Losing loot when INV is full.

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Originally Posted by Onidemon

Bags, drag and drop, new UI and faster server system which the new UI is designed for.... i'd say it will make a HUGE difference when it comes to managing your inventory and when using the UI overall too.

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new ui and faster selling times doesnt change the system as it is though

that has NOTHING to do with inventory management

and since when does drag and drop become faster then "click to sell" which we have now?
guess what, IT DOESNT

you guys are imaghining things that are not there or that have nothing to do with the topic at hand

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Originally Posted by TheVedis

you will still have to manage your inventory though

it wont change much at all if anything

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Originally Posted by Elexia

As am I, I discard food ingredients as I'm not a cook, I discard ores I no longer need to skill up and so on. It saves me a ton of space lol. I guarantee most people are full on random crafting/gathering materials and not gear because there's no gear swap in this game during battle so unless you know you'll be on a mage job which actually can benefit from gear swap, very unlikely to be maxed out in inv space with a lot of useful stuff.

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Well I have lvl 50 WHM BLM WAR PLD BOT & MIN

My 530 inventory spaces are split rather evenly between Gear, Gathered items, and Materia...

I really have no problem with over abundance and I don't feel burdened by having to occasionally throw away or npc items but like I am looking forward to 6 different Bags.

As for the OP concern I have never mistakenly lost an item in my loot list that I wanted for the fact that i have inventory macro'd to Y and when i methodically check my loot by pressing why then tab twice to loot list qo in that in the process I see what I have in my inventory, bazaar and loot.

It's as easy as it gets. Three clicks and you're there.

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Originally Posted by Onidemon

Casuals is what made Blizzard roll in cash and laugh at the competition. While S-E's hardcore masochist MMO called XI, made them want to create a new MMO with the goal of attracting these flakes....

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Roll in the cash for what's been a short period of time (minus the 4~6 million goldsellers from China), minus the fact that plenty of other MMORPGs have gotten far more subscribers, and minus the fact that just because all of your sister's friends and your sister herself love Justine Beaver doesn't mean she can sing.

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Originally Posted by Matsume

Well I have lvl 50 WHM BLM WAR PLD BOT & MIN

My 530 inventory spaces are split rather evenly between Gear, Gathered items, and Materia...

I really have no problem with over abundance and I don't feel burdened by having to occasionally throw away or npc items but like I am looking forward to 6 different Bags.

As for the OP concern I have never mistakenly lost an item in my loot list that I wanted for the fact that i have inventory macro'd to Y and when i methodically check my loot by pressing why then tab twice to loot list qo in that in the process I see what I have in my inventory, bazaar and loot.

It's as easy as it gets. Three clicks and you're there.

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i have everything at 50

i craft all 8 crafts still

and i gather a ton

i also do tons of leves

anything for achievments basicaly

and i NEVER NEVER NEVER have inventory issues either

and even if i did, i ALWAYS drop stuff off when i get back from any farming trip, or vendor after etc etc, so my inventory is always managable

its really not that hard to do this, and i dont see why people cant do it also

if you dont have time to do the smallest tasks, how do you have time to even play the game at all?

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Originally Posted by TheVedis

new ui and faster selling times doesnt change the system as it is though

that has NOTHING to do with inventory management

and since when does drag and drop become faster then "click to sell" which we have now?
guess what, IT DOESNT

you guys are imaghining things that are not there or that have nothing to do with the topic at hand

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Try click and sell, go to WOW or other mmos that use drag and drop and then let's have that conv again. If it's not faster then you are doing it wrong.

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Originally Posted by TheVedis

i have everything at 50

i craft all 8 crafts still

and i gather a ton

i also do tons of leves

anything for achievments basicaly

and i NEVER NEVER NEVER have inventory issues either

and even if i did, i ALWAYS drop stuff off when i get back from any farming trip, or vendor after etc etc, so my inventory is always managable

its really not that hard to do this, and i dont see why people cant do it also

if you dont have time to do the smallest tasks, how do you have time to even play the game at all?

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And I can witness to this. I know Thevs well enough.

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Originally Posted by Dragon

And I can witness to this. I know Thevs well enough.

