A few complaints about the NieR Raid rewards on Part 3

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Originally Posted by NanaWiloh

I think people complaining were expecting a mount being that the raid is a cross over. Yo kai, FF15 and MH crossovers gave mounts, cant really fault people for expecting the Neir raid being a crossover to follow suit. As for the glam/gender lock thing well thats been a issue for long time so no surprise on that one. Though I feel everyone should hold off some and see what we get as reward for restoring komra..

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The crystal tower could be called a cross over with ff3 and storm bloods was straight up a retelling of tactics with some 12 splashed in for flavor. Crossovers have never been a guarantee for a mount so it odd that suddenly this one not having one is such an issue

I wouldn't quite call it a retelling of tactics, a lot of things were different especially the ending. Definitely heavily tactics inspired though.

As for rewards, yeah I don't know why people would expect more than the usual for alliance raids. Sure we got something extra with the 2B coffer in the first raid, but the second raid had nothing out of the ordinary. This isn't a regular crossover event it's a series of alliance raids first and foremost.

All I wanted was a pod mount; at least I got a minion.

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Originally Posted by Hasrat

Dragon Quest, FF13, FF11, GARO... mounts are by no means guaranteed for crossover events.

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Never said they were as I only listed ones that did give a mount.

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Originally Posted by Fourbestintoner

Everyone shitting on the fending and maiming sets, but as someone that loathe cosplaying as story characters I vastly prefer them, the fending legs and boots are easily the best pieces of the raid.

Never ever, the only thing 95% of us actually wanted.
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That sword would've been nice to have.

The rewards could have been slightly better in my opinion but overall I don't think they were too bad. I don't care for the fending set though, so I'm going to focus my efforts on obtaining the aiming one. I actually really, really like that set. Will be going in on my BRD over the coming weeks until I get what I want/need.

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Originally Posted by Packetdancer

You are not the first to reference the Solomon Grundy line in response to my usual Plea for Pants. I even posted the YouTube clip myself at one point. ;)

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This is what I'm constantly saying when I try to glam my WHM and other healers... "All I want is a simple pair of pants!"

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Originally Posted by Packetdancer

SECRET COW FIGHT! SECRET COW FIGHT!

(...possibly I've been in Delubrum savage too much in recent weeks.)

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Personally I was thinking Emil.... I wouldn't call the 1 on 1 vs cow god to be "secret".

Couple complaints I have with the Nier Raid series (like most other collaborations so far).

1) No 9S outfit (and gender locked)
2) Fending gear was utter trash in part I, II, and III (WHAT THE ACTUAL SQUEENIX)
3) YoshiP thought it was a brilliant idea to make the hairstyles in the raid sellable (which is basically the fastest track to RMT gil prices skyrocketing, instead of making it untradeable (like all the other hairstyles in many other places)
4) Yoko Taro copped out with the outfits (just like Capcom did with the Monster hunter World collaboration). Instead of giving us 9S outfits, they gave us the "possible" closest, but only for males. Capcom couldn't even give us that with the Rathalos gear (which would've been better than the garbage we got in there).

I seriously hope squeenix reconsiders any further collaboration. For some reason, they can't seem to TRY and make those available to BOTH GENDERS PROPERLY and make them the ACTUAL outfits (instead of coming up with some bullsh- excuse of "MUH LORE", which has always been the biggest excuse (considering how they tear the lore apart whenever possible). Meanwhile, Monster hunter world was given THE FULL DRACHEN DRG ARMOR AND GAE BOLG).

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Originally Posted by NanaWiloh

Never said they were as I only listed ones that did give a mount.

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You kinda did say exactly that.

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Originally Posted by NanaWiloh

I think people complaining were expecting a mount being that the raid is a cross over.

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Originally Posted by Elkanah

Couple complaints I have with the Nier Raid series (like most other collaborations so far).

1) No 9S outfit (and gender locked)
2) Fending gear was utter trash in part I, II, and III (WHAT THE ACTUAL SQUEENIX)
3) YoshiP thought it was a brilliant idea to make the hairstyles in the raid sellable (which is basically the fastest track to RMT gil prices skyrocketing, instead of making it untradeable (like all the other hairstyles in many other places)
4) Yoko Taro copped out with the outfits (just like Capcom did with the Monster hunter World collaboration). Instead of giving us 9S outfits, they gave us the "possible" closest, but only for males. Capcom couldn't even give us that with the Rathalos gear (which would've been better than the garbage we got in there).

