Blue mage ' beast master ' dancer

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Originally Posted by Neela

not to mention the ascien-hunter who travels with Alphinaud could introduce the gunblader-cls later on... any thoughts about him?
if we already speculate which msq char comes with which job-cls.... so who's the dancer? ;p

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If the leak is correct, I'd wager Shadowhunter=Gunblade class, Alphinaud=Blue Mage to contrast Alisae, and an as of yet unrevealed character for Dancer, similar to Gosetsu with Samurai.

As long as he desnt have to give up his cute Moonstone Carbuncle I’m fine with him becoming Blue :o

I am also fairly certain that when we talk about shadowhunter that would not be a job but moreso pertains to a title of a group so the man with the Gunblade and his companions (one was a blm if i recall) they are all shadowhunters, just like the Scions were not a job but a group.
Just my idea of course.

Also i too lean more towards Alphineaud for Blu, but Dancer (if they finally give it to us) i have not yet speculated. Maybe Tataru? Just kidding :p

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Originally Posted by Maero

I am also fairly certain that when we talk about shadowhunter that would not be a job but moreso pertains to a title of a group so the man with the Gunblade and his companions (one was a blm if i recall) they are all shadowhunters, just like the Scions were not a job but a group.
Just my idea of course.

Also i too lean more towards Alphineaud for Blu, but Dancer (if they finally give it to us) i have not yet speculated. Maybe Tataru? Just kidding :p

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yeah, I was referring to the character "Shadowhunter"

If u look back at FF11 like i said u will see tht's the only why blue mage learn spells in FF11 unless thy decided to change it also i believe alphin not blu he going to keep tht class because he is very smart unlike his sister she is more a battle person thn him also to because blue mage u need to come close to death like fordola did

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Originally Posted by Seraphor

yeah, I was referring to the character "Shadowhunter"

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Oh i was not quoting anyone in particular, have just seen so many think that shadowhunter is an actual job when i think it pertains to a group

Lol going to say this so all u Blue mage tank ppl i keep seeing i already know its not going to be tank but going to say it anyway if thy try to make BLU a tank everyone going to try to make BLU a dps in tank role thn everyone going to be piss off because the tank not trying to hold hte thy want to dps on there favorite class look at most tanks now always saying u want to tank and if u say no because i'm building drk to be dps thy get piss everyone don't like tanking unless there warrior because it hit harder thn drk which need to be fix so HELLs No 3 tanks is all we need as for healers same thing because most ppl don't want to stand there watching u do damage and thy just heal it boring as hell just like tanking with no damage so tht should show why we don't need more tanks and healers so if thy make BLU a power house tank thy hve damage all hands go i'll tank but if not all hands down and i'm 85% sure alot of ppl in FF14 will agree because watching u guys doing damage and it feel like the burn is slow as hell thy will get piss and ask u to kick thm i know because i been in groups like tht on drk and pld on my main account which i hte i lost be w.e

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Originally Posted by Starcake28

Lol going to say this so all u Blue mage tank ppl i keep seeing i already know its not going to be tank but going to say it anyway if thy try to make BLU a tank everyone going to try to make BLU a dps in tank role thn everyone going to be piss off because the tank not trying to hold hte thy want to dps on there favorite class look at most tanks now always saying u want to tank and if u say no because i'm building drk to be dps thy get piss everyone don't like tanking unless there warrior because it hit harder thn drk which need to be fix so HELLs No 3 tanks is all we need as for healers same thing because most ppl don't want to stand there watching u do damage and thy just heal it boring as hell just like tanking with no damage so tht should show why we don't need more tanks and healers so if thy make BLU a power house tank thy hve damage all hands go i'll tank but if not all hands down and i'm 85% sure alot of ppl in FF14 will agree because watching u guys doing damage and it feel like the burn is slow as hell thy will get piss and ask u to kick thm i know because i been in groups like tht on drk and pld on my main account which i hte i lost be w.e

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You could say that about DRK too.
We should get another tank class, because otherwise those that enjoy tanking haven't had any new jobs for four years, and those who would tank but don't like the existing tanks would have another option.

