Asmongold's mom passed away.

I don't think Zack/Asmon will see this but my deepest condolences :(

Condolences to Asmon.

I don't think people understand how much his Mom was also his best friend and gamer buddy on top of everything else.

I am hoping the internet can leave him alone and let him heal.. other than well wishes that is.

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Originally Posted by Vahlnir

Yeah, that's probably as close as something like this is going to get officially. It's a nice event meant for reflection over the past year. Answers: Reprise always hits me hard. I use the Rising as a bit of a yearly remembrance of things/people lost and gained, which I'm guessing was what they intended it to be, at least partly, within the scope of the game.

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Last year when they decided to use Answers: Reprise with what happened at 2020 really gives me a chill to be honest...

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Originally Posted by Kolsykol

https://twitter.com/Asmongold/status...15911183892484

'' Earlier this week, my mom passed away.

I'm honestly still in shock, it's hard to imagine that it's even real. I don't know if I'll ever be able to come to terms with it.

She was my best friend and the light of my life.

I'll love you, always and forever. ''

In case people are fans of his/ appreciate the support he has shown FFXIV and people who have been brought over because of him.

He talked A LOT about his mom over the years on Stream and how much she meant to him and how supportive she was.

My grandmother passed away not long ago and my dad had a heart attack a few weeks ago too my own family are getting older and mortality is beginning to make itself known.
So I sympathize a lot with him especially with such a close bond.

RIP :(.

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Ok, but it's FFXIV forum, here.

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Originally Posted by Naoki34

Ok, but it's FFXIV forum, here.

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And asmongold is essentially an FFXIV streamer at this point, what’s your point?

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Originally Posted by Naoki34

Ok, but it's FFXIV forum, here.

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Is this really the time to be negative?

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Originally Posted by Naoki34

Ok, but it's FFXIV forum, here.

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But he plays FFXIV, also get invited to media tour as well...?

Instead of responding to people who don't understand empathy in this thread. I would like to express my sincere condolences to Zack. Those of us who have lost parents empathize with you. It's not easy losing the foundations you have relied on and loved and respected your whole life. RIP to all Moms who have gone before us.

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Originally Posted by Snorky

Instead of responding to people .

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True, last thing I'll say about this that I'll add to the OP too that I've forgot to mention.

The mods on the FFXIV reddit was okay with a thread about it too, and I didn't see people flipping out about it ( granted they probably got downvoted ).
You guys really want to be worse and more toxic than the subreddit?
Really?

The subreddit will even argue that stuff like fanart and cosplay is off-topic ( albeit mostly only stuff they personally don't like ).
If they think this is on-topic then I think it's fair to assume it is on the forums too.

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Originally Posted by Nekaru_Infitima

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ngl, this whole comment is pretty disgusting to me. You do you, I guess.

Reading through this thread now that I've ended work for today, I gotta say I'm very disappointed in a handful of people in this thread. How can you be so cold and cruel to spur your hatred for a twitch persona when his mom past away. This is not the time and place. If you have nothing to say, just zip it.

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Originally Posted by Canadane

I'm sorry to tell you but this is a losing battle. :(

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imagine to pick that hill to die on.

Losing a parent is such a crushing and unique pain. You lose your: mentor, best friend, guardian, and counselor all in one single moment. All the things you wished you had said and done drop on your shoulders with such weight that you stagger around for days in a daze.

Love your parents every day when you see them, tell them how much they mean to you.

I would if I had the chance again.

I dont know why people are getting so mad that condolences are being put here.
It is not insensitive because everyone grieves differently. I for one would have found comfort in a condolence thread after experiencing so many losses. Doesn't mean everyone does for others it would be too much but this is far from being insensitive.
It's not about either making one death more important than another. Death is equally sad. But Asmon gave people joy and in that people will relate. It's not only about condolences but reflecting on our own experiences and just having that calm moment to reflect inward and express their sadness in peace for Asmon.
If you have a problem this is NOT the thread to post in. This news has probably triggered other people's experiences and feelings. Just leave people in peace.

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Originally Posted by Nekaru_Infitima

Don't virtue signal on a forum and make memorials that do nothing but show how 'group sad' you are.