I seriously hope squeenix reconsiders any further collaboration. For some reason, they can't seem to TRY and make those available to BOTH GENDERS PROPERLY and make them the ACTUAL outfits (instead of coming up with some bullsh- excuse of "MUH LORE", which has always been the biggest excuse (considering how they tear the lore apart whenever possible). Meanwhile, Monster hunter world was given THE FULL DRACHEN DRG ARMOR AND GAE BOLG).

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For the fending gear do you mean stats or look? I thought the first two fending sets were fien, but the third one was kind of too similar to the puppet's bunker sets IMO.

As for the hair prices, no it's not going to lead to RMT madness. The pricess have been plumetting on these hairstyles. It's not like RG where it's a rare drop, because they ALWAYS drop supply is outpacing demand leading to lower and lower prices, a trend that will continue as long as people are actively running this raid.

I'm also disappointed that we don't get 9S's outfit.

Give me my scanner shorts proper, please!

I was really looking towards getting a Flight Unit mount. I think it's kind of sad that the 9S attire never got put out there either given the hairstyle exists for both 2B and 9S.

I do agree with some we got quite a bit of stuff out of this place - more than the usual. I think that at the very least, the Virtuous Contract, the Flight Unit and the 9S attire should be a reward from the weekly quests for the dwarven village that needs to be repaired.

Hopefully they are still considering it. But I won't hold my breath.

The tale was absolutely fantastic, the music was phenomenal, the battles fun and the environments very true to the Nier universe. However, there were three specific rewards I was eagerly looking forward to and got none--

I wanted this mount so freaking bad-- was even ready to pay for it on the Mog Station to show my support for the whole storyline

https://store.playstation.com/store/...00&w=720&h=720

I wanted this armour so freaking bad...

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I wanted weapons like the one conceptualized here so freaking bad...originally posted by Catlyn


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Why would they add virtuous contract when at most 3 class classes would use it?! People are already complaining about locked gear

We've always knew making Nier a raid was a mistake, should have been another event like garo, giving weapons, armors and mounts.

Where the heck is that image from, looks like an ambitious reward list that was actually scrapped

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Originally Posted by Ramesses

I wanted weapons like the one conceptualized here so freaking bad...originally posted by Catlyn


http://i.imgur.com/Pd1twlt.png

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Forgot about that. I would prefer the YoRHa-issue Blades to be the Ninja weapon instead of the Beastbane.

And here i'am hoping for the addition of a rythm boss in 3 weeks rewarding us with : full 9S cosplay, flight unit, weapon glamour and a Kaine body pillow.

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Originally Posted by Syln

a Kaine body pillow.

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Make it a weapon glam like in PSO2...

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Originally Posted by Moonsprite

There are weekly quests after you finish the raid. Hopefully, it will offer glamour rewards for the people who want them.

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There's nothing on the Lodestone database that would indicate this, but perhaps it is meant to continue until 5.55 or something.

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Originally Posted by Vahlnir

There's nothing on the Lodestone database that would indicate this, but perhaps it is meant to continue until 5.55 or something.

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Probably that's the case, since it's just about 1 month away anyways. And they had quests from the NieR series outside of their release patches before, so probably 5.55 will introduce more stuff to wrap the storyline.

I'm more upset that the hair can be sold on the MB. That just going to make ppl continue to roll for it even if they have already won it once. Rather have seen it be a quest reward or just not be able to be sold/limit it to one per character. It's already annoying having to roll against 24 ppl all the time and losing even tho I roll in the 90s about three times.

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Originally Posted by MrJPtheAssassin

I'm more upset that the hair can be sold on the MB. That just going to make ppl continue to roll for it even if they have already won it once. Rather have seen it be a quest reward or just not be able to be sold/limit it to one per character. It's already annoying having to roll against 24 ppl all the time and losing even tho I roll in the 90s about three times.

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On the plus side, that means the price will be down to next to nothing in a few short weeks.

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Originally Posted by Vahlnir

On the plus side, that means the price will be down to next to nothing in a few short weeks.

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Yeah it’s like 1.5 mil now with isn’t bad. I actually really like it because it allowed me to get it the 2B bob right away, and buy up one for my alt too. Yes I bought one for my viera.... just in case they change their mind. A girl can dream!