I want to tank, but I'm not at all interested in PLD or WAR.
I've had to settle for DRK as the best option out of three, but personally find the 'edgelord' a bit to strong and the DA spam annoying.

If either BLU or the gunblade class was a tank, it'd be awesome and I'd finally have a tank class I'd enjoy.

Blue mage has never really been about damage, it's always been utility, with a mix of gimmicky healing, mitigation and debuffing, plus usually has pretty decent physical capability.
It wouldn't be out of place as a tank at all.

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Originally Posted by Seraphor

You could say that about DRK too.
We should get another tank class, because otherwise those that enjoy tanking haven't had any new jobs for four years, and those who would tank but don't like the existing tanks would have another option.

I want to tank, but I'm not at all interested in PLD or WAR.
I've had to settle for DRK as the best option out of three, but personally find the 'edgelord' a bit to strong and the DA spam annoying.

If either BLU or the gunblade class was a tank, it'd be awesome and I'd finally have a tank class I'd enjoy.

Blue mage has never really been about damage, it's always been utility, with a mix of gimmicky healing, mitigation and debuffing, plus usually has pretty decent physical capability.
It wouldn't be out of place as a tank at all.

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I concur, alas apparently, according to some datamining, a new DPS is in preparation and will be using caster equipment. That leaves BLU with a DPS role. But I'm fine with gunblader at tanking I guess ? Though I would have seen gunblader as a 3rd physical ranged that could go melee half the time (much more than RDM who was an utterly false promise for casters).

I don't know, I feel like you that BLU wouldn't be out of place as a tank either. I think I'll love it in any role he is given anyway.

BLU could still work as a melee range INT-based caster DPS, due to the nature of their transformation abilities. We'll see how much SE leans into giving nods to old skills though.

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Originally Posted by Grimoire-M

BLU could still work as a melee range INT-based caster DPS, due to the nature of their transformation abilities. We'll see how much SE leans into giving nods to old skills though.

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It definitely could, but I personally think it would be far too similar to red mage if it was.

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Originally Posted by Karshan

I concur, alas apparently, according to some datamining, a new DPS is in preparation and will be using caster equipment. That leaves BLU with a DPS role. But I'm fine with gunblader at tanking I guess ? Though I would have seen gunblader as a 3rd physical ranged that could go melee half the time (much more than RDM who was an utterly false promise for casters).

I don't know, I feel like you that BLU wouldn't be out of place as a tank either. I think I'll love it in any role he is given anyway.

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For real? Ugh i hope not we already have enough dps for the next few expansions. Do SE simply not listen at all to it's paying customers

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Originally Posted by Maero

For real? Ugh i hope not we already have enough dps for the next few expansions. Do SE simply not listen at all to it's paying customers

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1 tank,1 heal,1 dps really should just be the standard from now on
one for each role
nothing wrong with adding more DPS since there is obviously much more players(aka paying customers) of them and more are needed in parties
Just preferably add a tank and heal as well to please all (who want new classes)

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Originally Posted by Duskane

1 tank,1 heal,1 dps really should just be the standard from now on
one for each role
nothing wrong with adding more DPS since there is obviously much more players(aka paying customers) of them and more are needed in parties
Just preferably add a tank and heal as well to please all (who want new classes)

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Or at least alternate with expansions.
We got one of each with HW, two DPS with SB, 5.0 should be one of each again, with 6.0 should be two DPS again.
That would probably exhaust all possible options by then, so if they do get to 7.0, I've no idea what they could do.

Well it's not like SE would listen to the masses anyhow :/
Hell we may not even get a healer and/or tank and just dps again...
This was all just my opinion, not trying to argue.

We do not need a tank and a healer every expansion. I'd much rather see SE add one of either each expansion and a DPS alongside it, going to the role that needs it the most at that point (so not another Striking melee or caster).

Spacing them out would make it easier to balance them all against one another over time.

