queue. Get 2002. 717 people left...

Get back in, "players in queue : 1" bug. Kicked out.

Get back in after a few more 2002 errors. 9k queue.

I haven't been able to get back in game since Phoenix took a dump.

Sighs.

Can't make a character on any Crystal data center worlds. Even Balmung, a world that already has all of my characters. Still don't understand why you're prevented from making one on a server you already have characters on. Either way you're just joining the queue.

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Originally Posted by xxmajexx

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachmen...TMLb3b14df.png

The Problem in one screen. :)

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At least EU doesn't need that third data center /s

Oh gosh that definitely helps to explain why EU servers are still getting hit so bad. I'm on Cerberus and my FC and I are still getting 7,000+ queues by late evening.

You didn't expect it? Well then too bad for you. I had low hopes that this wouldn't happen but I didn't get surprised by it. A lot of people were awaiting for this expansion so Justin deal with it like we all do.

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Originally Posted by Kes13a

can only buy the hamsters if any are available....

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Is this the COVID thing again? Because that get out of jail free ticket can only be exchanged so many times.

Oh I expected queues, something on the order of Shadowbringers launch, but not this persistent nor magnitude. I get that there was a massive influx over the summer - the energy has been amazing during a content lull which gave us some regular login queues of a maximum of about 250 people. However, it is a shame that since the servers went up at 9am, almost 12 hours later EU servers remain at the bottom of the barrel; though I suppose this is reflective of the general data center and server situation as posted by xxmajexx :(

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Originally Posted by lezard21

Is this the COVID thing again? Because that get out of jail free ticket can only be exchanged so many times.

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Semiconductor shortage leading up to hardware shortage meaning they're not getting their servers fast enough.

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Originally Posted by lezard21

Is this the COVID thing again? Because that get out of jail free ticket can only be exchanged so many times.

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Has COVID and the supply cain issues been resolved yet? No?

Then yeah actually they can say it as long as needed, including literally any other big tech company. You can have an opinion, but that doesn't change that it's wrong or completely lacking acknowledgement of current events.

If popular people and people using third party stuff is getting in... that is not fair as it end crash other peoples queus as well..

The worst part of this is that they delayed the game 2 weeks with just a 1 week notice, completely screwing people that had requested time off to play the game, saying that it was for performance issues.

And now that people have less available time to play due to being back at work they are not even capable of logging in due to poor planning and management from a multibillionaire company.

Unacceptable.

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Originally Posted by lezard21

Remember game got delayed 2 weeks and this was the result.

But it's ok cause Yoshi P cried.

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If you had bothered to read the reason it was delayed, it wasn't for server prep. It was to make sure the story was up to quality. Had literally nothing to do with servers.

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Originally Posted by lezard21

The worst part of this is that they delayed the game 2 weeks with just a 1 week notice, completely screwing people that had requested time off to play the game, saying that it was for performance issues.

And now that people have less available time to play due to being back at work they are not even capable of logging in due to poor planning and management from a multibillionaire company.

Unacceptable.

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Is this your first MMO launch?

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Originally Posted by Tsumdere

Is this your first MMO launch?

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This is not a launch. This is an expansion. I've been around for countless MMOs expansions.

A launch you can project but have no idea on the actual amount of players that will play the game.

An expansion you know the amount of people that have been playing the game and will play it + then project an estimated increase.

This could have been easily avoided.

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Originally Posted by FFWinner

Ya just wait 2 weeks when no one can play because Christmas. You won't get spoiled trust me. Also Shadowlands launches which had arguably way more players did just fine. In fact, it did so fine you didn't even notice there was an expansion launch.

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https://screenrant.com/blizzard-fix-...wlands-launch/

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Originally Posted by FFWinner

Ya well its pure incompetence on the devs part.

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My dude i use the xiv launcher and it was as difficult to login as using the normal one. Its not a magical tool that lets you login instantly there is a massive queue they warned about this. People that got in have been the lucky few.

You also lack any knowledge about how servers work. Learn to be patient because we all knew this was going to happen.

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Originally Posted by lezard21

An expansion you know the amount of people that have been playing the game and will play it + then project an estimated increase.

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Except they didn't because the game blew up in July and there was a semiconductor shortage.

BTW FF14 set a new record on steamcharts today, I think it was twice the amount of the Shadowbringers launch. Just saying...

https://i.ibb.co/t2SBtjT/grafik.png

yea ok no, I'm out. Done. At queue 89 / 4000 it disconnects me. For 9 hours I've been trying to get in now. Won't return for the next few days until this stupidity is fixed

I was 12 in Queue. 12. Got 2002 error and now back to 1600 in line. I get it...it's launch/early access weekend. It's still infuriating though.

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Originally Posted by SicariusSeven

I was 12 in Queue. 12. Got 2002 error and now back to 1600 in line. I get it...it's launch/early access weekend. It's still infuriating though.

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Before the 89 now, I was once at position 1. Yes, ONE.

The queue isn't the problem. I'd gladly wait hours to get in. The problem is the 2002 error, which has nothing to do with the queue.

Honest I think they have done a good job thus far on early access launch. The server's haven't crashed (least not the one my group plays on?) and I haven't heard of a quest requiring you to stand in a line to que for it. Sure it could be better but supply shortages and they did speak up about wanting more servers but they don't want to rent servers. Understandable. /shrug

This is by far not the worse EA launch. Sure it'll take some time to taper down the numbers for ques but nothing is on fire.

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Originally Posted by StayTuned

Won't return for the next few days until this stupidity is fixed

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Yeah I have the same philosophy. Can't really help it so there's no point getting upset about it I guess. I'll just play BDO until I can get in :)

But this sort of thing is the reason I wince when people take time off for an MMO launch :(

4 hours in queue vs 2 in game today, then kicked out of queue to have it reset to 9k.