It also gives those of us with characters who can’t currently use it, and people who have no interest in them, use for them. $$$

Yeah, its not so bad since the hairstyles are guaranteed drops so prices will go down. It might go up some time in EW, but it will still be better than the hair that drops in Delubrium Reginae

Well as someone who is saving gil to move my large in EW to Ishgrad(I want out of the goblet badly) can't really afford to spend even a mil(its 2mil on my server so..) on a hairstyle. That reason why I really don't like it being able to be gotten more than once by ppl. I have to depend on rng and in a 24 man that means I have to roll a 99 to even get the damn thing. I didn't mind the ER hair being sold because it's personal loot so as long you continue to run DR over and over you bond to get it (I got two within 50 runs of DR) but with to 2b hair you always fighting 24 people to get it and there a chance you never get it if you always roll below a 99. I gotten three rolls in the 90s and still lost(a 92, a 94, and a 96).

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Originally Posted by MrJPtheAssassin

Well as someone who is saving gil to move my large in EW to Ishgrad(I want out of the goblet badly) can't really afford to spend even a mil(its 2mil on my server so..) on a hairstyle. That reason why I really don't like it being able to be gotten more than once by ppl. I have to depend on rng and in a 24 man that means I have to roll a 99 to even get the damn thing. I didn't mind the ER hair being sold because it's personal loot so as long you continue to run DR over and over you bond to get it (I got two within 50 runs of DR) but with to 2b hair you always fighting 24 people to get it and there a chance you never get it if you always roll below a 99. I gotten three rolls in the 90s and still lost(a 92, a 94, and a 96).

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It won’t take long before the hairstyle is way cheaper. It started at 5~6 mil on my server Day 1. Two days later it people were listing it for 1.5 mil. Haven’t been online in the last couple of days because I’ve been busy with work, but I’m sure within another week or two, it will be even cheaper.

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Originally Posted by HyoMinPark

It won’t take long before the hairstyle is way cheaper. It started at 5~6 mil on my server Day 1. Two days later it people were listing it for 1.5 mil. Haven’t been online in the last couple of days because I’ve been busy with work, but I’m sure within another week or two, it will be even cheaper.

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Yeah, the hairstyle on Sarg was about 10mil patch morning, but dropped to 4 in just a couple of hours.

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Originally Posted by Heather_Daynzierusly

The complaint is that there is an insane amount of possible rewards people had been asking for, yet they gave us what seems like the bare minimum. Hairstyles, I'm pretty sure like all the other unlockable hairstyles, don't work on Viera or Hrothgar, the 2B glam is equippable by males and females, but females don't get any outfits even close to what 9S wears. Males get the male set, and can wear 2B's outfit. We're just asking for equality, at the very least.

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THIIISSSSSSSSS

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Originally Posted by Heather_Daynzierusly

but females don't get any outfits even close to what 9S wears. Males get the male set, and can wear 2B's outfit. We're just asking for equality, at the very least.

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Originally Posted by MrJPtheAssassin

Well as someone who is saving gil to move my large in EW to Ishgrad(I want out of the goblet badly) can't really afford to spend even a mil(its 2mil on my server so..) on a hairstyle. That reason why I really don't like it being able to be gotten more than once by ppl. I have to depend on rng and in a 24 man that means I have to roll a 99 to even get the damn thing. I didn't mind the ER hair being sold because it's personal loot so as long you continue to run DR over and over you bond to get it (I got two within 50 runs of DR) but with to 2b hair you always fighting 24 people to get it and there a chance you never get it if you always roll below a 99. I gotten three rolls in the 90s and still lost(a 92, a 94, and a 96).

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The price will drop. The accessibility of the raid is extremely high basically only requiring a level 80 character not that well geared. Bozjan on the other hand is locked behind a ton of content along with a time sink + low drop rates.
Pretty soon this hair style will be cheaper than all the deep dungeon ones.

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Originally Posted by Heather_Daynzierusly

The complaint is that there is an insane amount of possible rewards people had been asking for, yet they gave us what seems like the bare minimum.

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The bare minimum would be giving the same rewards every other 24 man raid has. The Nier raids literally have more rewards than any other so far. Two minions instead of one on the first part, hairstyles which have never been a thing in the others, 2B coffee for pure glamour and tons of songs. Only thing there’s been less of is TT cards.

If there’s something you’re mad they didn’t put in just say that. Instead of pretending you’ve been short changed somehow.

also this is first 24 man with dyable raid gear
hopefully all are like that now instead of just a nier one off

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Originally Posted by MrPresident

The bare minimum would be giving the same rewards every other 24 man raid has. The Nier raids literally have more rewards than any other so far. Two minions instead of one on the first part, hairstyles which have never been a thing in the others, 2B coffee for pure glamour and tons of songs. Only thing there’s been less of is TT cards.