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Originally Posted by Seraphor

It definitely could, but I personally think it would be far too similar to red mage if it was.

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Blue as tank till no because blue mage wears light gear not heavy gear like drk pld war if i hve to look bk at all ff games there or 3 more classes tht could be a tank holy knight rune fencer beast master but thy not trying to make any more pet classes so idk

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Originally Posted by Maero

For real? Ugh i hope not we already have enough dps for the next few expansions. Do SE simply not listen at all to it's paying customers

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Final fantasy never add alot of tanks and healers look thm up

In FF5 you had to get hit by the move to learn Blue magic and the gear was more like plate armor with a super hero mask,
Not saying blue is a tank but its not out of the realm of possibility for it to be one.

Just like cecil being a Dark knight and Paladin led Dark Knight to becoming a tank in ff14 instead of a DPS like in ff11.

Id prefer a gunblade tank anyway but Blue would be alright

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Originally Posted by Maero

For real? Ugh i hope not we already have enough dps for the next few expansions. Do SE simply not listen at all to it's paying customers

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Also everyone on Final fantasy right now play dps more thn tanks and healers look around mainly because dps is more fun only ppl tht play healer is ppl tht hate pvping dps r pvpers so look for more dps added just saying because i'm a true Final fantasy player!!

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Originally Posted by Duskane

In FF5 you had to get hit by the move to learn Blue magic and the gear was more like plate armor with a super hero mask,
Not saying blue is a tank but its not out of the realm of possibility for it to be one.

Just like cecil being a Dark knight and Paladin led Dark Knight to becoming a tank in ff14 instead of a DPS like in ff11.

Id prefer a gunblade tank anyway but Blue would be alright

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Thy should keep it dps i'm telling u if thy take the most class tht everyone love on dps to tank thy going to hve a problem because tanking is boring ppl don't like tanking unless thy hve to its not the class ppl love to show damage out in pvp not just taking it plus tanking u get a lot of haters to because u don't want to stay in tank role so forget tanks also ppl love to burn faster to test there damage solo see how fast thy can solo things so far pld drk is bad vs war so i for one would be upset because i always play blu or make a blu also tht blu from ff5 look stupid ff11 was where blu really got alot of ppl eyes me and my friends and alot of other ppl i know as for the farming spells with others tht was super fun all the blues come together to get their spells also testing there damage to see who had higher damage was fun there was alot abt blu from ff11 tht ppl don't get why we want it like 11 even if tht cant give us weapon skills i'lll still play blue mage but tanking with low damage srry can't do it

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Originally Posted by Starcake28

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I like tanking i enjoy what all 3 have ,WAR is fun to dish out the damage and consistent self healing,PLD is great because of its utility and DRK is my favorite of the 3 aesthetically and conceptually,honestly if Dragoon was a tank i would never need another class (Holy dragoon when yoshi).
People love to push the limits of Healers and Tank DPS its a big reason why some play tanks/heal other then the concept of the job.
Stop projecting about "Healers only play heals because pvp dps need to be stopped" and "tank only tank because somone have to do it".

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Originally Posted by Starcake28

Also everyone on Final fantasy right now play dps more thn tanks and healers look around mainly because dps is more fun only ppl tht play healer is ppl tht hate pvping dps r pvpers so look for more dps added just saying because i'm a true Final fantasy player!!

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Well I don't think that is completely true. Tanking or healing can both be fun, having fun jobs is not limited to DPS, it's all down to each person's enjoyment of them. I enjoy healing and also pvp (sometimes) so I'm not sure how you connect that they don't go well together...

thats bullshit... although I main smn for savage, I play tank and heal out of savage even more than dds doesn't matter if pvp, eureka, or dngs. – u shouldn't talk for others, just for yourself - and if you try doing that maybe come up with some new insights? repeating your very first post for 3 pages now starts getting boring... and doesn't let u look serious at all.

