4.4 Trailer!

Can I EB Suzaku?

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Originally Posted by whiskeybravo

It doesn't seem far-fetched that it could simply be an "imaginary" version of Middy that Omega incarnated for the purpose of our "test". Didn't Middy also prevent Omega from nuking us earlier in the story line? From that, perhaps Omega was able to catch a glimpse of Middy's power and was able to use that to create the battle. It's hard to imagine we'd be fighting the real Middy, though I suppose there is also some rationale for Omega to think along the lines of "this being might be as strong as me so I'll make you take him down first" (to get him out of the way so he can't interrupt real fight against Omega)

IDK. I'm pretty psyched. More than I thought I would be!

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Omega has fought Midgardsormr before. In fact, Midgardsormr is currently the only thing to actually damage Omega, if I recall correctly. So Omega knows how strong Grandad Wyrm was in his Prime.
Omega likely made Midgardsormr a contender because this will most likely affect our characters in some shape or form (while it may just be data, we are technically going to kill a version of a dragon who has been with us since 2.5 and has saved us from being deleted).

I kinda wonder how Alphascape will end. I remember the Raid mentioning Omega only made villains because it didn't understand the source of a hero's power. Maybe Alpha was made to get that data by becoming the Warrior of Light's friend. I'm half-expecting him to die or become the O12 boss against his will.

I expect an Alpha Duty Action, at least.

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Originally Posted by Sheriyana

This stuff completely ruined the story of FFIV for me. Once or twice is fine but when it happens so often it just turns into a joke, and not a very funny one.

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Poor Tellah. He didn't get the memo that death was cheap.

Looks like a big focus on the Garlean characters ... love how the ending was done. Hnnnnnngh .. must finish SB MSQ!

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Originally Posted by whiskeybravo

It doesn't seem far-fetched that it could simply be an "imaginary" version of Middy that Omega incarnated for the purpose of our "test". Didn't Middy also prevent Omega from nuking us earlier in the story line? From that, perhaps Omega was able to catch a glimpse of Middy's power and was able to use that to create the battle. It's hard to imagine we'd be fighting the real Middy, though I suppose there is also some rationale for Omega to think along the lines of "this being might be as strong as me so I'll make you take him down first" (to get him out of the way so he can't interrupt real fight against Omega)

IDK. I'm pretty psyched. More than I thought I would be!

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Omega has fought Midgardsormr before, though. He'd know plenty about how powerful he was without that. Heck, he even talks to Middy about that earlier in Sigmascape.

Well, we have had a Turtle, Tiger, and now a firebird Auspice, which means the final auspice will most likely be the Azure dragon. I think it's pretty neat that they're following the Four Symbols theme :D

Seiryu is most definitely a dragon. They were also mentioned in the DRG questline for Stormblood as a well-known dragon from the East.

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Originally Posted by Berteaux_Braumegain

Seiryu is most definitely a dragon. They were also mentioned in the DRG questline for Stormblood as a well-known dragon from the East.

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Fair enough, (I don't play Drg) but of course an Azure Dragoon would be involved with the Azure Dragon :P
But by going with this theme, there could also be a yellow dragon.

I just finally got caught up all the way to 4.3 MSQ. I just thought about something that I wanted to share. During that surprise battle at the end of 4.3, you have the buff called 'Roleplaying'. Seriously. It's description sums up as going through an experience as another character. For the sake of spoilers, what if in 4.4, the devs start having us do some instances as members of this party? Maybe Shadowhunter himself? I don't believe for a moment that this buff was made solely for this one instance. Perhaps something with Y'shtola as well?

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Originally Posted by KaivaC

I just finally got caught up all the way to 4.3 MSQ. I just thought about something that I wanted to share. During that surprise battle at the end of 4.3, you have the buff called 'Roleplaying'. Seriously. It's description sums up as going through an experience as another character. For the sake of spoilers, what if in 4.4, the devs start having us do some instances as members of this party? Maybe Shadowhunter himself? I don't believe for a moment that this buff was made solely for this one instance. Perhaps something with Y'shtola as well?

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Yes, I agree and hope this can be a more regular occurrence in the future. It gives us more immersion and empathy with the NPC character while also making us feel like we are in control of our our decisions.

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Originally Posted by Ramesses

Yes, I agree and hope this can be a more regular occurrence in the future. It gives us more immersion and empathy with the NPC character while also making us feel like we are in control of our our decisions.

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Going into full blown theory-mode here, but with us going to the Burn, Y'shtola dealing with things in Doma, and Thancred in the western provinces...I can definitely see room for us doing instances as those characters. I was gonna say maybe our Echo has evolved enough for us to see things from their perspectives, which could explain the Echo filter in the CS...but out of the three of them, I think only Alphy, Alisaie and Lyse were present when we shielded them from tempering. WAs gonna say perhaps we gained the ability from shielding them

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Originally Posted by Ramesses

Yes, I agree and hope this can be a more regular occurrence in the future. It gives us more immersion and empathy with the NPC character while also making us feel like we are in control of our our decisions.

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Me too! I hope there's more "roleplaying" scenarios, there are so many characters I want to learn more about and see things from their perspective, especially the villains (including the former villains).
Perhaps it's something they can use in the future to make the Echo recaps more fun? Instead of having lengthy "this is what happened off-screen" cutscenes, experiencing the more important Echo visions interactively would make me feel more like I'm actually exploring someone's memories and not just watching a movie starring them.

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Originally Posted by NessaWyvern

Fair enough, (I don't play Drg) but of course an Azure Dragoon would be involved with the Azure Dragon :P
But by going with this theme, there could also be a yellow dragon.

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That would likely be Koryu.

And I just started the game... its a long grind before I get to stormblood.