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you do? i see a character i dont interact with attached to your forum name here :P

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Originally Posted by TheVedis

you do? i see a character i dont interact with attached to your forum name here :P

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Well fine, forget what I said! *shifts my nose up and walks away*

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Originally Posted by Onidemon

Try click and sell, go to WOW or other mmos that use drag and drop and then let's have that conv again. If it's not faster then you are doing it wrong.

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i dont know, ive played these other mmos, and its not much faster then what i do here

but then again as i said, i never let my inventory get out of control, i have my routing and it gets checked every time i get back from a trip

and other games also have this nifty sell all feature, which is the only way things really get faster(not counting the extra complaints from selling stuff by accident through that) but thats another issue meant for a buyback discussion, which we are gtting anyway so its a moot point

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Originally Posted by Dragon

Well fine, forget what I said! *shifts my nose up and walks away*

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i know who you probly are, but i go strictly off what your info says under your name here :P

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Originally Posted by TheVedis

i know who you probly are, but i go strictly off what your info says under your name here :P

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.............

Next time I see that you're on, I'mma slap you.

Slap successful.

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Originally Posted by TheVedis

i have everything at 50

i craft all 8 crafts still

and i gather a ton

i also do tons of leves

anything for achievments basicaly

and i NEVER NEVER NEVER have inventory issues either

and even if i did, i ALWAYS drop stuff off when i get back from any farming trip, or vendor after etc etc, so my inventory is always managable

its really not that hard to do this, and i dont see why people cant do it also

if you dont have time to do the smallest tasks, how do you have time to even play the game at all?

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Cool story bro,

sounds like we agree

was that a rhetorical question or directed at me?

I drop on a case by case basis.

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Originally Posted by Matsume

Cool story bro,

sounds like we agree

except about hating the game. I love it, don't know why those reasons have you hating so much...

was that a rhetorical question or directed at me?

I drop on a case by case basis.

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wait, i hate the game? what post are you reading lol

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Originally Posted by Matsume

was that a rhetorical question or directed at me?

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I think it was directed at the OP and those that can't spare 5 minutes to clear inv space so that they don't drop the good shit.

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Originally Posted by TheVedis

wait, i hate the game? what post are you reading lol

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sorry, i misread "have everything at 50" for "hate everything at 50" my mistake. You're spot on though...That's why i seemed so confused @.@

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Originally Posted by Matsume

sorry, i misread "have everything at 50" for "hate everything at 50" my mistake. You're spot on though...That's why i seemed so confused @.@

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i was more just adding onto what you said, wasnt arguing it, i tend to do that alot lol

Games in general are an exercise in pushing against limits and boundaries. Players complaining about this need to understand this. The bag will always be limited in some way and those having problems with this will have problems no matter the specific limit.
Just sort your inventory before raids it take 3 minutes.

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Originally Posted by TheVedis

i was more just adding onto what you said, wasnt arguing it, i tend to do that alot lol

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im glad we agree to agree :)

I kinda want an add-on to have all classes/job on 50 in one night... simpler / faster better right?

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Originally Posted by Myrhn

I kinda want an add-on to have all classes/job on 50 in one night... simpler / faster better right?

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SE, for primal battles, please implement an I win button. When this button is depressed, the battle is over and I win. This will make battle easier, and more intuitive. It will also cover for me when I forget what the hell I am doing.

Thank you.

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Originally Posted by Molly_Millions

SE, for primal battles, please implement an I win button. When this button is depressed, the battle is over and I win. This will make battle easier, and more intuitive. It will also cover for me when I forget what the hell I am doing.

Thank you.

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Don't forget for that battle to press the weapon i want button, you don't want to have dark matter drop on your loot list because of inventory full

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Originally Posted by Molly_Millions

SE, for primal battles, please implement an I win button. When this button is depressed, the battle is over and I win. This will make battle easier, and more intuitive. It will also cover for me when I forget what the hell I am doing.

Thank you.