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I'm sorry to tell you but this is a losing battle. :(

I'm not super old, but I still can't believe I would live in a time where posting a condolence or a short memorial for anyone would be considered attention seeking. It's so sad to see people assume the worst in others, whatever "side" you're on.

I feel really bad due to the fact that the first thing Yoshi said to Asmon was about the mother in the interview and wishing all well.

I am not exactly a fan of Asmon but I have witnessed many close friends losing their mothers and hits hard so I really wish him all good and to stay strong.

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Originally Posted by Nekaru_Infitima

You completely misunderstood what I meant, not surprising.

I'm saying you're not sincere, and no one here is, because if he wasn't known you wouldn't give a d**n.

Asmon plays this game, not his mom. If something happened to Asmon, the topics and memorials would make sense, he was a part of the community, just as the person that said FC mates and friends get memorials. But his mom? Give a card, give your condolences, but the memorials are dumb. She did not play this game, she was not part of the community. Making a memorial in a game she did not play is for you, not her.

By making a memorial or topic outside of talking to him, himself. You are literally doing this for attention and virtue signaling. It is fake. It is insincere. It is a sick 'hey I'm sad for him, everyone else be sad for him to show how much we suck up to him as fans on this forum.'

Step back and ask yourself why in the wanting to comfort someone you feel the need to post it on a forum that his mother does not frequent? Wrong course of action to show that you care.

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Again, you don't know me or the reason I do relate to Asmon's mom and all mothers. My sincerity is real! I'm closer to Asmon mom's age than Asmongold's age. I'm a mother who has a daughter who not only just plays ffxiv, but played many other video games together over the years. I was the one who put the controller into her hands at a the tender age of 4. My daughter is now 35 years old. Want me to step back and ask myself why I want to comfort here and now?
Well because some day it will be my time to die and I will be leaving her behind in this world. Sooner rather than later. My only daughter will grieve terribly when I am gone, but she'll have these memories of us playing together. How in game, I wasn't just her mom, but a second mom to many in our FC that I've been leader of for over 5 years. I know his pain and I will be causing that pain for my own daughter in the future. I'm at the age and I think more and more of my own death. So yeah this effects me to hear he lost his mom who he play WoW with over the years. So yeah I can relate a great deal.
You on the other hand are so young to foolishly come on here and post to stir up attention only. Trying to speak for me and others when you are so clueless. Again it makes me feel bad for you and I don't know you personally either. The only thing I know is you have a lot of growing left to do. That's the impression you left behind.

Gatekeeping trauma and how to respond to it is never a good idea.

Condolences, losing a family member is always heart breaking, losing a parent? I'm tearing up just remembering how I felt.

Mine died last year june of 2020. Only immediate family allowed in the hospital room 1 at a time. Though she didnt have covid, the hospital still had heavy restrictions. Losing your mom sucks bad for most people.

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Originally Posted by DragoAskani

Mine died last year june of 2020. Only immediate family allowed in the hospital room 1 at a time. Though she didnt have covid, the hospital still had heavy restrictions. Losing your mom sucks bad for most people.

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I didn't lose my mom but I lost my dad around the same time. He died in July.

I lost my best friend of 18 years two years ago, he committed suicide and well he got me into Final Fantasy series, i used to watch him play FFX alot , so FFX is important to me, he loved ff8 and ff7 too

Losing someone you love is hard, my condolences to you asmongold, Veilfire, DragonAskani and anyone who lost someone very special in their life

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Originally Posted by Nekaru_Infitima

Don't virtue signal on a forum and make memorials that do nothing but show how 'group sad' you are.

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I think that's essentially what it is. It's certainly not a discussion other than I'm sad therefore I'm morally superior -> end of discussion.

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Originally Posted by Payadopa

I think that's essentially what it is. It's certainly not a discussion other than I'm sad therefore I'm morally superior -> end of discussion.

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As opposed to "I'm not sad therefore I'm morally superior"?

Honestly the fact that people come into this thread and openly spit in people's faces for daring to show any kind of sympathy, at the loss of a life no less....I don't understand it. If you genuinely don't care then don't come in here and post? It's the same as turning up to a funeral just to say you don't want to be there and having no sympathy for those involved, you wouldn't do that right? If you don't care then leave the thread.