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Originally Posted by NessaWyvern

Well, we have had a Turtle, Tiger, and now a firebird Auspice, which means the final auspice will most likely be the Azure dragon. I think it's pretty neat that they're following the Four Symbols theme :D

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I'm pretty certain they said this would be the finale of the 4 Lord's Storyline.

Which I think is dumb, we need Seiryu as you say here. So unless s/he (I want Seiryu a girl so it's 2 - 2 boy/girl Lords personally) is in a Duty instance, I don't know how they're really going to end this...

Unless they're planning a sequel storyline and they meant "this is the finale of this specific arc."

One can wish.

I don't recall them ever saying this would be the finale. Resolving the matters of Suzaku, Seiryu, and Kouryuu all in a single patch would be a bit much.

I feel like it's almost a given we'll have to deal with the latter of the three in some capacity, too, though perhaps not necessarily in a trial.

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Originally Posted by Xion136

I'm pretty certain they said this would be the finale of the 4 Lord's Storyline.

Which I think is dumb, we need Seiryu as you say here. So unless s/he (I want Seiryu a girl so it's 2 - 2 boy/girl Lords personally) is in a Duty instance, I don't know how they're really going to end this...

Unless they're planning a sequel storyline and they meant "this is the finale of this specific arc."

One can wish.

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I kinda doubt the story of The Four Lords is going to end before the fourth lord shows up. Especially when we have at least one more patch for Stormblood to conclude the Ivalice Raid.

I too would not want Alphineaud to die, kind of funny how so many hated the guy and now people are saying i hope he don't die, lol
We have had characters in the past that have had perma death like a certain knight and member of the scions :(

I honestly had been taking time off from FFXIV as have been bored with SB but this trailer looks great

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Originally Posted by Maero

I too would not want Alphineaud to die, kind of funny how so many hated the guy and now people are saying i hope he don't die, lol

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Death is usually just a cheap way to introduce drama when a more demanding method of doing so doesn't come to mind or is beyond the writers abilities. It's still something with "impact" since normally it is not possible to fix, hence it is a perpetual drama. Hence drama fans love it, while all the rest hates it.

Alphinaud is still a rather irritating character. On one side he's supposed to be very intelligent and eloquent, but at the same time, more often than not, he's doing absolutely idiotic things. His crystal braves are the biggest fail of his life and were a blatant problem, where he seemingly dismissed issues that did pop up from the very inception. Then there's the katana he bought with Scions money without even trying to haggle...even though Warrior of Light offered to buy it...He did it to prevent the hassle for the Warrior deeming it a Scions matter, only to depend on the player for a way more troublesome thing to get that money back...To begin with, how stupid one would need to be to even buy something without first asking for a price! The salesman could ninja-raise the price thinking he's rich after that declaration...

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Originally Posted by KaivaC

I gotta give props to the leaker, they called it. Some redditors are throwing up the theory that our WoLs are involved in the final boss fight somehow. I don't think it's coming from the leaker, but that would be interesting that we fight ourselves or something similar. Guess we'll have to wait and see what exactly that final fight entails.

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really omega is only the 3rd boss, who's the final boss then?

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Originally Posted by Listrella

really omega is only the 3rd boss, who's the final boss then?

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Supposedly an original FFXIV boss. "Supposedly". Not really a lot of information popping up, but 'Adam and Eve' as the final boss fight (s) are here and there. Just have to see what it entails.

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Originally Posted by Listrella

really omega is only the 3rd boss, who's the final boss then?

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Since Omega is obsessed with how heroes prevail over everything, it could be literally a copy of our characters, like that one fight in FFXI.

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Originally Posted by RyuDragnier

Since Omega is obsessed with how heroes prevail over everything, it could be literally a copy of our characters, like that one fight in FFXI.

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Hayk Farsight Prime. Please look forward to it.

Not A&E from Nier:Automata? Crossover confirmed? xD

One thing I noticed during the trailer; that smug lalafell in the eureka storyline seems to summon zantetsuken. Was he the thief from Odin story all along, or is it just some look-alike?

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Originally Posted by RyuDragnier

Since Omega is obsessed with how heroes prevail over everything, it could be literally a copy of our characters, like that one fight in FFXI.

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Or a culmination of the data Omega has been taking on us.

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Originally Posted by ApprenticeSmithy

One thing I noticed during the trailer; that smug lalafell in the eureka storyline seems to summon zantetsuken. Was he the thief from Odin story all along, or is it just some look-alike?

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I doubt it, since that would imply he was already tempered, which I doubt would slip past anyone.

"Eureka" may be an eikon of a nature similar to Odin in that its true form is that of a weapon that requires a wielder for it to exert much influence on the world around it, though. I'm really curious as to who/what brought it into being when all it seems to speak of is fulfilling one's desires for power, be it through means physical or magical.

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Originally Posted by Berteaux_Braumegain

Or a culmination of the data Omega has been taking on us.

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And then, suddenly, we end up fighting Nemesis from FFX.

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Originally Posted by Rhus

Not A&E from Nier:Automata? Crossover confirmed? xD

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Highly doubtful. The name probably alludes to the act of the "creation of man and woman" rather than a literal nod to a prior occurrence of the characters in another medium.

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Originally Posted by Berteaux_Braumegain

Or a culmination of the data Omega has been taking on us.

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Right now I see it going one of two ways:

Either A) Omega is impressed the incredible potential of "hoomans" and uses all the data its acquired to evolve/create the ultimate humanoid forms...

or B) Omega is disgusted by the continued success of the inferior "hoomans" and to absolutely prove its point decides to beat us at our own game by taking on a form similar to our own... (a la Anti-Spirals in Gurren Lagann).

The human reaper from Mass Effect 2?