the more the merrier plus u arent married to a mmorpg , u can play all them or one this month another next ....
Seeing hate toward "refugees from other MMOs?"
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06-19-2021, 11:01 AMWarlyx
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06-19-2021, 01:42 PMLittleImpAt triple legend is someone who has completed all three Ultimates.Quote:
Originally Posted by Neoyoshi
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06-19-2021, 01:46 PMLisSquidBeing an mmo enjoyer in the year 2021 is likeQuote:
Originally Posted by Warlyx
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06-19-2021, 03:18 PMShurrikhanAs in the choices all look mostly the same?...Quote:
Originally Posted by LisSquid
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06-19-2021, 03:24 PMSturmChurroYeah, and I feel like they wouldn't be pancakes either. :pQuote:
Originally Posted by Shurrikhan
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06-19-2021, 03:30 PMShurrikhanIn the given analogy, the expression seems relatable, at least.Quote:
Originally Posted by SturmChurro
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06-20-2021, 01:31 AMPuremallace
So I am not sure how simple this needs to be. If I see an FF14 player being rude to a new sprout in this MMO for no other reason then they are from WoW then that person is getting reported by me for harassment and the GM's can sort it out.
We have a great community here and it is going to stay that way. -
06-20-2021, 02:32 AMTheodric
I can only bring myself to commit to one MMO at a time, personally. I dabble in a bit of everything when I play one and don't like stretching myself thin across multiple games. It does mean that there's dry patches where there's no content updates for a while but between single player games, other hobbies and life in general I'm rarely in a position where I have nothing to do.
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06-20-2021, 03:55 AMImora
I still play wow. I'm only a lowly heroic raider, so nothing to write home about, but my guild has been talking about moving here if 9.1 sucks. Unfortunately, they're Australian and i can't do a JP server from EU.
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06-20-2021, 04:43 AMPuremallace
Well this seems interesting. I guess the wave theory is correct. Blizzard sending out surveys randomly asking if you are going to leave for multiple other MMO's and they specifically list Endwalker.
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06-20-2021, 04:50 AMImoraInteresting. I haven't gotten an email, but I also have a 6 month sub.Quote:
Originally Posted by Puremallace
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06-20-2021, 05:06 AMVahlnirThey were sending them out about a week after I quit and unsubbed completely (so roughly...2-3 weeks after launch?), and they weren't small 2 minute surveys either. Took me about 10 minutes to fill mine out. They really wanted to know what people enjoyed and hated. Clearly they ignored these surveys and stuck to their current course, but I guess they are starting to regret that. Again. lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Puremallace
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06-20-2021, 05:09 AMShurrikhanBecause in the wake of that information, releasing a 10-boss raid, a mega-dungeon, new progression paths, further Covenant campaigns, new legendary effects, unifying/conveniencing systems for bonus difficulty dungeon runs to reduce conflicts/toxicity, PvE retuning, PvP retuning and reworks, and a new zone 9 days from now suddenly became a bad idea?Quote:
Originally Posted by Vahlnir
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06-20-2021, 05:11 AMVahlnirWe will see how all of that actually pans out. They tend to shoot themselves in the foot pretty regularly. There's gotta be something in there that is spiteful game design, or will be. Always is. If they detect fun, it's gone. Personally, they burned me for the last time back at launch. I've kept an eye on things but I'm still largely unimpressed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shurrikhan
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06-20-2021, 07:03 AMFyrebrand
I just passed a character out in Coerthas called "Wow Subscriber." I hope they're having fun here! :p
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06-20-2021, 07:05 AMNeoyoshiHaha. xDQuote:
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It's like the days of Everquest, -when WoW came out, there were names like that but referencing Everquest instead. -
06-20-2021, 09:54 AMUrsa_Vonfiebryd
I've been here since Heavensward and I've really only seen a surge towards the end of Shadowbringers for this kind of sentiment. And it's mostly people trying to point fingers at players coming over that don't know 5+ year old mechanics. Which can literally be any new player. We should be glad that there's a whole new crop of players that are not beholden to established FF14 stereotypes. Does it make old content interesting? Yes.
Embrace it, for it is the future. #failingcrystaltowermechs2021 -
06-20-2021, 12:01 PMSturmChurroDo they at least pay you for the 10 minute survey? :pQuote:
Originally Posted by Vahlnir
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06-20-2021, 12:14 PMlinayarI think you have to pay them for the game and/or subscription to get a chance of getting a survey.Quote:
Originally Posted by SturmChurro
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06-20-2021, 12:37 PMVahlnirI wish, but no. lolQuote:
Originally Posted by SturmChurro
My sub hadn't lapsed yet at the time so this is probably true, though they probably had the data to see that I had indeed unsubbed.Quote:
Originally Posted by linayar
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06-20-2021, 01:00 PMKyuuenAs an ex-WoW vet, I'm absolutely tickled to see them showing blatant concern over this, not that I would ever go back at this point. At the same time I'm fairly certain that this will simply mean they'll try to cook up some BS content to release at the same time as Endwalker as they typically do to combat competition.Quote:
Originally Posted by Puremallace
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06-20-2021, 01:38 PMshiroxkatsuyaIs it a good amount of content? Sure. It is also way late. Still bogged down by the terrible covenant system along with a myriad of other issues. Add Blizzards woefully terrible communication skills, and all that equals me not exactly jumping for joy about 9.1. The only positive thing i will say is at least it is not August like some had rumoured. Long enough to undoubtedly do another stupid six month promo though.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shurrikhan
On topic: I don’t really consider myself a “WoW refugee” because i have played both games for years, but i will say i have not seen really any issues aside from social media
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06-20-2021, 02:49 PMKrokov
What hate? people just play and help the other person usually from what I've seen even if they are from WoW.