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Originally Posted by Duskane

I like tanking i enjoy what all 3 have ,WAR is fun to dish out the damage and consistent self healing,PLD is great because of its utility and DRK is my favorite of the 3 aesthetically and conceptually,honestly if Dragoon was a tank i would never need another class (Holy dragoon when yoshi).
People love to push the limits of Healers and Tank DPS its a big reason why some play tanks/heal other then the concept of the job.
Stop projecting about "Healers only play heals because pvp dps need to be stopped" and "tank only tank because somone have to do it".

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Drk is trash why u think there revamping it lol u ppl never learn anything

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Originally Posted by Neela

thats bullshit... although I main smn for savage, I play tank and heal out of savage even more than dds doesn't matter if pvp, eureka, or dngs. – u shouldn't talk for others, just for yourself - and if you try doing that maybe come up with some new insights? repeating your very first post for 3 pages now starts getting boring... and doesn't let u look serious at all.

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It's not bs its true ppl don't like healer or tanks like dps i know this but u can believe wat u will

As for all dancer ppl srry to say geo getting added not dancer ; ;

Ok because you have insider knowledge right?
Yes Geo has been hinted alot in SB but A) We have Astro (it would be to similar) and B) Hardly any of the player base would actually want that job
Starting to think in your responses you are just posting to stir people up

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Originally Posted by Starcake28

It's not bs its true ppl don't like healer or tanks like dps i know this but u can believe wat u will

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Some people like it don't that's true, but what's also true is some people actually do like to tank or heal. Who are you to invalidate or deny what another person enjoys? You don't speak for every single player in this game, show some respect to how other players enjoy this game and not just some imaginary group of "everyone" that you seem to think represent/know everything because that is definitely not the case.

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Originally Posted by Maero

Ok because you have insider knowledge right?
Yes Geo has been hinted alot in SB but A) We have Astro (it would be to similar) and B) Hardly any of the player base would actually want that job
Starting to think in your responses you are just posting to stir people up

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No i'm not trying to do anything just looking at hints thy giving us also looking back to the past ff games u would be lucky to get anymore healers/tanks because looking back there wasn't alot of thm also dps always was top in of add on jobs

I would love a Beastmaster class more than anything. It doesn't even necessarily have to be pet-micromanagement like summoner is. FFXI did Beastmaster, right? How did they go about it?

Also, I think dancer just feels out of place. I don't know why, it seems like an amazing class...but what are you gonna do, samba someone's wounds?

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Originally Posted by Starcake28

No i'm not trying to do anything just looking at hints thy giving us also looking back to the past ff games u would be lucky to get anymore healers/tanks because looking back there wasn't alot of thm also dps always was top in of add on jobs

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There werent ANY healers or tanks besides White Mage, the roles were only necessary for the mmos.

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Originally Posted by Starcake28

Drk is trash why u think there revamping it lol u ppl never learn anything

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Just because a job isn't great doesn't mean i can't like it
Are you gonna drop blue if it's just as bad as SB rdm?
Such a "true" fan

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Originally Posted by Stormfur

I would love a Beastmaster class more than anything. It doesn't even necessarily have to be pet-micromanagement like summoner is. FFXI did Beastmaster, right? How did they go about it?

Also, I think dancer just feels out of place. I don't know why, it seems like an amazing class...but what are you gonna do, samba someone's wounds?

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in RO they did great job with dancer & bard job synergy’s - they did provide support combo skills or aoe buffs/debuffs working/aligning their skills - some of them even only worked if u had your counterpart job in your party. The system was great and made a lot of fun - it also opened up various strats in pvp or war of emporium (ROs Endgame).

I don’t think SE would go like that... but if they do it would be pretty cool :3

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Originally Posted by Stormfur

I would love a Beastmaster class more than anything. It doesn't even necessarily have to be pet-micromanagement like summoner is. FFXI did Beastmaster, right? How did they go about it?

Also, I think dancer just feels out of place. I don't know why, it seems like an amazing class...but what are you gonna do, samba someone's wounds?

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it had a stigma on it for a very very long time
since the pet split exp of the group as well (not like that anymore)

decent solo class