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Right there, under the JP button

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...SecureMenu.jpg

Whether or not this is his or her fault there should be a log of some sort that this incident did occur and he should be able to call a GM if something like this should occur with fixes to the issue not just "Sorry to bad better luck next time, there is nothing we can do about this issue." That is part of customer service in games now doing anything else is just being lazy on Squares and yes it may be the customers fault for not keeping track of his or her inventory but you should always except something like this from the general population.

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Originally Posted by Hohenheim

Whether or not this is his or her fault there should be a log of some sort that this incident did occur and he should be able to call a GM if something like this should occur with fixes to the issue not just "Sorry to bad better luck next time, there is nothing we can do about this issue." That is part of customer service in games now doing anything else is just being lazy on Squares and yes it may be the customers fault for not keeping track of his or her inventory but you should always except something like this from the general population.

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I think there is allready a system telling you, if inventory is full the game tell you that the item fall to the loot list and there you can arrange your inventory so you can keep the item.

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Originally Posted by Hohenheim

Whether or not this is his or her fault there should be a log of some sort that this incident did occur and he should be able to call a GM if something like this should occur with fixes to the issue not just "Sorry to bad better luck next time, there is nothing we can do about this issue." That is part of customer service in games now doing anything else is just being lazy on Squares and yes it may be the customers fault for not keeping track of his or her inventory but you should always except something like this from the general population.

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one again, its not SEs job to make sure your inventory has space at all times, that is YOUR job

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Originally Posted by Skies

Err- Just to point out, originally you didn't have your loot list forcibly thrown into inventory and/or discarded when you left a dungeon. However, with the advent of CC and AV there was a bug that arose with certain items simply straight out vanishing out of the loot list when you left, and this is the only fix they have.

Supposedly, 2.0 will not suffer from this retartedness.

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What.

For as long as I can remember, your loot list goes straight to your inventory when zoning out of dungeons. There's a system message before going into every one that tells you so. It's so Player A, who didn't participate in the raid, can't get an item he didn't work for.

This is the most pointless discussion I've seen since forever. This isn't a problem. When it is, it's the player's fault. Do you want a warning when you're about to die ingame, too?

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Originally Posted by Answa

Do you want a warning when you're about to die ingame, too?

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I would actually, but only if it's audible and the whole party can hear it. Something like: "Red Wizard... er, White Mage is about to die!" Oh and "Molly shot the food."

I've never had this issue lol, but there are people out there who have and they aare the ones that need these systems in place.

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Originally Posted by Hohenheim

I've never had this issue lol, but there are people out there who have and they aare the ones that need these systems in place.

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Honestly, I think those people need to lose more primal weapons etc. so they realize how stupid it is to go to a dungeon or primal battle with a full inventory. we don't need dev time wasted on this.

200 inventory slots full?

Strong fail.

Trolling is strong on these forums lately, I guess it's about time for a patch huh ?

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Originally Posted by Jinko

Trolling is strong on these forums lately, I guess it's about time for a patch huh ?

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This always happens for about a month before and after every patch...which is to say always.

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Originally Posted by Onidemon

That's not the point. Shit happens, sometimes you forget, sometimes you don't realize you are full. Every other MMO cie out there thought of this problem and came up with a solution, besides S-E and that is probably cuz they employ pple that think like you.

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Do you need burped too? SE has made this pretty E-tard proof, but I guess not enough. There is a warning about this at the start of the dungeon, anything not in your inventory will be discarded upon exiting the dungeon.

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Originally Posted by Onidemon

Can a rep comment on this and tell us if they are going to fix this soon?

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I hope that "Rare" Moko Grass was worth it. As if 200 slots plus 2 retainers isn't enough space already. How about learn from your mistake?

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Originally Posted by Onidemon

If your inventory is full and you just get a drop from a dungeon, once you leave and you didn't make room the item will be lost. Can S-E fix this please? Other mmos will either wait till your inventory has space and then it will be added to it automatically. Or it is sent to you by mail, which i know can't be done here since we don't have a mail system.

Can a rep comment on this and tell us if they are going to fix this soon?

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Why? Its ur responsiblity to make sure you have room. It is not any1s fault but your own. No one needs to respond to something you can manage on your own if you cant well thats just too bad deal with it!!