EU servers are cooked and SE doesn't give a hoot.

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Originally Posted by StayTuned

Before the 89 now, I was once at position 1. Yes, ONE.

The queue isn't the problem. I'd gladly wait hours to get in. The problem is the 2002 error, which has nothing to do with the queue.

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What is 2002 again? I know they are different codes but I can't remember off the top of my head what 2002 is.

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Originally Posted by PredatoryCatgirl

Gee, its almost as if there was a completely unprecedented and impossible to predict influx of new players during a time when a global pandemic screwed the supply chain and made a critical component for servers unable to be produced, thereby crippling SE's ability to react to a change that no one could have foreseen. That would be wild if it were true, but its totally not. SE is just incompetent, amirite?

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Your forum name and the tone of this response is a perfect combo, ily

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Originally Posted by Rosekitten

Honest I think they have done a good job thus far on early access launch. The server's haven't crashed (least not the one my group plays on?) and I haven't heard of a quest requiring you to stand in a line to que for it. Sure it could be better but supply shortages and they did speak up about wanting more servers but they don't want to rent servers. Understandable. /shrug

This is by far not the worse EA launch. Sure it'll take some time to taper down the numbers for ques but nothing is on fire.

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Yeah that title still goes to Stormblood. Endwalker is still in sorta early stages. If we can't do duty instances or dungeons. Then we need to start worrying again.

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Originally Posted by SicariusSeven

What is 2002 again? I know they are different codes but I can't remember off the top of my head what 2002 is.

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I think it's an error due to server congestion

"FFXIV’s Error 2002 message pops up if the game’s login server is is dealing with high amounts of players or the player amount in a single login queue for a specific data sails past 17,000 players. You’ll likely come across error code when you’re selecting a character before attempting to log in to Final Fantasy XIV for Endwalker.

Square Enix explains that the measure prevents the server from crashing due to “extreme traffic overloads”, though If you encounter the error the developer suggests you wait a few minutes before trying to log in again. Thankfully, the wait shouldn’t be too hard. Following a surge of popularity earlier this year, Square Enix increased capacity for simultaneous logins and a 30-minute AFK timer to ease server congestion, so players should be coming and going quicker than before."

From a PCGamesn article

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Originally Posted by Rosekitten

Honest I think they have done a good job thus far on early access launch. The server's haven't crashed (least not the one my group plays on?) and I haven't heard of a quest requiring you to stand in a line to que for it. Sure it could be better but supply shortages and they did speak up about wanting more servers but they don't want to rent servers. Understandable. /shrug

This is by far not the worse EA launch. Sure it'll take some time to taper down the numbers for ques but nothing is on fire.

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You obviously didn't read what issues people are facing. Good for you its not crashing, probably on NA. EU is the problem.

More EU servers maybe a third DC or something?

Its not like we are few people in EU.

Same on phoenix since I got dc: seems I get a lobby error 2002 every hour or so to lose all the progress of my queue. And I expect it to be far worse the weekend...

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Originally Posted by Rosekitten

they did speak up about wanting more servers but they don't want to rent servers. Understandable. /shrug

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Oh, they just didn't want to? LOL
That's all? the people who opt not to play because they don't have the time to wait 3 hours to log in will balance it out. Renting servers? "Don't wanna."
This is news to me but I'll be frank, effort put into this game is astounding. I really do love it as art; but money? I don't feel they don't put in as much as they should. They don't even capitalize on their microtransactions the way they probably could either. I'm not talking about cheesy stuff like buying Ultimate items or lvl 90 skips, just NPC outfits and NPC weapons that don't exist for some reason.
I'd like to see a source, regardless. For the comment, I mean.
I'm well aware of the fact that there was a semiconductor shortage, so it's a bit harder for me to get a printer or a microwave, but I'm also not a company that makes millions of dollars. I don't really feel like its possible for any of us to verifiably know whether or not there was something that could be done differently (because we don't work for SE), but if there was a suggestion and they said "we don't want to" then I think that's kind of sucky, no?
Especially considering if a total amateur could have predicted this sort of thing would happen, based on previous launches. WoW was kind of falling apart months and months ago. We all knew this would be the case. It was even starting materialize before the expansion dropped. If truly, nothing could be done; then whatever. But to say that they had an option that probably would have worked and it was just "dont wanna" or "it'd cost money." That's... really sad, and not really a great excuse.
I don't think its the people who made the game who are at fault here, in any case.

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Originally Posted by PredatoryCatgirl

Gee, its almost as if there was a completely unprecedented and impossible to predict influx of new players during a time when a global pandemic screwed the supply chain and made a critical component for servers unable to be produced, thereby crippling SE's ability to react to a change that no one could have foreseen. That would be wild if it were true, but its totally not. SE is just incompetent, amirite?

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So you're saying they aren't watching industry trends and interests of players? I find that hard to believe. This was not only not unprecedented, especially with the consistent loss of players from WoW over the past five years, it was extremely predictable due to the same reason. It was clear that, at some point, there would be a mass exodus away from WoW. And since FFXIV was WoW's coattails in terms of popularity, and that popularity rising fast, it wasn't a mystery where that exodus would lead.

Stop making excuses for them.

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Originally Posted by Imora

Semiconductor shortage leading up to hardware shortage meaning they're not getting their servers fast enough.

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to be honest, the EU Server Infrastructure of FFXIV sucked even before Shadowbringers and Covid. So there is no really excuse therefore^^

Hmm, I see that the salt mines are in business today.