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Originally Posted by Payadopa

I think that's essentially what it is. It's certainly not a discussion other than I'm sad therefore I'm morally superior -> end of discussion.

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Just because everything you do is purely performative, doesn't mean that other people operate the same way. It will be significantly easier for you to understand all of this if you stop assuming that other people are wired like you are. There's also the fact that most people, even if they genuinely disagreed with the premise of this thread, would have enough good judgement to understand that looking for arguments in such a thread would be in extremely bad taste. When was the last time you saw a mental health professional? I'd honestly be very curious what they'd have to say, given that the other person you keep agreeing with in this thread has a litany of personality disorders.

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Originally Posted by Tamuril88

As opposed to "I'm not sad therefore I'm morally superior"?

Honestly the fact that people come into this thread and openly spit in people's faces for daring to show any kind of sympathy, at the loss of a life no less....I don't understand it. If you genuinely don't care then don't come in here and post? It's the same as turning up to a funeral just to say you don't want to be there and having no sympathy for those involved, you wouldn't do that right? If you don't care then leave the thread.

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Some people just have zero emphaty and respect for other people and or feelings. It's really disgusting behavior and should be ashamed.

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Originally Posted by Sotaris

Some people just have zero emphaty and respect for other people and or feelings. It's really disgusting behavior and should be ashamed.

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I agree at this point it's just trolling. People have tried to explain, myself included that's it not about taking the moral high ground it's just sharing experiences. But they either dont understand or arent reading.

My heart goes out to those of you who posted about recent losses, I remember how acute and raw it still could feel even after some time had passed. Grieving has a weird way of making it feel as if it was last week instead of three years ago. It’s such a crippling kind of pain. A big hug to those here trying to find their way through it.

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Originally Posted by Payadopa

I think that's essentially what it is. It's certainly not a discussion other than I'm sad therefore I'm morally superior -> end of discussion.

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Funfact, it isn't a "discussion" at all. Your complete lack of empathy isn't really open for discussion since we can observe right here and now what a bitter lonely person you must be. Same goes for the one you quoted.

Weird is, we are indeed morally superior even though you paint these terms in a bad light. Showing empathy towards your fellow humans is in most cultures a respected act, maybe not in yours. Thus indeed we are morally superior to you based on basically all societies on this planet. But hey you wanna be edgy and not mainstream so you have to act like a jerk online cause fork the establishment, right? It's nicer to be a nihilistic sack of kuponuts.

This is very sad news... I enjoyed watching his FFXIV streams, and was worried about the situation with his mother.
I hope he'll feel better as soon as possible ;_;

Be strong, Asmon!

Sad news, but who's Asmongold?

I mean... yeah, that is real sad... but why is it here? What does this have to do with Final Fantasy?

I doubt he would like this tragic loss be used to farm forum likes...

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Originally Posted by Raoul9753

I mean... yeah, that is real sad... but why is it here? What does this have to do with Final Fantasy?

I doubt he would like this tragic loss be used to farm forum likes...

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Cause he is basically now also a XIV streamer, got invited to the media tour. Had a interview with Yoshi P. himself. And thus very much a part of this community.

Forum likes don't mean anything and if you put worth into likes and all this crap i advise you to rather spend your time on reddit and not here. Not all people on this planet do stuff just for "likes" though i feel like you can't understand that.

Edit: Not to mention that Asmon also visited Memorials back then when Reckful passed away. He even posted a tweet about it with a R.I.P. so if you really think all the empathy in the world is just cause people want attention then i really feel sad for you, cause you obviously can't.

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Originally Posted by Veilfire

I didn't lose my mom but I lost my dad around the same time. He died in July.

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Aye I lost my father last August. Losing a parent when you are young is rough. They left before they got see the fruit of their labor and see what shape your life will take moving forward.

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Aye I lost my father last August. Losing a parent when you are young is rough. They left before they got see the fruit of their labor and see what shape your life will take moving forward.

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Originally Posted by DragoAskani

Mine died last year june of 2020. Only immediate family allowed in the hospital room 1 at a time. Though she didnt have covid, the hospital still had heavy restrictions. Losing your mom sucks bad for most people.