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06-20-2021, 03:27 PMThaciscokiddI'm in this boat. Current Long time WoW and FF14 fan. I use Both games to keep myself from super burnout. As a guild officer in my WoW guild I advocate playing another game in between patches wether it be 14, PSO2, ESO, etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by shiroxkatsuya
This whole chapter of the WoW vs 14 fight might get your dishearten WoW player, but the whole community vs community might just scare away the more sensible FF14/WoW fan or new fans all together. Most WoW/FF14 players are ultra cool, I did a Blood Furnace with players with FF14 names and then had the privilege of meeting them inside of FF14 afterwards. It sucks that we have to be at "war" and not coming together as MMO players in general. -
06-20-2021, 04:01 PMGrizzlyTankProbably diablo 4 beta, it's the only big thing they got going now to advertise.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kyuuen
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06-20-2021, 04:43 PMAlyaNimfa
I don't know about hating them... but I don't like that game being brought up every 5 minutes. I play this game, I don't play that one. We are both here playing this game, lets not talk about it.
Generally, I just ignore their attempts at talking about it and either just try to move the conversation to something else, or move on entirely. I love that they have found this game and are enjoying it, but I just simply do not care about their old game. >.<' -
06-21-2021, 03:05 AMvan_arn“When should we release 9.2”Quote:
Originally Posted by Puremallace
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06-21-2021, 03:21 AMVahlnirlolQuote:
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Yeah, that's most likely the thought process behind the survey. -
06-21-2021, 05:31 AMImoraHonestly, the only thing I'm interested in there is the raid.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shurrikhan
IDGAF about the dungeon, or the legendary grind, or the new zone. I played all of it on PTR and wasn't impressed.
I'll be here on non raid days. Trying to finish my MSQ and leveling alt jobs. -
06-21-2021, 07:38 AMShurrikhanNice. I mean, maybe having to double-sub to have a fresh, worthwhile, or otherwise enjoyable raid experience and fun downtime activities isn't ideal, but if you're finding your best way to milk each... awesome.Quote:
Originally Posted by Imora
I'm not a huge fan of WoW raids, especially beyond 10-to-15-manning (M+ junkie, instead, because I like the increased individual responsibility and minutia involved there), but here's hoping Sanctum will have some cool fights. -
06-25-2021, 10:47 PMSannaR
Back in the day when I still played FFXI we'd occasionally get people logging into the game who also played WoW who would crap on XI in shout chat. They would also do so on the XI forums. You'd also get WoW players who would actually be those players that complain about everything while in XI and not understand some things the XI community did as in player etiquette ect. A lot of people moved from XI to XIV and some still play both. Even back in 2.0 on some servers you'd get WoW players in dungeons and take offense at people giving advice on how to play certain rolls like tank mostly due to how they work differently here than in WoW. There was for a time a part of the WoW community who would go down the whole oh well FFXI is just trying to copy WoW line of thought even though XI was out two years before WoW started.
Obviously some things are different between XIV and WoW and not everyone who plays XIV played or plays XI. But just like loldrg and calling Lalafells potatoes are persistent in XIV the "ugh WoW players are the worst" mentality comes from years of it being a thing from XI. So, it could be seen as an old feud between two families where it's been going on for so long the newer people brought in don't understand it. -
06-26-2021, 03:05 AMElciaDeiLinus
Guess I'm a WoW refugee (when I first tried the game in 2015 I didn't play long- I truly came over parttime late in Stormblood).
I die a lot without the DBM warnings and all the mods that tell me where to stand so I don't really have to think, especially mechanics that I'm less clear on or things with boss telegraphs rather than ground ones. In WoW, I would always watch a video before I do a dungeon so I could memorize the mechanics, since it's expected that you know every piece of content inside and out before it releases... but I was enjoying FFXIV story and really don't want to tarnish my first experience with each dungeon by doing that.
Really pleased to find that if I fail a mechanic, there's no instant quit, not raging, no telling people to go kill themselves, no party disbanding blow ups. Since I started FFXIV- I have finished 100% of the duty finder activities, and in almost all of them, with the exact same people I started with, even in groups with some wipes. I was nervous at first going into new content without knowing it inside and out, thinking I'd probably get kicked like I would in WoW- yet I've been kicked 0 times, and it's insane, absolutely abnormal in MMOs. In turn, when I know a fight now, and someone else fails, it makes me want to help them.
I'm sure there's gonna be some who are wary of WoW players- as a WoW player myself since Vanilla, I am far more worried about wow refugees BECAUSE I know a lot of them and how they behave, so I really hope that those who come over abandon the way they treat people on WoW. -
06-26-2021, 03:17 AMY2K21I got one about OSRS one time -- I think it basically varies around the popular games for the time in that genre.Quote:
Originally Posted by Puremallace
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06-26-2021, 10:55 AMkaynide
Way late to the party, but @OP it just boils down to some Karens who get upset that their little oasis isn’t theirs any more.
The same attitude where “Your kid can’t practice piano, MY KID is the piano player!” Or “how dare you buy a Tesla! I bought one first and now you’re just trying to take away spotlight!”
As with any crazy animal encountered in the wild, the best policy is to back away slowly. And wash your hands. Maybe spray it with water. -
06-26-2021, 12:09 PMVahlnirTypically a person wants to make themselves look bigger than they are and make a lot of noise. Technically, they are doing these things. :pQuote:
Originally Posted by kaynide
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06-26-2021, 12:21 PMVirusOnline:|Quote:
Originally Posted by kaynide
>:|
I am part crazy animal, I'll have you know.
On a more serious note OP, keep playing. People always want a boogeyman.
What's probably more on the mind of those spewing such nonsense is the culture clash, the fear of change, and rumors of WoW's toxicity (I mean let's be honest tho lol, those mythic dungeons can get spicey).