If there’s something you’re mad they didn’t put in just say that. Instead of pretending you’ve been short changed somehow.

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Yeah, I agree with this. Are there things I would have loved to see as rewards? Yes! Are there rewards that were included that I don't really care for? Absolutely! But they really did give a pretty hefty amount of rewards all throughout the series and there might even be something more yet (though I'm not getting my hopes up). It's okay to be disappointed that your thing of choice wasn't included, but it's not really true to say that we were something shafted here (well, except for Hroth and Viera for the headgear and hair they can't use, but that's another subject entirely).

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Originally Posted by Duskane

also this is first 24 man with dyable raid gear
hopefully all are like that now instead of just a nier one off

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Which is lovely because it means they won't just recycle it later but give us a dyeable version (like I think they have with all alliance raid gear other than Crystal Tower). They'll make more new gear designs.

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Originally Posted by Duskane

also this is first 24 man with dyable raid gear
hopefully all are like that now instead of just a nier one off

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The real takeaway and win for me with the whole nier series. I couldn't care less about any of the pieces that dropped from this whole series (except perhaps the caster/healer boots from bunker), but dyable alliance raid gear? Let's keep that ball rolling forward forever.

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Originally Posted by MrPresident

The bare minimum would be giving the same rewards every other 24 man raid has. The Nier raids literally have more rewards than any other so far. Two minions instead of one on the first part, hairstyles which have never been a thing in the others, 2B coffee for pure glamour and tons of songs. Only thing there’s been less of is TT cards.

If there’s something you’re mad they didn’t put in just say that. Instead of pretending you’ve been short changed somehow.

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Ivalice completion gave you Hair.
Nier has more minions but Nier gear was lacking sure it's dyeable but if we're talking cosplay sets Ivalice had multiple sets directly from Tactics/XII whilst Niers outfits were mostly the same or all across the board the same if your Tank or DRG getting meh Black Yorha inspired "OC do not steal" outfits whilst plenty of Automata Yorha unique outfits they could've chose from & with all the Replicant & Drakengard nods this raid they could've given us Gear from those instead of here's more Matrix, heck they have the Battle suites in the second raid they could've made it Tanks/DRGS outfit.

So many characters outfits we could've had from Commander to Brother Emil Kaine to Zero Caim.

Glam been the best part about this raid series
i found just about everything in ivalice raids very ugly besides the cute caster glasses in the first one
and it's clear others think so too since you don't see anyone wearing them

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Originally Posted by ItMe

Which is lovely because it means they won't just recycle it later but give us a dyeable version (like I think they have with all alliance raid gear other than Crystal Tower). They'll make more new gear designs.

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we still have some LoA,Sycrus,Weeping (dun scaith cool tanl helm)and all of ivalice set undyable so that will probably become endwalker leveling and first lot of crafted sets

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Originally Posted by Lord_Umbra

Ivalice completion gave you Hair.
Nier has more minions but Nier gear was lacking sure it's dyeable but if we're talking cosplay sets Ivalice had multiple sets directly from Tactics/XII whilst Niers outfits were mostly the same or all across the board the same if your Tank or DRG getting meh Black Yorha inspired "OC do not steal" outfits whilst plenty of Automata Yorha unique outfits they could've chose from & with all the Replicant & Drakengard nods this raid they could've given us Gear from those instead of here's more Matrix, heck they have the Battle suites in the second raid they could've made it Tanks/DRGS outfit.

So many characters outfits we could've had from Commander to Brother Emil Kaine to Zero Caim.

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Let's also not forget that NieR Replicant ver.1.22474487139 comes out a week AFTER the final Nier raid comes out, and Japan recently had their Nier ReIncarnation game out on mobile a few short months ago. So this would've been the perfect opportunity to put as many outfits of the Nier series (as a general whole) in the last raid, rather than fending/maim getting gobshite for gear that's just a worse off variety of the versions we got from the first two raids. Why didn't we get an Emile head?? Or a Kaine set? D:<

I think a lot of the gear was good, but the bunker sets all felt very samey to me and the fending/maiming sets in Tower would have been better served doing something else besides ANOTHER black yorha set. Or if it had to be yorha, go for like, the heavily armored outfit they have for a bit in Automata at the start of route C, to stand out more from the bunker sets.