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Originally Posted by TheVedis

you will still have to manage your inventory though

it wont change much at all if anything

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My experience as a pathological inventory sorter, there is never enough space. I say this because when you get more space, you use it and fill it up, thus you need more. Having more space makes you open to the habit of collecting more items so you adjust and fill up the new space.

Best solution, like practically everyone is saying in this thread, is to sort your inventory before you go to the event/instance.

There is a yes/no for entering instances. Check your inventory before clicking the instance access prompt or click no and dump your inventory then reclick it. If there is no instance and you are walking into the area, sort your inventory before you tele out to the area. Sell your unwanted drops at nearest camp or shout to ls members that you have x loot and want to sell or drop it.

I keep about 50 slots open at all times but I also consider inventory sorting to be an enjoyable part of the game play. [see siggy]

If retainers had more space, it might free up a little bit of the issue even after we get our 2.0 bags. I know they don't want rmt to take advantage of it but right now, there are already a bazillion keyboard-smash-named rmt taking advantage of the retainers at the current level of space they hold.

Inventory space is a big issue for me. unlike other mmo's that are usually One Job per Character. i have to keep a gear set for all 7 Classes not including Accessory sets there's about 100 slots gone. then there's not being able to Sort stuff by type and the delay it takes to manage a retainer is so dame long about 5 seconds tops to transfer on a good day 10 or more on a bad one.

when you had the Mog House/Job Changer you didn't have to worry about hauling 7 sets of gear around. you changed your job and swapped to appropriate gear on the spot.

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Originally Posted by Valmonte

Inventory space is a big issue for me. unlike other mmo's that are usually One Job per Character. i have to keep a gear set for all 7 Classes not including Accessory sets there's about 100 slots gone. then there's not being able to Sort stuff by type and the delay it takes to manage a retainer is so dame long about 5 seconds tops to transfer on a good day 10 or more on a bad one.

when you had the Mog House/Job Changer you didn't have to worry about hauling 7 sets of gear around. you changed your job and swapped to appropriate gear on the spot.

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while some of your numbers are exagerated for sure(5-10 seconds? takes more like 2-3)

the issue at hand isnt inventory space, but peoples failure to feel its their job to manage it

they feel like the game should vendor stuff for them, the game should know what they want and dont want and do what they want to it without having to actualy do the work to do it themselves

its not even an issue of time constraints, but pure laziness for the sake of being lazy and blaming it on lack of convenience

thats why they are asking for add ons to do all that i mentioned above

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Originally Posted by TheVedis

while some of your numbers are exagerated for sure(5-10 seconds? takes more like 2-3)

the issue at hand isnt inventory space, but peoples failure to feel its their job to manage it

they feel like the game should vendor stuff for them, the game should know what they want and dont want and do what they want to it without having to actualy do the work to do it themselves

its not even an issue of time constraints, but pure laziness for the sake of being lazy and blaming it on lack of convenience

thats why they are asking for add ons to do all that i mentioned above

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don't Assume to know how long it takes ME to sell and manage MY stuff. it takes ME 5 seconds on a good Day to complete one Transaction, also don't assume that i cant/dont want to manage my stuff.

truth is i have no problem with Managing my gear, I do have a problem with a system thats Working against me. whatever the case may be the current system is in dire need of reform.

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Originally Posted by Valmonte

don't Assume to know how long it takes ME to sell and manage MY stuff. it takes ME 5 seconds on a good Day to complete one Transaction, also don't assume that i cant/dont want to manage my stuff.

truth is i have no problem with Managing my gear, I do have a problem with a system thats Working against me. whatever the case may be the current system is in dire need of reform.

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Yes, it can take a long time to exchange an item with vendor (I've seen it take up to 5 seconds, and lag can be horrible some days).
Yes, it can take a long time to find your gear on your retainers and transfer them over.

However,

Still not a valid reason why one can't keep 5 slots empty before going in to a raid. (Unless, maybe, they are that one super adventurer that toggles between 7 jobs and 14 sets of gear and a dozen foods and potions on a single raid. Are you? Because.. because.. only Hildibrand is that super!)

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