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I didn't lose my mom but I lost my dad around the same time. He died in July.

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Very sorry for your loss.
My dad got lucky when he had a heart attack and wasn't doing anything dangerous at work and had people around him that called right away.
And he recovered very swiftly.

But it was a scary experience.

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I'm not super old, but I still can't believe I would live in a time where posting a condolence or a short memorial for anyone would be considered attention seeking. It's so sad to see people assume the worst in others, whatever "side" you're on.

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that‘s because they are reflecting their own personality on others. some people are wired in a way that they automatically assume everyone must behave, feel and think the same in certain situations. they think people do it for attention because they themselves lack empathy and can‘t wrap their minds on the fact that people are genuinely touched by the subject.
the first thing that popped to my mind when reading the title was thinking about my parents, who are getting older and older as times seems to pass faster and faster. the thought alone of them not being here in the future is really dreadful and depressing. it just gives you an insight how much pain people must feel in such a situation.

either way i‘m really sorry to hear about asmon‘s loss.

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And asmongold is essentially an FFXIV streamer at this point, what’s your point?

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Asmongold it's a noob in FFXIV. He only started this game during the SE marketing campaign in the summer.

I should also post about the death of each member of the FFXIV streamer family so that will be very helpful.

He may have a big community, but he's not an old FFXIV player.

I don't understand why you would announce the death of his family on this forum which is dedicated to FFXIV and not the fansite of this streamer.

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Originally Posted by Sotaris

Is this really the time to be negative?

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I don't see how this is negative, it doesn't seem to have offended your sensibilities.

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Originally Posted by Naoki34

Asmongold it's a noob in FFXIV. He only started this game during the SE marketing campaign in the summer.

I should also post about the death of each member of the FFXIV streamer family so that will be very helpful.

He may have a big community, but he's not an old FFXIV player.

I don't understand why you would announce the death of his family on this forum which is dedicated to FFXIV and not the fansite of this streamer.

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He's still an FF XIV player and a gamer. I don't see an issue with showing a little support, even if it might just be for show for some. He has been known to browse forums. Chances are someone pointed this thread out to him with his following being so big, though he might have been a bit flabbergasted by some of what he saw. He posted a video yesterday detailing the events and his current state of mind, and he thanked everyone for their support. It's heartbreaking to say the least. Anyone who's lost someone dear to them knows exactly what he's feeling. Either way, this thread either served its purpose or wasn't seen at all, but I feel that it's the thought that counts. I'm not even a follower but I sympathize greatly.

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Asmongold it's a noob in FFXIV. He only started this game during the SE marketing campaign in the summer.

I should also post about the death of each member of the FFXIV streamer family so that will be very helpful.

He may have a big community, but he's not an old FFXIV player.

I don't understand why you would announce the death of his family on this forum which is dedicated to FFXIV and not the fansite of this streamer.

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This had already fallen off the first page, and yet you just had to bump it back to the top to argue about something so inane, didn't you?

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Originally Posted by Naoki34

Asmongold it's a noob in FFXIV. He only started this game during the SE marketing campaign in the summer.

I should also post about the death of each member of the FFXIV streamer family so that will be very helpful.

He may have a big community, but he's not an old FFXIV player.

I don't understand why you would announce the death of his family on this forum which is dedicated to FFXIV and not the fansite of this streamer.

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You must be fun at parties.

Also, this says a lot about you as a human being. Grow up dude.

Everytime I read about somebody's parent passing away---friend or stranger alike---always struck terror in me that reminds how limited my time with my mother is. Tried my best to cherish these limited time as much as possible, but everytime this reminder came back, my limbs loses its strength and feels cold. I'm scared to see the day I no longer feel the warmth in her arms. So badly. Every news about her being tired and stuffs alone is enough to make me worry excessively. I can't suppress this 'crybaby' in me, that's just how much she meant to me. Logically I know very well that it will happen inevitably, but how I can't stop the trembling in me. I can never be ready for that... is what I'd say.

I'm sorry to hear your loss, Asmongold. I really do.

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Originally Posted by Naoki34

I should also post about the death of each member of the FFXIV streamer family so that will be very helpful.

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Do it then, for them. If that's how you feel you should do.